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Agree CRISSA is for automatons! Probation over assesses and over records but massively under delivers meaningful work with offenders. I genuinely believe that Probation has no identity now and bends to the will of others like a tree in the wind. The offenders know this and don't trust Probation any more than they trust any other professionals. Sigh. It was not always like this. Sigh
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A quick google bought up this shite. I feel sorry for the offenders having to go through this scripted conveyor belt every week and for the POs that buy in to this drivel then type it all up.
“During the session, we will also talk about the offence and explore deeper into why it happened and how we can help them to not be in a situation again. The session framework that I, and most other officers use is the CRISSA model. In English this means, Check in, Review, Implement/ intervention, Summarise, Set tasks, appointments.
This basically means, I check in with them, see if any circumstances have changed since the last session, and go through their general engagement with the order. I review the previous session and any learning, and tasks set from the last time. We sit down and implement and come up with interventions that focus on a criminogenic need, linked to the sentence plan, for example thinking skills and attitudes. We then summarise the session we have had, set tasks if necessary that will be reviewed in the next session and finally set an appointment for the next session, whether is either weekly, fortnightly or monthly.”
“During the session, we will also talk about the offence and explore deeper into why it happened and how we can help them to not be in a situation again. The session framework that I, and most other officers use is the CRISSA model. In English this means, Check in, Review, Implement/ intervention, Summarise, Set tasks, appointments.
This basically means, I check in with them, see if any circumstances have changed since the last session, and go through their general engagement with the order. I review the previous session and any learning, and tasks set from the last time. We sit down and implement and come up with interventions that focus on a criminogenic need, linked to the sentence plan, for example thinking skills and attitudes. We then summarise the session we have had, set tasks if necessary that will be reviewed in the next session and finally set an appointment for the next session, whether is either weekly, fortnightly or monthly.”
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Absolutely agree. HMIP have indicated for years now that our work with offenders in supervision sessions is piss poor, but they stop short at exploring why. The organisation has focussed so much on case recording and completing OASYS under impossibly exacting QA standards, that it has forgotten who we are working for. Think back to the last time you had training on skills associated with meaningful engagement and delivery of supervision sessions, versus training in risk and OASYS completion.
The organisation has lost its way and reinforces matters by bringing in recording initiatives like CRISSA, officer diary, risk registers, constant pressure to update OASYS, constant pressure to complete this against standards which talk about meticulous completion of evidence boxes, assessor comments....and then the senior leaders scratch their heads and say "we just can't understand why employees say we don't listen, we offer a TEAMS meeting once a month, we don't get it??"
Absolutely agree. HMIP have indicated for years now that our work with offenders in supervision sessions is piss poor, but they stop short at exploring why. The organisation has focussed so much on case recording and completing OASYS under impossibly exacting QA standards, that it has forgotten who we are working for. Think back to the last time you had training on skills associated with meaningful engagement and delivery of supervision sessions, versus training in risk and OASYS completion.
The organisation has lost its way and reinforces matters by bringing in recording initiatives like CRISSA, officer diary, risk registers, constant pressure to update OASYS, constant pressure to complete this against standards which talk about meticulous completion of evidence boxes, assessor comments....and then the senior leaders scratch their heads and say "we just can't understand why employees say we don't listen, we offer a TEAMS meeting once a month, we don't get it??"
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"come up with interventions that focus on a criminogenic need, linked to the sentence plan, for example thinking skills and attitudes." Linked to a sentence plan from an OASys system built on the premise that the client needs to be "fixed", it demeans both the professional and the client. Both of us insulted in a stroke.
"come up with interventions that focus on a criminogenic need, linked to the sentence plan, for example thinking skills and attitudes." Linked to a sentence plan from an OASys system built on the premise that the client needs to be "fixed", it demeans both the professional and the client. Both of us insulted in a stroke.
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I do love how corporate bullshit tells us how we need to more reflect the community we serve. Well if that really were the case, the service would employ 95% men!! Which is clearly ridiculous and not required!! What is required is to start thinking about why we are unsuccessful at working with about 50% of our users, and I'm suggested tailoring services around what men actually need is one of many ways to achieve this...or we simply be more honest as a service that we are here to punish and enforce and that is our end goal.
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Probation is unsuccessful because it doesn’t reflect the community we serve. This doesn’t just mean more male POs, but more difference across all probation jobs;
More men
More Black, Asian and ethnic people, especially men..
More working class people who didn’t go to university.
More people with criminal records.
More people that have overcome addictions.
More people that have migrated from other countries.
More people that have lived life.
Probation is unsuccessful because it doesn’t reflect the community we serve. This doesn’t just mean more male POs, but more difference across all probation jobs;
More men
More Black, Asian and ethnic people, especially men..
More working class people who didn’t go to university.
More people with criminal records.
More people that have overcome addictions.
More people that have migrated from other countries.
More people that have lived life.
Oh how we love those 'excellent leaders', those exemplars who mirror the values of... who or what exactly?
ReplyDeleteI'd suggest they are the narrow 'values' of the white middle class, of career senior civil servants & academics who always know best, of the well-educated socially astute & the ruthlessly ambitious.
They are not inclusive or indicative of the values of the communities in which probation operates.
The following happened almost thirty years ago. It changed how I worked overnight - had more impact than any lecture or worksheet or team meeting or training day. Those in control & command of HMPPS or NPS or the CRCs can't even begin to understand what it means otherwise they wouldn't be the lying, duplicitous, bullying target-driven arseholes they clearly are:
"I can talk to you in your office, miss, but I can't be like that out there. They'd crucify me. You don't get that do you? You mean well, but you haven't a clue what its like out there. I like and understand the things you say and I want to change, I want it to be different, but I can't do it out there. Its nice in here talking to you and all that, but as soon as I leave this room I have to survive. I won't survive talking and thinking like you do, like you want me to. You need to understand that or you'll be forever disappointed with everyone you see in this job. And I don't know if you'll ever understand. I hope you do, because then you'll be a really good officer."
Anon 08:21 That anecdote will resonate with many, many officers with a certain degree of experience under their belt. I honestly feel the time is right to reflect on the journey many of us have been on once again, not just for nostalgia's sake, but because it just might cause newer recruits to ponder as to why they are so unhappy with the current situation. Dare I suggest there are lessons that could be learned, not least by engaging with 'old-skool' colleagues both current and retired. Wouldn't it be great to have a forum/conference/mentoring opportunity and see what comes out of it?
DeleteFinally, it very much reminds me of 'Tailgunner Parkinson' in the 70's who very nearly got the sack for his very public admission about measuring success by getting a bank robber to swap that activity for a bit of benefit fraud instead. If you're not aware, Google it - it's another fascinating insight into our journey.
I am retired let's not go back to an oldies club some the worst views stem from many of these. I did the same if they are swap crime for a lesser tariff activity that's progress. Colleagues a bit slow to appreciate up the command line.
DeleteThe 'good old days" discuss
ReplyDelete08:21 well said. Agree completely. It’s a shame that the probation service is no longer what it used to be like. Every single thing it’s about targets completions and fast output. It’s all about just getting the job done and moving on to the next client.
ReplyDelete07:26 It’s more worse than rot, It’s gone beyond any chance of repair. The disconnect with social work values has resulted in a systematic Breakdown of identity. No one seems to know what probation actually stands for.
ReplyDeleteIdentity is a huge problem for probation. Its came about not just because of the changes imposed from the ivory towers of Westminster, but also because of the different mindsets of the people being attracted to the probation service as a consequence of the changes imposed from above. I think it also presents a very confused and convoluted picture when it comes to public perception.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, where once probation was about change and rehabilitation, a platform for the first stage of a 'different' life, it's now become the arse end of a prison sentence concerned more with process rather then progression.
Being subject to modern day probation services is really not very different to being on bail in my opinion. Released from court custody with bail restrictions imposed and an obligation to sign on at the police station once a week. Break those restrictions or fail to report and you're likely to find yourself back in custody. The only real difference is one of expectation. No one really expects any help or support from the courts or police whilst on bail, but there is an expectation that help and support will be available from probation services when being released from a prison sentence. I think that expectation exists not just from the offender, but also from the general public.
I think at the heart of it all is the concept of rehabilitation. What is it? How is it achieved? The notion of rehabilitation to my mind has become very skewed in today's world. Some think it's something that can imposed. Some think that by changing someone's situation constitutes rehabilitation. I'd argue that finding someone accommodation and employment on release from custody just equates to a housed and working offender, it dosen't really change the person, although it's expected that person, housed and working will now behave in a fashion expected from all people in working households.
Housing and employment are essential, but they only provide a platform for change, prerequisites for rehabilitation.
Enforced compliance is now become the norm, 'neorehabilitation', and I think as long as probation continues along its current path, it continues to be part of the problem rather then part of the solution.
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There's some pretty good observations to be found in this paper if you click on the pdf for the whole article.
DeleteI think some of it is pretty relevent to today's discussion.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09585180210150069?journalCode=rjfp19
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Some people in the organisations are already all these things. They are held back written off as a quota fill. The majority same old same just need to get through by abusing the rest of us. Take visor none of those who have any record are getting on anytime soon.
ReplyDeleteI think the CRISS model is excellent - the thing I hated was scruffy unfomraed notes in Delius - at least there is standardisation which is an excelent thing. Wish things can be done with email too. This is the way we work now and its make us more efficient and effective. Those scruffy notes really got on my nerves. Glad we are becoming more systemaised. We need this. You will thank HMPPS later. Thanks for reading.
ReplyDeleteThe fear is that we may be moving towards trained rather than properly
Deleteeducated practitioners; technicians, encouraged to do as they are told,
rather than professionals who might think independently, question
orthodoxy and produce creative and inspired work, which adapts to
new challenges in a changing society.
(Bhui, 2001
“Glad we are becoming more systemaised”
DeleteAnd that is the problem. Systemised, automated robots, as opposed to thoughtful, committed, innovative practitioners.
The arrogance of the old school is unbelievable yet, sadly believable.
DeleteThing is the old school have lived through both worlds, old and new.
DeleteThe new breed have only lived in the new school era. You're not qualified to be a critic of something you have never been part of. To think you can is not arrogance, it's ignorance.
Free think PO structures historically just discriminated and made a mess so automation brings uniformity. It should be open to all staff but they have to pretend the PO structure is the only ones who can follow the boring recipe.
Delete@17:54 excellent response but how to change things...
DeleteI know people will be complaining but the world is changing place with Cov-19 etc - we should be grateful to have a job. I have also recent private sector experience and you sweat in the job. Probation has a great identity. People need to look at countries where there are no opportunities. We live in paradise by comparision here. Service user/offender/stand get up and take action to change your life. You are stopping yourself and can't blame the government - you are the boss there is no excuse. Go on an achieve and excel. End
ReplyDeleteProbation has a great identity ... in other countries. Probation in England and Wales has become the laughing stock of the probation world due to government meddling.
DeleteThe point is that probation used to help Service user/offender to get up and take action to change their lives. This tick box, command and control, target culture does not allow this.
The fact people have come here to support the current mess probation is in is reflect of the current regressive recruitment and culture of probation.
08:21. There is a skill to wading through the bs. I work in a busy London office, right in the heart of it all. We are encouraged and supported to think, be innovative, use judgement and flexibility. Service users are treated right and we get the job done. I’ve worked in a few offices, but this one is different, not perfect but in the much better category. We follow the guidelines, but our approach is certainly old school. We’ve a couple of good POs both young and old, the SPO is very different to the norm and knows the job. It’s nice to work where we’re actually told to be more on the side of what works and what’s right, as opposed to a blinkered cult following of what the bosses say. I could give examples but the cat’d be out the bag. There’s a lot said in meetings and one-on-one that couldn’t be said elsewhere. I think if the SPO challenges the managers / senior managers one more time it’ll be the end. As a result, everyone gets on, everyone’s trying to do their best, even with the pandemic. I don’t care about targets, but we are one of the best performing offices, which shows there is a balance that can be achieved with good managers. I know this SPO isn’t popular amongst the civil service groupies, which is unfair because I see so many recognised for far less. The problem with probation is that most of the other managers just repeat the senior management message and do what’s convenient for them, which doesn’t mean much when you’re up to the eyeballs in Oasys, Delius and recalls. If directors cared they’d have forums to hear this, not just the routine scripted people surgery to pretend they’re listening.
ReplyDeleteOn the downside this manager does seem to like CRISSA !!!
DeleteReally interesting and insightful post. Thanks
ReplyDeleteWancock keeps us all waiting as his testing capacity figures fail to appear (much like that bloated platinum whale supposed to be announcing yet another embarassing u-turn on our telly hours ago)
ReplyDeletePlease note: In line with our standard reporting procedure, capacity figures for Friday, Saturday and Sunday will be updated on the dashboard on Monday.
One Million cases arrived at via pcr tests in the UK
And now the liars have finally entered telly-land...
FranK.
09:05 "The 'good old days': discuss"
ReplyDeleteOkay.
I do worry that I am just a tired old codger who cant keep up with the tech, or the change, and harps on nostagically about halcyon years. But if I go back to the 80's, when I started, old experienced staff were a) held in esteem b) given a bit of slack c)harped on nostalgically about the halcyon years. It felt healthy and balanced and in my team the old codgers reigned in the overconfident youth and the youth elbowed the old codgers into a better frame of mind and an acceptance of change. That is not what is happening now. The old codgers, are being worked beyond all reasonable expectation under huge caseloads. They (we) are regarded by our leaders simultaneously as an inconvenience and a resource. Given that the Service has no longer any anchor in a well articulated set of values and culture, to hark back to our roots makes sense.
"They (we) are regarded by our leaders simultaneously as an inconvenience and a resource."
DeleteYou were lucky!
I/we weren't even given that chance. I/we were regarded as superfluous, expensive & expendable. In a scene worthy of an Armando Iannucci film based around the Stalin years I/we were chucked into a skip along with the old paper files, the historical ledgers from the assizes courts and anything that ensured the removal of all traces of times past.
Yes. That's why it's so lonely as an old Codger in NPS. And whenwe reunify-ish there will be empty chairs where experienced colleagues should be. Lucky to still be in work. Even if the work is dispiriting. It was so arbitrary, where the axe fell.
DeleteThe old and the new! It's a couple of years old, but an interesting article from someone who went bact to probation after a 30year break.
Deletehttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2016/may/03/probation-officer-30-years-ex-offender-bureaucratic-system
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Interesting insights all thanks good to read
ReplyDelete"Something's got to change"... But nothing *will* change in respect of anything unless there's a profit in it for the Chumocracy, regardless of the science or the evidence or the need or the consequences. The lives of the proles matter little to these fuckers:
ReplyDeleteInquest - deaths in custody (police+prisons+detention centres)
2015 - 295
2016 - 405
2017 - 353
2018 - 371
2019 - 342
2020 - 250 (to date; excludes detention centre data)
Total: 2,016 people have died in custody in the UK since the commission of the report referred to below:
"The author of a high-profile report into deaths in custody says she is disappointed its demands for reform of the police, justice system and health service appear to have been “kicked into the long grass”.
Speaking three years after the launch of her report, Dame Elish Angiolini QC said key recommendations had simply not been acted upon.
The report, commissioned by Theresa May in 2015 while she was home secretary, contains 110 recommendations for improving the way police and health authorities in England and Wales deal with vulnerable people, including how the police watchdog investigates their deaths."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/01/report-into-deaths-in-custody-in-england-and-wales-kicked-into-long-grass
Meanwhile, a pestilence sweeps the nation:
21 Sept 2020 - govt data shows total deaths (using their 28 day rule) = 41,880
13 Oct 2020 - Covid: Jenrick defends decision to ignore Sage's lockdown advice. UK communities secretary says government still being led by science on coronavirus restrictions
14 Oct 2020 - Boris Johnson says no to a UK-wide coronavirus lockdown despite calls for one from Sir Keir Starmer and scientific advisers: "The whole point is to seize this moment now to avoid the misery of another national lockdown"
31 Oct 2020 - govt data shows total deaths (using their 28 day rule) = 46,555
So 4,675 deaths later...
1 Nov 2020 - Gove says the original projections about the spread of the virus underestimated it. The “malignancy” of the virus is to blame, he says, NOT the government. Gove says national lockdown could be extended.
I'd suggest the malignancy of the government is EXACTLY where the problem lies.
And I'm starting to have doubts about Keir Stalin.
FranK.
It's been noted on here that there's never much representation of probation officers on TV, except perhaps on news reports when things go wrong.
ReplyDeleteWith that in mind, I noticed the following paper roaming around the net during another sleep deprived night.
It might provide an interesting read for some when they've finished with their Sunday papers?
https://www.mmuperu.co.uk/assets/uploads/bjcj_files/BJCJ-10-2_-_Nellis-FULL.pdf
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Abstract
DeleteThis paper offers an overview of representations of the British probation service in three fictional media over a sixty year period, up to the present time. While there were never as many, and they were never as renowned as representations of police, lawyers and
doctors, there are arguably more than has generally been realised. Broadly speaking - although there have always been individual exceptions to general trends - there has been a shift from supportive and optimistic representations to cynical and disillusioned ones, in
which the viability of showing care and compassion to offenders is questioned or mocked.
This mirrors wider political attempts to change the traditionally welfare-oriented culture of the service to something more punitive. The somewhat random and intermittent production of probation novels, films and television series over the period in questions has
had no discernible cumulative impact on public understanding of probation, and it is suggested that the relative absence of iconic media portrayals of its officers, comparable to those achieved in police, legal and medical fiction, has made it more difficult to sustain credible debates about rehabilitation in popular culture.
Like FranK, I too have my doubts about Keir Starmer but having said that, I do think Jeremy Corbin played straight into his hands .
ReplyDeleteMy old dad was staunch and argued that the party was a broad church and so it was as long as you didn’t want to change anything.
Those of us who have studied the Labour Party won’t be surprised that it lurches to the right under any new leader, the experience of Kinnock and Blair proves that they are more concerned with winning elections than with challenging the establishment.
Corbyn was undermined from the outset by Kinnock. jnr, and Eagle who set the tone for his leadership.
Blair had a 96 seat majority yet didn’t repeal anti trades union laws.
Kinnock expelled socialists from the party in order to appeal to the ruling classes.
The Labour Party has a long history of betraying its voters and supporters yet these are the very people who will once again flock to support the party and be the foot soldiers and contributors who pay to oil the machine that is then used to turn on them amidst calls for unity.
Some wise old owl said the Labour Party is like an aeroplane, it needs a left wing and a right wing to fly but the reality is that the wings need to be travelling in the same direction, otherwise they pull the machine apart.
That just about reflects the probation service issues.
DeleteOh deary deary dear, Boris:
ReplyDeleteScottish deputy first minister, John Swinney, said that the UK government had disregarded the issues faced in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland when the devolved nations asked for a similar extension several weeks ago.
"Are they [furlough & other payments] only going to be available when England’s got a problem?"
Mr Swinney makes a fair point. And then we need to ask:
Are the recent additional payments made to some council areas to cover Tier 3 to be clawed back now there's a national lockdown & resumption of some kind of national furlough structure, etc?
Its an utterly shambolic government in total meltdown.
I hope Andy Burnham, Steve Rotherham et al have already spent those cash settlements wisely - without cause for complaint or allegation - preferably on ensuring their residents' well-being.
Delete"Increased furlough payments for the national Covid lockdown shows the government "believes the North is worth less than the South", Liverpool's metro mayor has claimed.
DeleteThe Liverpool City Region mayor added: "This morning millions of people woke up knowing the prime minister of this country believes the North is worth less than the South."
Boris Johnson announced workers would receive 80% of their wages if businesses close during a four-week lockdown in England from Thursday.
Only 67% of pay was offered during tier three closures in the north of England."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54769232
If you can stomach it, uk-spin-me-round-round-baby govt data for covid-19; caveat = weekend data.
ReplyDeletenew cases per pcr testing: 23,254
no. of pcr tests undertaken or available is unknown because they won't say until Monday
deaths (per 28 day guidelines): 162
lockdown: probably 6 weeks too late, much like last time
test/trace/isolate: still pretty much useless. Last known data suggested it was 59% effective
uk citizens taking covid-19 seriously: not as many as there ought to be, but not at all surprising when we have a dishonest, disorganised, disreputable pack of useless wankers ruining the country
The media friendly Devi Sridhar put forward some excellent points on BBC news channel yesterday, including the bleedin' obvious fact that of course people won't co-operate with test & isolate when there's no protection meaning their livelihoods & homes are at risk. She suggested that the £12bn wasted on the crap test/trace/isolate system would have been better spent on financial incentives, i.e. isolating for two weeks effectively becomes a full-time paid 'job' for the relevant period.
Benefits?
1. testing is not something to resist because isolating will not mean you lose your house, your job, or starve.
2. testing is complied with
3. tracing is effective because no-one is avoidant
4. the whole test/trace/isolate procedure works
5. the spread of the virus can be effectively traced, isolated & better managed
Parallels to probation world? Let a pack of ambitious arrogant arsewipes with a strong personal & ideological agenda run your organisation, while those who are informed, experienced & truly knowledgeable become disenfranchised, disrespected & discarded.
Watch as they blame anyone & everyone but themselves for the shitstorm they create while ensuring they have gilt-edged lifejackets and guaranteed seats in the lifeboat, shrugging their guilt-free shoulders as they stare, puzzled, at the drowning masses and stamp on the fingers of those desperate souls who try to survive.
FranK.
Over the water...
Delete"The White House on Sunday issued a scorching rebuke of Dr. Anthony Fauci, the US government's foremost disease expert, accusing him of "play[ing] politics" in a recent interview about the ongoing dangers of the coronavirus... Trump has repeatedly insisted that the US is "rounding the corner" with coronavirus, downplaying surges and attacking local governments' efforts to curtail the spread. He has even suggested that it should be illegal for the media to aggressively cover the virus so close to the Nov. 3 election, and that "on Nov. 4 you won't hear about it anymore."... In contrast, Fauci said White House chief of staff Mark Meadows deserved some credit for bluntly admitting last Sunday that his administration was not seeking to "control" the pandemic's spread. Meadows said the US would focus on controlling the development of vaccines and therapeutics as mitigation efforts."
Meantime Trump continues in his role as superspreader & firm friend to the virus.
FranK.
So Wancock has placed an order for 20 million quick tests with InnovaTried&Tested. The manufacturer's website says:
ReplyDeleteINNOVA SARS-CoV-2 Antigen Rapid Qualitative Test
MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION - £413,325.00 every month for 25,000 tests
Scaled up to 20m tests this equates to a monthly subscription of £331m
But they're not even the right sort of test to fuylfiul the promise made by the Clown Prince, i.e. “tests that you can use yourself to tell whether or not you are infectious and get the result within 10 to 15 minutes”.
"These are rapid lateral flow tests. They generate accurate results, usually within 15 minutes. This Antigen test has 100% specificity, 98.98% overall accuracy.
* Works with nose or throat swab, sputum, or saliva collection by cheek scrape or spitting into a cup
* No machine or lab required to process the test.
* No cold storage required. Store between 2 and 30 degrees Centigrade.
* Please read and comply with the instructions for use (IFU)
* CE certified and MHRA registered
* We recommend test be conducted only by those medically qualified to do so, using the same PPE worn when conducting a PCR test.
* Dispose of used test components according to the IFU.
FranK.
Here's Devi Sridhar again, this time in the Guardian:
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"It’s time to stop fighting each other over how serious Covid-19 is, or whether PCR tests work, and agree on collective goals that everyone wants: to protect health services for all patients, a strong economic recovery, to ensure schools stay open, and to minimise illness and mortality. Rather than focusing on the endless repetition of dead cats, such as whether Christmas is cancelled, we should fix our attention on solutions.
The best option, for the health of people and that of the economy, is to pursue a “maximum suppression” approach, which means pushing numbers low enough to avoid a repeated cycle of lockdowns. Crucially, this doesn’t mean an actual lockdown, but a strategy similar to that seen in east Asian and Pacific countries: stronger border measures to prevent reimportation of the virus, good guidance to the public about how to avoid crowded settings and, most importantly, a robust system of testing, tracing and isolating. This would include financial support, generously paying those who test positive with the virus to stay at home.
The UK was in a good position to pursue this in late June, given low prevalence, but failed to form a strategy to maintain low numbers and protect against reinfections."
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/30094
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