Saturday, 9 May 2020

Time To Mention the War

We're all coping with the covid crisis and lockdown in different ways and mindful of the approach of VE 75 yesterday, I've been reading 'Friendly Fire - The secret war between the allies' published 2005. I'm only part way through, but as always it's astonishing to discover how little you really know about this conflict and how 75 years on it still very much underpins today's politics both domestic and international.  

I'm mentioning this because I was fascinated to see the spark of a lively debate on here yesterday regarding probation's roots in social work, it's place on the political left/right spectrum and the accusation of revisionism. And in a strange twist, a passing reference to this from the New York Times:-   

Putin Uses WW2 Anniversary for Bridge-Building With U.S., Britain

Russian President Vladimir Putin sent telegrams on Friday to U.S. President Donald Trump and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, suggesting the need to rekindle their nations' cooperation during World War Two to solve today's problems.


Putin's overture was the latest in a series of contacts with Washington, and Moscow is keen to rebuild relations frayed over issues ranging from election hacking allegations to Syria and Ukraine. Putin and Trump say they worked closely together to clinch a global oil production cut and spoke by phone on Thursday, when Trump offered to supply Russia with medical equipment to help fight the new coronavirus.

The Kremlin said on Friday that Johnson and Putin had also spoken by phone, congratulating each other on the 75th anniversary of the allied victory in World War Two and expressing a readiness for dialogue and cooperation on bilateral issues. Ties with London remain badly strained over the poisoning of a former Russian spy and his daughter in England. "Both sides expressed readiness to establish dialogue and cooperation on issues on the agenda of Russian-British relations, as well as in solving pressing international problems," the Kremlin said.

The telegrams were among many that Putin dispatched to the Soviet Union's World War Two allies on the anniversary of the end of the conflict in Europe. Russia, which marks the unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany on May 9, the day after "Victory in Europe" Day, has been forced to scale back commemorations due to the coronavirus.

In his message to Trump, Putin said Russia and the United States stood at the forefront of confronting global challenges. "Our countries could do a lot to ensure international security and stability," he said. 
Putin's message came a day after U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo spoke to his Ukrainian counterpart in a phone call which suggested Washington and Moscow remain far apart on some issues.

A statement from the U.S. State Department about the call said Pompeo had condemned "Russia's intransigence and continued aggressive behaviour" and had spoken of continuing to impose costs on Russia, including sanctions. Specifically, Washington wants Russia to hand Crimea, a region it annexed in 2014, back to Ukraine, and to fulfil the terms of a peace deal covering eastern Ukraine which is controlled by pro-Russian separatists. Moscow says Crimea is not up for discussion and that it is Ukraine which is not implementing the peace deal that covers the east of the country.

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It reminded me that only a few months ago Putin was very much intent on re-visiting the whole beginnings of the Second World War in a bizarre vote-winning blame game that came straight from the Trump play book. As with so much, it's yet another consequential casualty of the pandemic. This from the Guardian in December 2019:-  

Polish PM furious at Putin rewriting history of second world war

Mateusz Morawiecki attacks Russian president’s ‘lies’ blaming Poland for start of war


Poland’s prime minister has launched a furious response to claims by Vladimir Putin that Poland was partially responsible for the outbreak of the second world war. It is the latest episode in a bitter conflict over historical memory that is likely to intensify as the 75th anniversary of the victory over Nazism approaches next May.

Mateusz Morawiecki issued a four-page statement on Sunday accusing the Russian president of “repeated lies” over the history of the conflict. Earlier, the Polish foreign ministry said Putin’s words resembled “propaganda from the time of Stalinist totalitarianism”.

Morawiecki was responding to a speech by Putin at a summit of heads of former Soviet states in St Petersburg on 20 December. Putin gave the assembled leaders an hour-long history lecture, drawing on a sheaf of archival documents he had brought with him. The Russian president has also raised the issue at a number of other meetings in recent days, including a gathering of top army generals in which he called Poland’s ambassador to Nazi Germany “a scumbag and an antisemitic pig”.

Morawiecki said Putin was playing with history in order to distract from international pressure over issues such as sanctions and a doping ban for Russian athletes. “I consider president Putin’s words as an attempt to cover up these problems. The Russian leader is well aware that his accusations have nothing to do with reality.”

The Polish foreign ministry also summoned the Russian ambassador to complain to him about Putin’s comments last week.

Putin is particularly angry about a recent European parliament resolution that said the Soviet Union bore responsibility for starting the second world war, alongside Nazi Germany. That, in turn, came after a concerted effort from the Russian foreign ministry earlier this year to rehabilitate the 1939 Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact, which 10 years ago Putin had called “pointless, harmful and dangerous”. This year, Russia’s culture minister called it “a triumph of Soviet diplomacy”.

Putin, in his recent speech, insisted that the pact was born of Soviet defensive requirements and only came about after other western powers, including Poland, had signed their own agreements with the Nazis. Putin pointed to Neville Chamberlain’s 1938 Munich agreement in particular, saying war became inevitable after this point.

The key difference, glossed over by Putin, is that the 1939 Nazi-Soviet pact had a secret protocol in which the two powers divided up territory. The Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east two weeks after the Germans attacked from the west.

“Without Stalin’s complicity in the partition of Poland, and without the natural resources that Stalin supplied to Hitler, the Nazi German crime machine would not have taken control of Europe,” wrote Morawiecki in his statement.

Sergey Radchenko, professor of international relations at the University of Cardiff, said Putin’s claims were highly selective and historically dubious in places, but he also criticised the European parliament resolution for equating Nazi and Soviet guilt for the outbreak of the war. “History is a complicated business, best left to professional historians. What we’ve seen in the last few months is not history, it’s absurd political theatre,” he said.

As the number of surviving veterans continues to shrink, the politicisation of the war’s legacy is gathering speed across Europe. In Poland, the nationalist ruling Law and Justice party has also been accused of creating an overly simplistic and nationalist version of the country’s history.

However, Donald Tusk, a former prime minister of Poland and a critic of the current government, who until recently was the president of the European council, said Poles should unite to rebut Putin’s claims. “In view of President Putin’s brazen lies and Russian propaganda, a joint position of the Polish authorities and the opposition is needed. This is not the place and time for an internal dispute,” Tusk wrote on Twitter.

Over his two decades in charge of Russia, Putin has turned victory in the second world war, still referred to there as the Great Patriotic War, into the foundation stone of his rule, calling on all Russians to be proud of the immense Soviet sacrifice in the war and railing at western nations who downplay the Soviet war effort. Victory Day, 9 May, has become one of the main holidays in the Russian calendar, and is accompanied by nationalistic tub-thumping and a military parade.

At the 70th anniversary in 2015, almost all western leaders stayed away from the event in protest at the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine, which had been carried out using second world war symbols and rhetoric. Putin used his speech on the occasion to warn against a “unipolar world”, implicitly comparing the modern-day US with Nazi Germany.

A huge commemoration is again planned for the 75th anniversary, and the Kremlin hopes that Donald Trump will be in attendance. The US president said last month he appreciated the invite and “would love to go if I could”.

21 comments:

  1. It's only a few months since Putin attended the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz and the 5th World Holocaust Forum in Israel.
    The events were attended by many world leaders, and Putins comments at the events caused some controversy, even the accusation of trying to rewrite history.
    However, it's interesting how Putin was received by Israel, how his visit was portrayed in some of the Israeli press, and how even some other Russian Oligarchs receive attention.
    This from the Times Of Israel.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/among-dozens-of-world-leaders-in-jerusalem-putin-proves-the-dominant-presence/

    'Getafix

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    1. Excerpt from German President's speech yesterday:-

      "Human dignity shall be inviolable." This first sentence of our constitution is and remains a public reminder of what happened in Auschwitz, of what happened in the war and during the dictatorship. It is not remembrance that is a burden – it is non-remembrance that becomes a burden.

      It is not professing responsibility that is shameful – it is denial that is shameful!

      But what does our historic responsibility mean today – three-quarters of a century after the fact? The gratitude we feel today must not make us complacent. We must never forget that remembrance is a challenge and a duty.

      "Never again," we vowed after the war. But for us Germans in particular, this "never again" means "never again alone". This sentence is truer in Europe than anywhere else. We must keep Europe together. We must think, feel and act as Europeans. If we do not hold Europe together, also during and after this pandemic, then we will have shown ourselves not to be worthy of 8 May. If Europe fails, the "never again" also fails.

      The international community learned from this "never again". After 1945, it forged a new foundation out of all it had learnt from this catastrophe, it built human rights and international law, rules to preserve peace and cooperation.

      Our country, from which evil once emanated, has over the years changed from being a threat to the international order to being its champion. And so we must not allow this peaceful order to disintegrate before our eyes. We must not allow ourselves to be estranged from those who established it. We want more cooperation around the world, not less – also when it comes to fighting the pandemic.

      "8 May was a day of liberation." In my opinion, these famous words of Richard von Weizsäcker’s have to be reinterpreted today. When they were spoken, they constituted a milestone in our efforts to come to terms with our past. But today they must point to our future. For liberation is never complete, and it is not something that we can just experience passively. It challenges us actively, every day anew.

      In 1945 we were liberated. Today, we must liberate ourselves.

      From the temptations of a new brand of nationalism. From a fascination with authoritarianism. From distrust, isolationism and hostility between nations. From hatred and hate speech, from xenophobia and contempt for democracy – for they are but the old evil in a new guise. On this 8 May, we commemorate the victims of Hanau, of Halle and Kassel. They have not been forgotten in the midst of COVID-19.

      "If it can happen here, it can happen anywhere." These words were spoken by Israel’s President Reuven Rivlin on Holocaust Remembrance Day in the German Bundestag earlier this year. If it can happen here, it can happen anywhere. But today there is nobody to liberate us from these dangers. We have to liberate ourselves. We were liberated – freed to be responsible for our own actions!

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    2. All the "strong" populist [& strangely all right-wing] leaders like each other, because they *are* like each other - Bolsonaro, Putin, Trump, Netanyahu, Lukashenko, Modi, Erdogan.

      I'm not sure Johnson quite makes the grade as yet, but he's working on it.

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    3. "I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."

      Ernesto "Che" Guevara

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    4. Boris had a go at Bridge building himself once.
      He found it such a difficult task he had to abandon it and reward the taxpayer with another big bill for incompetence and stupidly.

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  2. “History is a complicated business, best left to professional historians. What we’ve seen in the last few months is not history, it’s absurd political theatre”

    Probation is a complicated business, best left to professional practitioners. What we've seen in the last few years is not probation, its absurd political theatre.

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  3. Professor Dr Donald John Trump was taking the greatest are to look after US Veterans yesterday:

    [Trump] said he was correct not to wear a mask while visiting the World War II memorial in Washington for VE Day, because the elderly veterans there with him were "far away".

    "Plus the wind was blowing so hard and such a direction that if the plague ever reached them, I'd be very surprised," he added.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52595700

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    1. In fairness, he's right. Unless the veterans were within 2 metres of him and clearly they weren't, then there was no need for a mask. We need to remain rational.

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    2. And was EVERYBODY 2m away & upwind of him at all times? We need to remain rational.

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    3. and pub argument ensues... yawn...

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  4. We are still at war.

    The class war.

    The race war.

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    1. Thanks to the heroes that fought for us in the great wars. There will always be some struggles that continue.

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  5. 1984.

    Winston Smith works as a clerk in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth, where his job is to rewrite historical documents so they match the constantly changing current party line. This involves revising newspaper articles and doctoring photographs—mostly to remove "unpersons", people who have fallen afoul of the party.....

    Winston himself fell foul of the party and taken to room 101 where.....

    Any possibility of resistance or independent thought is destroyed when Smith is forced to accept the assertion 2 + 2 = 5, a phrase which has entered the lexicon to represent obedience to ideology over rational truth or fact. 

    Have we all of us become party members?

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    1. The reference to 1984 is a timely reminder of tyrannical left wing governments and the control they have they have over their citizens.

      The parallels are there between 1984 and the reaction of the Chinese government when news of the coronavirus first emerged in Wuhan. The doctors spoke the truth but as that ran counter to the official party line, they were arrested, silenced, disappeared, etc. Much like the Chinese government's treatment of the Uighers and the re-education camps. Our country is not perfect and the government's response has been poor but when you compare us to the oppressed people of China, North Korea, Cuba, etc, you realise we have a lot to be grateful for.

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    2. 1984 - possibly when probation centralisation began, though some might cite 1936 as the beginning of managerialism with the first SPO's.

      But 1984 bought us SNOP = statement of national objectives and priorities for the probation service -

      https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1984/may/16/the-probation-service-objectives-and

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  6. Boris is the king. Has won the war against coronavirus. We see tomorrow lock down ends we all back at coal face Monday

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    1. Annon 19:12

      Please be aware. The virus kills stupid people too.
      Please don't think you're safe.
      Even Boris had the benefit of education and he caught it.
      Being stupid won't protect you.

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    2. Classically trained in the arts Boris knows fuck all else than privlidge and class. He has entitlement by education. His name is pfeifal for crying out loud what a bozo leading this country he's already killed 20 thousand extra arguing football crowds don't necessarily spread c19 don't the hear the Berk saying that now do you. Tory scum .

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  7. I sometimes wonder what happens to people. There's a raft of folks who I just cannot fathom. I have a life outside of probation. I always did have, its just more outside than otherwise now. Some aspects of who I am are fixed while other elements are flexible and I believe they are directly related to aspects of being a person who makes the effort to be a half-decent human being.

    Language, honesty, integrity & courage are essential elements that remain with me wherever I am. Writing PSRs, being a court duty officer (mags & crown) and working with sex offenders were the keystones of my probation career.

    I cannot understand managerialism, JFDI, it is what it is. I cannot comprehend what it is that makes people feel so good they surrender their integrity. I cannot even begin to get my head around lying.

    As far as I could tell from 20+ years' graft, sex offenders & DV perpetrators lived in a fantasy world built on lies & self-deception. It was never their fault, never their responsibility, they were framed, set-up. slighted, seduced, pushed too far, but they could also be charismatic, believable & full of bon homie - until confronted with the dissonance of their situation.

    And that is what I see with Grayling, Johnson &, to be fair, most politicians.

    Currently they seem to be living in a world where they're managing a fantasy pandemic - one where there's enough PPE, everyone's prepared, the lockdown was timed to perfection, etc etc. Just watch their responses in the briefings when they are challenged with the reality of the situation - Raab, Hancock, Gove, Jenrick have all snapped, snarled & snipped at the person asking the question.

    "So how did you get to the child pornography site?"
    "So why did you punch your partner in the kidneys?"

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    1. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/priti-patel-will-have-to-keep-shielding-until-a-brain-donor-is-available-5hxt63wqs

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  8. If anyone really wants to be shocked at just how greedy and self serving those at the top are, please watch
    Together TV at 9pm tonight (freeview) The UK Gold.
    I'm sorry to veer off topic, but I think it really is something that should be watched if not already seen.
    It really is eye opening and shocking.

    'Getafix

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