Dear Members
Please read the attached documents from Napo GS and sister unions. We remain in dispute with Seetec over pay amongst other things. While we seek a fairer pay award we have had nothing that goes anywhere near a reasonable offer let alone fair. Instead Seetec continue to rewrite their own account of the truth. Their derisory, pathetic minimal contractual pay imposition on our members is just insulting when they won't attend properly to fair and assessed weighted workloads.
While we all look forwards to the new 80% staffing and workloads return to Public Services where pay is agreed by members and reflects a better pay value of staff, although still short of what Probation staff are worth. We can see now despite early day flannel in the Seetec CRC your worth less. They continue to expect more and their duplicitous campaign to damage our STAP protected policies. Your terms will be worsened should you be unfortunate enough to remain in a future CRC when and if new arrangements are brokered into place. Let's hope not then but for now you have the opportunity to register the dissent we hear from members daily in the anger staff feel at the way Seetec operate their attempts to force another major series of ill prepared changes whilst still ignoring the urgency of the recent HMIP report. This is an indicative ballot and a good response in number is important to register your continued unhappiness at the way the Seetec group continue the same tactics of their failed aggressive predecessors Working Links. Read carefully the good efforts of the NAPO Head Office to work positively with Seetec only to be aware of their real intentions of further and unreasonable delay tactic.
Finally let you, the hard pressed staff down with the most miserly CRC pay award and differential between East and West that is incredible to try and front up. They have no sense of acting properly to pay well and equitably and this cannot be allowed to continue. Vote now, vote early when the survey comes to your e mail and let's ensure a full response so the Unions leaderships have a measure on what direction to push our action while unfairness on pay continues.
Dino Peros
Dino Peros
Napo SSW Branch Chair.
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SEETEC KSS CRC FAIL TO ENGAGE ON PAY – UNIONS LAUNCH INDICATIVE BALLOTS
In this special bulletin
Last month we advised members that the probation unions had formally notified KSS CRC/ SEETEC that we were now in dispute with the employer on Pay following their failure to comply with their obligation to supply data that would inform meaningful negotiations.
Despite a realistically structured pay claim and a detailed presentation to KSS/SEETEC senior management, it became clear that there was no real intention (or it seems any authority) to engage properly with the unions. Moreover, the information supplied (when it eventually arrived), was not only inadequate but failed to explain the reason why the employer is intent on maintaining a two-tier workforce with pay disparity between the east and west of their extended workforce. We then asked the employer to join us in common cause to make a case for additional funding from the MoJ/HMPPS and to meet with us again to see if any progress could be made towards improving their pay offer. The employer has rejected both of these requests.
All of the foregoing is in stark contrast to the promises from the employer to constructively engage with trade unions when they stepped in to replace the failed Working Links CRC. Some things do not change it seems.
Hard-pressed staff deserve a decent pay rise!
The astonishing revelation back in early 2018 that Working Links/Aurelius were paid £4.2 million by the MoJ in that financial year (part of a four year package reportedly worth £277 million to shore up the 21 CRCs in England and Wales) caused understandable anger among many members who had not seen a decent pay rise for some years. Just how much of this was pocketed by directors and shareholders is anyone’s guess.
It was quite reasonable for members to expect that once SEETEC had moved in to replace the shambolic Working Links regime there would be room in the new funding arrangements between SEETEC and the MoJ to offer staff a decent pay rise, especially as rates of pay in the NPS are substantially higher. Instead, their new employers have treated you with gross disrespect.
The imposition of a two-year award for staff working in the areas originally covered by KSS CRC has compounded matters and that award still falls short of the joint pay claim. This is why all CRC members are encouraged to take part in this important consultative exercise. This is an opportunity for members to demonstrate solidarity with each other across all of the regions now covered by the employer.
Appended to this bulletin are copies of correspondence between the unions and employer illustrating our efforts to negotiate and their response. We intend asking some serious questions in Parliament about the current funding structure that has been put in place and why SEETEC have obviously failed to undertake appropriate due diligence prior to replacing Working Links.
We want meaningful dialogue and transparency
We need to make it clear to all our members that the unions would rather not be in this dispute. We want to engage in dialogue where the employer shows a willingness to explore every avenue to pay staff what they deserve. Unfortunately, this will require a change in approach from the SEETEC board, who seem to think (as did the former disgraceful employer), that trade union members are an irrelevance. Just like their predecessors, they fail to understand that staff know more about what is actually needed to improve the catastrophic state of operations that they inherited. If they want your support in this regard then they ought to get back around the table and find the means to pay up now!
Indicative ballot - your chance to direct the dispute
We need to get a better understanding from our loyal members as to what they think about the current situation and your willingness if necessary, to move to the next stage of this unnecessary dispute. Napo, UNISON and GMB are now launching a series of consultative ballots for our members across the whole of the KSS CRC. Please look out for more news about the balloting process and please show this bulletin to colleagues who may not be in a trade union and encourage them to sign up with the union of their choice and join the campaign for fair pay!
We are asking all union members to make a clear statement in this ballot by voting ‘Yes’ to the relevant questions.
Ian Lawrence, Sarah Friday, Tania Bassett. Napo
SEETEC KSS CRC FAIL TO ENGAGE ON PAY – UNIONS LAUNCH INDICATIVE BALLOTS
In this special bulletin
- Employer fails to supply relevant data and rejects further pay talks
- Shoddy pay award imposed on staff
- Staff told they should be grateful at ‘the further (non-pay related) investment’ by SEETEC
- All CRC members to be asked how we should now proceed
Last month we advised members that the probation unions had formally notified KSS CRC/ SEETEC that we were now in dispute with the employer on Pay following their failure to comply with their obligation to supply data that would inform meaningful negotiations.
Despite a realistically structured pay claim and a detailed presentation to KSS/SEETEC senior management, it became clear that there was no real intention (or it seems any authority) to engage properly with the unions. Moreover, the information supplied (when it eventually arrived), was not only inadequate but failed to explain the reason why the employer is intent on maintaining a two-tier workforce with pay disparity between the east and west of their extended workforce. We then asked the employer to join us in common cause to make a case for additional funding from the MoJ/HMPPS and to meet with us again to see if any progress could be made towards improving their pay offer. The employer has rejected both of these requests.
All of the foregoing is in stark contrast to the promises from the employer to constructively engage with trade unions when they stepped in to replace the failed Working Links CRC. Some things do not change it seems.
Hard-pressed staff deserve a decent pay rise!
The astonishing revelation back in early 2018 that Working Links/Aurelius were paid £4.2 million by the MoJ in that financial year (part of a four year package reportedly worth £277 million to shore up the 21 CRCs in England and Wales) caused understandable anger among many members who had not seen a decent pay rise for some years. Just how much of this was pocketed by directors and shareholders is anyone’s guess.
It was quite reasonable for members to expect that once SEETEC had moved in to replace the shambolic Working Links regime there would be room in the new funding arrangements between SEETEC and the MoJ to offer staff a decent pay rise, especially as rates of pay in the NPS are substantially higher. Instead, their new employers have treated you with gross disrespect.
The imposition of a two-year award for staff working in the areas originally covered by KSS CRC has compounded matters and that award still falls short of the joint pay claim. This is why all CRC members are encouraged to take part in this important consultative exercise. This is an opportunity for members to demonstrate solidarity with each other across all of the regions now covered by the employer.
Appended to this bulletin are copies of correspondence between the unions and employer illustrating our efforts to negotiate and their response. We intend asking some serious questions in Parliament about the current funding structure that has been put in place and why SEETEC have obviously failed to undertake appropriate due diligence prior to replacing Working Links.
We want meaningful dialogue and transparency
We need to make it clear to all our members that the unions would rather not be in this dispute. We want to engage in dialogue where the employer shows a willingness to explore every avenue to pay staff what they deserve. Unfortunately, this will require a change in approach from the SEETEC board, who seem to think (as did the former disgraceful employer), that trade union members are an irrelevance. Just like their predecessors, they fail to understand that staff know more about what is actually needed to improve the catastrophic state of operations that they inherited. If they want your support in this regard then they ought to get back around the table and find the means to pay up now!
Indicative ballot - your chance to direct the dispute
We need to get a better understanding from our loyal members as to what they think about the current situation and your willingness if necessary, to move to the next stage of this unnecessary dispute. Napo, UNISON and GMB are now launching a series of consultative ballots for our members across the whole of the KSS CRC. Please look out for more news about the balloting process and please show this bulletin to colleagues who may not be in a trade union and encourage them to sign up with the union of their choice and join the campaign for fair pay!
We are asking all union members to make a clear statement in this ballot by voting ‘Yes’ to the relevant questions.
Ian Lawrence, Sarah Friday, Tania Bassett. Napo
Siobhan Brown, Debbie Monksfield, UNISON
Helen Coley. GMB
Helen Coley. GMB
Email received this week at Interserve:
ReplyDeleteFollowing feedback from colleagues about the importance of reaching a swift but fair 2019/20 pay award, Interserve, Unison and NAPO entered early negotiation to reach a settlement that enabled us to pay the agreed sum at the earliest opportunity.
Unison and NAPO pushed for a settlement similar to the NPS, however we know this is, unfortunately, unaffordable for any CRC provider. The following principles were agreed:
1. all employees should receive a fully consolidated pay award.
2. Employees who are not at the top of the pay band should receive a spine point increment.
3. all pay awards should be back dated to April 2019
4. there should be a reduction in spine points for each grade.
After considering these principles and the financial position of the CRCs, and following some further negotiation, we have put to the unions our best pay award offer for 2019/20. This is:
1. employees not at the top of the pay band receive one spine point increase (1%) - this has already been paid.
2. the value of all spine points is to be increased by 1% fully consolidated and back dated to April 2019.
3. the bottom two spine points from each pay band will be removed and back dated to April 19.
The offer is equivalent to 2% for most people, with over 260 of our lowest paid colleagues receiving 3% as we reduce the number of spine points in each grade. Those at the top of the scale will receive 1% fully consolidated. The offer compares favourable with the rest of Interserve where the pay award is 1%
Unions intend on balloting their members imminently and we hope that we will be able to pay the award by September
BBC, Feb 2019:
ReplyDeleteMPs are to receive a 2.7% pay rise from April, taking their salary to £79,468.
MPs who chair select committees will also see a rise of 2.7% on the additional £15,509 they receive for that role - taking it to £15,928.
The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority said it had committed to changing MPs' pay in line with public-sector earnings.
Its figures show the basic salary paid to MPs will have risen by £13,730 since April 2010.
The rise follows a 1.8% rise last year, 1.4% in 2017, 1.3% in 2016 and a large hike, from £67,000 to £74,000, in 2015.
Ipsa was handed control of decisions over MPs' pay and expenses in the wake of the 2009 expenses scandal and it does not need the agreement of Parliament to bring in the changes.
'An outrage'
MPs' pay is linked to average rises in the public sector, as determined by the Office for National Statistics. It announced the 2.7% figure on an interim basis in December and confirmed last week to IPSA.
The above-inflation rise was criticised by the general secretary of the Public and Commercial Services union, Mark Serwotka, as "an outrage... while civil servants, who do some of the most vital jobs in society, are still subject to a cruel 1% de-facto pay cap."
And Labour MP Kevin Barron said: "I am very disappointed to see that IPSA have this morning awarded MPs a 2.7% pay increase but only 1.5% for parliamentary staff.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/388885/basic-rate-salary-uk-members-of-parliament-timeline/
DeleteAs of April 1, 2019 the basic annual salary for Members of Parliament in the United Kingdom was just over 79 thousand British pounds This marked an increase of just over 13.7 thousand pounds when compared with April 2012, when MPs earned 65.7 thousand a year.
https://www.newstatesman.com/2018/03/mps-have-had-yet-another-pay-rise-77000-fair-salary-politician
The average worker earned £512 a week before tax in December 2017, according to the Office for National Statistics (the figure is seasonally adjusted). From April, an MP will earn £77,379 a year, or £1,488 a week, when divided by 52 weeks of the year. While it’s a rough comparison, MPs are on almost three times as much as the average worker.
Even some MPs don’t think that some of their pay rises are justified. In 2015, when MPs were awarded a £7,000 pay rise, 65 of them pledged to donate that money to charity.
In what may not come as a complete shock, only 25 of them ended up doing so – you can find the list here...:
https://metro.co.uk/2015/10/31/here-are-the-25-mps-who-actually-did-donate-their-7k-pay-rise-to-charity-5473201/
I think £77k is probably a bit on the low side for MPs, and they should probably be paid closer to £90k. It's an important job and should be remunerated accordingly.
DeleteOn the proviso, of course, that they have no external employment whatsoever for the duration of their term.
https://fullfact.org/economy/pay-rises-how-much-do-nurses-police-teachers-and-mps-get-paid/
ReplyDeleteNewly Qualified Police - From September 2010, the starting salary for a new police constable was £23,300 in England and Wales.
From September 2017, when the Home Office last changed police pay , new constables can get paid up to £23,100.
Taking into account inflation between 2010 and 2018 (using the CPIH measure), this was a reduction in pay of 16% (£4,300) in the space of eight years.
Newly Qualified Teachers - In 2010, the starting salary for teachers in England and Wales outside of London was £21,600.
As of September 2017, a newly qualified teacher’s minimum salary is £22,900. Although this looks like a modest increase, taking into account inflation, it’s actually a reduction in of around £2,500, or 10%.
Fully Qualified Nurse Starter Salaries - When nurses qualify they start on Band 5 of the NHS pay scale. From April 2010, newly qualified nurses in England got paid a starting salary of about £21,200.
From 2018, new nurses should start on £23,000.
Taking into account inflation, new starter nurses are now earning around £1,900 less than they might have in 2010. That’s an 8% reduction in pay over eight years.
MPs - In April 2010, MPs earned around £65,700 and from April 2018 earn £77,400.
Their wage has broadly kept in line with inflation over the last eight years, meaning that the real terms reduction in their pay works out at around £50—less than 0.1% of their wage.
This does not include expenses, or extra money that MPs with additional roles, like being government ministers, may be eligible for.
I really don't know what due process the unions are forced to follow in pursuit of resolution to the issues raised in today's blog post.
ReplyDeleteI do however think that discussion and negotiation with the private employers is unlikely to yield any fruit. It may be a different story if the private employers were looking to renew their contracts, but the reunification of probation services, and no new contracts means the private employers are simply focused on contract expiry, and how much money they can realise between now and exit date.
Time is on their side. Expiry date is close enough for them to bluster, confuse, deceive and just keep talking until they can just walk away sticking two fingers up.
I see the issues raised in today's blog as being bigger then the sum of their parts. They're issues that are relevent too, and widespread across the whole public sector that have been farmed out to the private sector.
The Unions need to be engaging with the government, not the private employer, and I don't see any reason why all unions that represent public sector workers can't come together on a united front to challange the government on the issues faced by outsourced public sector workers. Many of the concerns being raised by any particular union are just being replicated by other unions. If they're all fighting the same battles then why do it independently? Why not team up? A group of independent unions pooling knowledge and resource to stand against the the abusive conditions imposed on public services workers by multinational outsourcing companies.
Something really needs to be done about the way government are outsourcing services. Carillion left a mess and a huge bill for the taxpayer. Working Links the same, and Interserve were allowed to shaft its shareholders, and having lost everything they'd invested they must be pretty angry to learn that since its dodgy administration, Interserve have won over £41m in contracts.
The problems for public service workers are widespread, but they're pretty much universal, staffing, pay, workloads and conditions.
It may require some radical thinking and even more radical action, but it needs to be addressed now, otherwise it will just get a whole lot worse.
(just an aside on Seetec)
https://www.thejournal.ie/jobpath-ireland-4689305-Jun2019/
'Getafix
Bit too much armchair there the unions have to raise the issues across all structures to vent for members frustration and seek changes to be in campaign. The notion unions can set out just anywhere or do not know what to be saying to who is a bit of a relaxed view. The moj are just using Seetec for the duration of handover and will get them to field the flack which is why they are doing all they can to keep taking the cash on offer. They will be sick on the diet soon enough .
DeleteSeetec don't want pay parity. It's ironic that SPO's in Seetec earn more than they do in the nps whilst staff on the ground earn less. It's also management heavy, micro managing staff.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/14/public-health-duty-on-violent-crime-will-bring-long-term-change-says-sajid-javid
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