Friday 26 June 2015

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This from the latest blog from Napo General Secretary Ian Lawrence:-

SODEXO AND THE NNC DISPUTES

I reported earlier this week that the two disputes registered by Napo and Unison reps in South Yorkshire and Northumbria were to be considered by the National Negotiating Council (NNC) Joint Secretaries (of which I am one, and Francis Stuart of NOMS is the other).

Whilst I am in discussion with my Employers Side counterpart about the wording of a possible determination of these and one other unrelated dispute that we looked at yesterday, I am naturally limited in what I am able to say about them right now.

Meanwhile, it is reasonable to reveal that the genesis of these two disputes and the six others that have been served over the last fortnight or so, is that the unions believe that any attempt to vary a National Agreement cannot, under the terms of the protections that were secured from the former Secretary of State, be a subject for local discussion unless first referred to the NNC.

I am sure that many members in those six CRC’s, who are anxious to understand what it is they might be offered if they apply for EVR, may see this as a side issue but please read on.

During the many discussions that have been going on between NOMS, Sodexo and their six CRC’s it has become inescapably clear that Sodexo are not used to collective bargaining arrangements such as the NNC, and that we are not used to having to deal with them; but nevertheless we need to find a solution that accommodates this fact of life.

As I write, we have just had another full and frank discussion with Sodexo, but one which I hope has produced some constructive outcomes. I believe we can find a way to enter structured discussions about the EVR issue, whilst at the same time being able to assure members that we will be seeking a mandate from you and acting upon it. The unions are also asking that our national collective bargaining machinery will be respected at the same time, and that such a process must also allow the unions the normal opportunities to properly consult with those members most likely to be effected.

I appreciate that everyone with a potential stake in all this wants to know what is going on by the minute; but be assured that your negotiators are doing the right thing for you and all those Napo members in other CRC’s who may find themselves in a similar situation in the near future.

It’s very likely that more news about the situation will emerge early next week.

14 comments:

  1. Am I alone in that paragraph 6 ("seeking a mandate") reads very much as though Sodexo's so far 'secret offer' will be put to members (on Monday perhaps) for members to decide whether to accept or not? If so, this is a diluted stance, that a concession has been made in terms of holding out for the NNC agreed EVR, so long as the unions get to retain their power to consult with those affected (not effected).

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    1. The power of collective bargaining: it took 12+ months to negotiate a 0% pay rise, The 'power to consult' requires NAPO to have a membership and sadly that is about to dwindle whatever the terms of any redundancies. It is a reflection of the damage done in eroding trade union rights, this government will continue to destroy employee rights whilst giving backhanders to big business. Whatever your view on the redundancy fiasco remember the big picture. Whether you ultimately stay or go, whether you believe in the individuals currently leading your union or not, please defend the right to be in a trade union or the future as an employee will be even bleaker.

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    2. I agree with your sentiments of course many do . However as you put it fiasco yet another and the Napo leadership are in a total mess it is obvious to many in the offices now as we face yet another onslaught and the reps are feeling powerless as the centre of the union is seen as pathetic not just by all the employers but by the resigning membership. No fight napo just nap.

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  2. What a twat he has a mandate what he is looking for is permission to trade down in order to stay in the game. Look on as you see members running for the doors that will be your own income as we run or get sacked the employers will invoke the 49% issues of recognition and napo will be gone anyway .

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  3. "I believe we can find a way to enter structured discussions about the EVR issue..." - what the fuck does that mean? Have you been having unstructured discussions thus far?

    As 16:22 points out above, "we will be seeking a mandate"? You have a mandate. The National Agreement, the EVR arrangements that have been agreed and ratified.

    This sounds bad... "we are not used to having to deal with them." in fact it sounds cheap, amateurish & embarassing.

    Who "them"?? They're our employer. What's not to know? Haven't you had to negotiate with an employer before? Or is it coz they're French? Or are you just not very 'affective' (effective, I know).

    Ciao, ciao, four & a half weeks.

    Hello, statutory minimum.

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  4. I do not have a bloody clue what he is on about but share 16:56 dismay that we are now only at the point of «entering structured discussions». Just get on with it.

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  5. Mandate ??? Isn't there an AGREEMENT IN PLACE???

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  6. I am lost for words - what hope is there unless we stand together and fight against NAPO toptable

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    1. I think your bloody right 19:27 and they still don't learn a thing about members needs. Just worrying they will have enough to pay themselves.

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  7. "It’s very likely that more news about the situation will emerge early next week."

    thats all I have been hearing from NAPO, same shit different day.

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  8. We need Tom Rendon back. Someone leading from the front who would have no problem bursting through the doors of Whitehall demanding answers and action. He had grit and balls to get the job done

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    1. To 06:53 are you serious??!!

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  9. Hahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahah��

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