There is a lack of industry and focus on the work and I am sick of colleagues who will not go try their best to speak with a punter before they recall him. Recall bingo seems to be the new game now closely followed by enforcement bagatelle. Why? Because we are not allowed to develop our own profession it is all done by external people, some of the academics have made a meal ticket out of probation theories, the four pillars for instance! Academics sitting in their universities away from the real world dreaming up projects to get funding and then sell it to those at the top with no knowledge and then it is made mandatory learning so that if something goes wrong you can be hung out to dry.
*****
It astounds me that, despite the knowledge, talent, experience and expertise that exists within probation, the profession and its practices are so consistently designed and shaped by people who have very little to do with the actual practice of probation.
Imagine law, social work or even the police accepting this as normal. Imagine people who had never qualified as lawyers or social workers, or who had never walked the beat, routinely telling those professions how they should practice and introducing the latest “new” ways of doing their jobs.
Yet probation seems to lap it up. We have become remarkably accepting of being told how to do our own job by people who have never actually done it. This isn’t simply a consequence of the modern Civil Service structure or the Civil Service Code. It was happening long before either existed in their current form. The deeper problem is that probation has repeatedly surrendered professional authority over its own practice.
For a profession with a 100 year history and such a wealth of frontline knowledge and expertise, that should be a far more uncomfortable truth than it appears to be.
Evidence of this phenomenon in probation manifests across three primary dimensions:
1. The Marketization of Human Transformation
The most explicit evidence of moral nihilism occurred during the UK's "Transforming Rehabilitation" (TR) reforms introduced in 2014. This policy split the probation service, handing 70% of low-to-medium risk cases over to private Community Rehabilitation Companies (CRCs) operating on a "payment-by-results" model.
Values as Liabilities: The traditional, relationship-based ethos of probation—historically defined as to "advise, assist, and befriend"—was structurally incompatible with commercial targets.
Perverse Financial Incentives: Private providers were incentivized to maximize profit margins, leading to systemic corner-cutting. The National Audit Office and Chief Inspector of Probation eventually labeled the experiment "irredeemably flawed," noting that business imperatives routinely trumped public safety and genuine care.
2. The Rise of "Tick-Box" Managerialism
Corporate moral nihilism shifts the focus from substantive ethics (doing what is right for the individual and community) to formal compliance (doing what protects the institution on paper).
Abstracting the Individual: People on probation are reduced to risk algorithms and data points. Criminological research shows that a pervasive "tick-box" culture forces practitioners to focus on technical compliance over meaningful engagement.
Automated Surveillance: Under corporate structures, meaningful face-to-face intervention was frequently replaced by rapid, automated telephone check-ins. This reduced the deeply complex process of desistance from crime to a mere administrative reporting requirement.
Meaningless Labour: Punitive community service under outsourced contracts often degenerated into tasks devoid of rehabilitative value, such as moving mud back and forth in graveyards purely to satisfy contract hours.
An SFO occurs and watch everyone from SPO up retreat into their offices and leave the officer to deal with the SFO team those with largely limited experience of punters because they did not really want an active career in offender management. It is always the PO’s fault, not the lack of management oversight because they do not have the professional knowledge and experience to provide it, just to bully weaker staff and then try to manage those who stand up to them out of the team or service.
In a few years everyone will be in Serco uniforms, with welcome to probation badges on, ‘Hi, my name is Bruce’ and the punter issued with yellow and red cards to display during sessions prescribed by AI. You can only really effectively assess someone’s risk by sitting with them discussing their behaviour and linking in with other organisations. Tick box probation does not deliver. Last one out switch the lights out.
Anon
*****
It astounds me that, despite the knowledge, talent, experience and expertise that exists within probation, the profession and its practices are so consistently designed and shaped by people who have very little to do with the actual practice of probation.
Imagine law, social work or even the police accepting this as normal. Imagine people who had never qualified as lawyers or social workers, or who had never walked the beat, routinely telling those professions how they should practice and introducing the latest “new” ways of doing their jobs.
Yet probation seems to lap it up. We have become remarkably accepting of being told how to do our own job by people who have never actually done it. This isn’t simply a consequence of the modern Civil Service structure or the Civil Service Code. It was happening long before either existed in their current form. The deeper problem is that probation has repeatedly surrendered professional authority over its own practice.
For a profession with a 100 year history and such a wealth of frontline knowledge and expertise, that should be a far more uncomfortable truth than it appears to be.
Anon
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Can anyone think of another 'profession' which, having spent decades developing an ethos & core strategy to successfully "advise, assist & befriend" the most reviled in our communities, meekly & naiively surrendered itself to the whims of corporate moral nihilism?
And so here we are; stripped of any & all capacity to achieve meaningful outcomes, slaves to the unrealistic diktats of 'the centre', pawns to be sacrificed for the benefit of the kings & queens who hide in the shadows.
Once we've set aside our bruised egos & broken hearts, we need to accept that there are real people who have truly lost something vital as a result of this shameful, farcical dismantling of the only organisation that addressed the unspoken distaste for the criminal classes.
Who? Have we forgotten already?
Those sent by the courts to be assisted by the probation service. Yep, the punters, clients, cases, pops, old lags, crims, offenders, etc etc.
I'm certain the courts (for the most part) really believe that sentencing someone to be supervised by the probation service will involve them receiving assistance in addressing the reasons for the behaviour/s leading to an appearance in court.
I'm equally certain that the courts are complicit in being gravely misled. For decades successive governments of this country have shown no inclination to facilitate true 'rehabilitation';, despite a vague nod in the .gov.uk declaration:
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Can anyone think of another 'profession' which, having spent decades developing an ethos & core strategy to successfully "advise, assist & befriend" the most reviled in our communities, meekly & naiively surrendered itself to the whims of corporate moral nihilism?
And so here we are; stripped of any & all capacity to achieve meaningful outcomes, slaves to the unrealistic diktats of 'the centre', pawns to be sacrificed for the benefit of the kings & queens who hide in the shadows.
Once we've set aside our bruised egos & broken hearts, we need to accept that there are real people who have truly lost something vital as a result of this shameful, farcical dismantling of the only organisation that addressed the unspoken distaste for the criminal classes.
Who? Have we forgotten already?
Those sent by the courts to be assisted by the probation service. Yep, the punters, clients, cases, pops, old lags, crims, offenders, etc etc.
I'm certain the courts (for the most part) really believe that sentencing someone to be supervised by the probation service will involve them receiving assistance in addressing the reasons for the behaviour/s leading to an appearance in court.
I'm equally certain that the courts are complicit in being gravely misled. For decades successive governments of this country have shown no inclination to facilitate true 'rehabilitation';, despite a vague nod in the .gov.uk declaration:
"The Probation Service is a statutory criminal justice service that supervises offenders serving community sentences or released into the community from prison.... it protects the public, assesses risks, works to reduce reoffending & offers help and information to victims of crime."
Anon
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Despite dire current warnings that AI will almost certainly supplant human life, but whilst we're still at the 'party trick' stage, I thought I'd ask it about 'corporate moral nihilism', and this is what it produced:-
The concept of corporate moral nihilism within the criminal justice system refers to an organizational ethos where intrinsic values—such as justice, human dignity, and rehabilitation—are discarded in favor of efficiency, market metrics, and profitability. In probation services, particularly highlighted by the UK’s experimental privatization era, this creates what criminologists call a "moral void." Instead of treating rehabilitation as a human enterprise, the system treats it as a series of risk-managed transactions.Evidence of this phenomenon in probation manifests across three primary dimensions:
1. The Marketization of Human Transformation
The most explicit evidence of moral nihilism occurred during the UK's "Transforming Rehabilitation" (TR) reforms introduced in 2014. This policy split the probation service, handing 70% of low-to-medium risk cases over to private Community Rehabilitation Companies (CRCs) operating on a "payment-by-results" model.
Values as Liabilities: The traditional, relationship-based ethos of probation—historically defined as to "advise, assist, and befriend"—was structurally incompatible with commercial targets.
Perverse Financial Incentives: Private providers were incentivized to maximize profit margins, leading to systemic corner-cutting. The National Audit Office and Chief Inspector of Probation eventually labeled the experiment "irredeemably flawed," noting that business imperatives routinely trumped public safety and genuine care.
2. The Rise of "Tick-Box" Managerialism
Corporate moral nihilism shifts the focus from substantive ethics (doing what is right for the individual and community) to formal compliance (doing what protects the institution on paper).
Abstracting the Individual: People on probation are reduced to risk algorithms and data points. Criminological research shows that a pervasive "tick-box" culture forces practitioners to focus on technical compliance over meaningful engagement.
Automated Surveillance: Under corporate structures, meaningful face-to-face intervention was frequently replaced by rapid, automated telephone check-ins. This reduced the deeply complex process of desistance from crime to a mere administrative reporting requirement.
Meaningless Labour: Punitive community service under outsourced contracts often degenerated into tasks devoid of rehabilitative value, such as moving mud back and forth in graveyards purely to satisfy contract hours.
When an organization operates in a moral vacuum, the burden of that emptiness falls heavily onto the frontline staff.
Compromised Professionalism: Studies on the privatization era revealed that over a third of probation officers admitted to regularly cutting corners and lowering professional standards just to meet corporate targets.
The Care vs. Control Conflict: Forcing vocationally driven staff to act as low-cost monitors rather than agents of change creates systemic moral injury. Practitioners report extreme psychological distress because the systemic pressure to process high volumes of cases prevents them from providing the safe, ethical care required to actually reduce reoffending.
The corporate nihilist framework views these failures not as ethical disasters, but as mismanaged logistical parameters. While the UK fully reunified and returned probation to public control in 2021 to correct this "shambles," the lingering legacy of understaffing, target-driven strain, and administrative detachment remains a central critique of modern penal bureaucracy. (my emphasis)
Most of the staff like the above now Thats the rub
ReplyDelete“Most of the staff like the above now.”
DeletePerhaps some do. But I think there’s a more uncomfortable question: how would you know you’ve lost professional autonomy if you’ve never experienced it?
If your entire probation career has taken place within OASys, performance measures, prescribed processes, centrally designed practice models, mandatory e-learning and increasingly structured supervision, that isn’t managerialism intruding into probation practice.
To you, that is probation practice.
And I don’t mean that as criticism of newer staff. Quite the opposite. People cannot miss a professional culture they were never given the opportunity to inherit.
That’s why the loss of experienced practitioners matters beyond simple staffing numbers. When they leave, we don’t merely lose somebody capable of carrying a caseload. We lose memory of how the job can be done differently.
Perhaps the greatest success of managerialism isn’t persuading practitioners to accept less autonomy.
It’s eventually producing generations of practitioners who don’t recognise autonomy as something they’re supposed to possess.
That also makes all the current talk about “professionalisation” rather interesting.
You can create registers, standards, CPD requirements and eventually statutory regulation. But a profession isn’t simply a workforce whose members are individually regulated.
A profession also possesses a body of knowledge, an ethical identity and some meaningful authority over its own practice.
Otherwise we’re in danger of creating something rather peculiar:
professionally accountable individuals working in a profession that no longer controls its profession.
And perhaps that’s why the argument about probation’s purpose matters more than nostalgia for “advise, assist and befriend”.
If we can’t collectively articulate what good probation is, beyond completing the required processes, managing the allocated contacts, satisfying the assessment framework and demonstrating compliance, then somebody at the centre will continue defining it for us.
They have plenty of modules available to explain it afterwards.
Best way to sum it up is that people can't miss what they've never had.
DeleteI'm nearly 9 years in and this really is all I know. And anytime you try and move outside of it you get kicked back down e.g. "that's an off-menu RAR"...
I couldn't help it! Saw this & immediately thought of the OFPS regime & its babysteps training programme.
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8. Stir and enjoy. Stir gently with your teaspoon. Wait a minute or two for it to cool down so you don't burn your tongue, then enjoy your perfect brew!
There's also one for coffee, although most will have already bought some skinny mocha latte from a hmpps approved coffee chain on their way to work, possibly with their brownie points from the annual reward scheme.
Don’t forget the knowledge test.
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It’s not the same without the strange cartoon with the goatee beard, what is all that about? Will we return to the days of sandals/crocs with socks, cardigans with holes in and jackets with leather elbow patches and not forgetting lentil soup and rice and humus! It’s bad enough with the multicolour hair, tattoos and NAPO badges and lanyards promoting every charity on earth. Put a Union Jack badge on your lapel and you are an enemy of probation and the unions.
DeleteUnfortunately the experienced and professional staff are never consulted about the development of probation services. Those that work at the coal face have an abundance of experience who could show the academics and senior management what they are missing.When was the last time you saw an academic sitting in a probation session in the community, let alone on a wing in a prison, it is academia from the distance, the clean and disinfected perception of what probation is like. They have not witnessed the intimidation, the punctured tyres, the threatening notes and the face to face verbal abuse. When was the last time the academic had their address added to the police system in case they had a visit from someone following threats? It happens but is brushed under the carpet of statistics. The real world of probation is a long way from the utopia of the academics and managerialism that now pervades the system. I bet there are loads of operational band 4 probation staff working today to keep the management off their back tomorrow, well I am not one of those I love challenging conversations after all I have them with offenders daily.
ReplyDeleteget immersed in the criminal world, just like hmpps stooge ross kemp
Deletehttps://www.facebook.com/RossKempTV/videos/ad-what-really-happens-inside-the-probation-service-i-joined-hmppsofficial-to-me/818726351320024/
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That takes a particular person. One with excellent decision-making skills along with patience, empathy and resilience. You need to be able to listen but also challenge. You need strong judgement and the ability to communicate in a way that really makes a difference.
Emma works with offenders, families, services and the wider community, building the support around someone to give them the best chance of change. It’s not an easy job, but it’s an extraordinary one.
If a career in probation sounds like something you could do, search ‘probation jobs’ online to find out more. RK"
Do they not mention the word rehabilitation any more?
DeleteWhen I started in probation the SPOs led the way and were the ones we went to for advice, the senior managers we never saw. Now the SPOs come to us frontline POs for advice and the multiple senior managers and their minions email us daily for “performance updates”. It’s all back to front and there are too many managers who should never have been managers in the first place.
ReplyDeleteA significant proportion of the SPOs I currently encounter appear to have little appetite for, or aptitude for, frontline work with offenders. Experience is lacking and many moved into management because it offered an escape from the frontline work they disliked, a fact they do not hide. Unfortunately, many of these same individuals are a significant contributor to the toxic cultures and aggressive work practices that developed around them.
The problem then becomes compounded as they progress into Deputy and Head of PDU roles, taking the same attitudes, approaches and their friends with them. Unification already made this worse. Managers from UPW, programmes and other areas were moved into Business Manager, Deputy, Head of PDU and other senior roles, sometimes with very limited experience of what core probation work is. In some cases, PQiP qualifications were handed to these individuals to make them fit the professional requirements of roles they had already been placed into.
With probation continually promoting those with limited understanding or practical application of frontline probation, and then surrounding them with others with similarly limited experience, it is hardly surprising that Senior Leadership Teams become so willing to lap up Ministry instructions and academic claptrap without challenge.
Professional autonomy cannot exist where professional knowledge and experience are no longer present or valued at the top of the organisation.
Reading that back it presents a very dire picture.
But one that is extremely accurate
DeleteWell done, managed to get all the way to the 3rd paragraph before the SPO bashing commenced.
ReplyDeleteIt’s not as if there’s no accuracy to the comments. To be fair, there are some good SPOs and senior managers too who aren’t like that, a few even publish and get their voices out there too.
DeleteBut its precisely because of the uninformed, pisspoor & slopey shouldered at EVERY grade that probation is in the position its in today.
DeleteIn particular, once it was decided that managers didn't need to be experienced - or even qualified - probation officers then an already wounded service began its rapid decline into unrecoverable death throes, hence the unimaginable shitshow we see before us.
Well let’s face it they are the puppets of the management, how fast can I jump on the shovel, how high can I jump, you missed an apostrophe in the third paragraph of action 6.2!
DeleteWe are trying to fix the unfixable here. Probation is an impossible job and people who have been here years are looking through rose tinted glasses.
ReplyDeleteIt's always been a tainted career, most people don't even know we exist. And the biggest question, why are more people committing crime, why are more people up in court? Nobody wants to dig deep into corrupt governments, cost of living, decline in mental health provisions.
Rather we wallow in a world of blame game, poor training, poor managers, never any questions on the individuals who cause this initial harm. Very naive and limited thinking.
No Anon 12:04 I think the naive and limited thinking is with you and those like you. The organisation itself uses the blame game, we see that with SFO and performance approaches. It is no secret that there is poor training, even the universities providing PQIP training cannot criticise the Ministry. The problem of inexperienced and poor managers is widely documented by HMIP.
DeleteProbation historically was a noble career, not a tainted career. And the focus was actually not on stopping people committing crime, but stopping THE SAME people committing crime. Speak to anyone in probation that understands this differentiation and they’ll tell you the impact of cost of living, decline in mental health provisions, problems with access to social provision, and whatever else.
So there are no rose tinted glasses, and that term is used by managers to dismiss the opinions of those with experience and length of service. It’s an excuse to ignore the past and the embrace the current state of affairs without question.
Anon 12:35 I so very nearly responded to Anon 12:04 myself - but glad I resisted as mine was shamefully looking like an expletive!
DeleteDinosaurs the work has changed social. Problems entrenched double triple quadruple the offending rates and levels. Old school reflection is ok but you people couldn't deliver Todays work your kidding yourselves fantasists.
DeleteThe problem is @ 18:37 you are not delivering the work are you or are you just a probation patsy trying to cause issues or provoke a debate? A debate you cannot win, the current probation service is using recalls to fill the prisons, enforcement to fill the courts and people like you who think you are delivering. Let’s assume you are another 15 month pquip, think that you know everything, you probably do sitting at your laptop, providing fantastic RMPs that are unworkable but what your manager wants with no offender facing experience or are you one of the new breed SPOs with nothing to offer apart from tick the box politics.
Delete"Problems entrenched double triple quadruple the offending rates and levels."
DeleteLong-Term Crime Trends (2000 to 2026) suggest otherwise:
• Early 2000s Peak: Recorded crime in England and Wales was high in the early 2000s, with police recording over 5 million offences annually
* consequences of tory govt rule May 1979 until May 1997?
• Mid-2010s Lows: Overall crime rates fell steadily, reaching a low point around 2013/14 at roughly 62 crimes per 1,000 people.
* country feeling benefits of early labour govt?
• Recent Increases: Crime rates climbed significantly post-2015, driven largely by increases in online fraud, sexual offences, and a sharp post-pandemic spike in shoplifting. By 2022/23, the overall crime rate peaked at 93.5 crimes per 1,000 people before stabilizing
* coincidence that its a return to tory rule? Add in disastrous privatisation of probation?
Reoffending?
The one-year proven reoffending rate in England and Wales for the baseline year 2000 was approximately 26.2%
The overall proven reoffending rate in England and Wales is 29.9% based on recent tracking data.
In 2010, before TR & the 'modern' probation model, the Probation Service was recognised as a gold standard organisation.
"you people couldn't deliver Todays work"
Really? So recent Performance shows ...
In recent reports the HM Inspector of Probation rated the vast majority of [if not all] areas as achieving less than 50% of the required targets/measurements (in some cases not even reaching 20%).
Oh you all want to argue . The changes you won't appreciate came in the 90s nellis spouting out the new reform was not learning developmental change or responsibility. It was a shift to punish in the form of just deserts. It has been moving steadily in that way since. The end game. Is when any old values base is extinct and the new model is consolidated. As a very long toother dinosaur myself I am not hanging to the unrealistic fantasy probation could be restored by a culture that has it sights elsewhere and sadly we allowed it to happen. I recall many conversation with younger staff looking with glee to be a pom despite grave pleadings they ran into this and there were all are now . Probation is lost grow up accept it.
DeleteDARVO is a manipulative behavior pattern where a person confronted with wrongdoing denies the action, attacks the person speaking out, and reverses the roles of victim and offender - sound familiar, people in probation?
DeleteNot really. Practitioners past and present talk about ways probation work can be improved.
DeleteWhat Needs To Change For Probation To Be More Effective?
https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/what-needs-change-probation-be-more-effective
2132 gobol de gook more understandable as a narcissist. Your double talking is why probation is being rinsed away as previous crap.
Delete@23:41 - I think @21:32 highlights hmpps/probation management behaviours quite accurately - denial that they've ever done anything wrong, attacking those who point out their faults while claiming its not fair they're being criticised & describing those who dare challenge their authority as being 'in the wrong', 'rigid thinkers' or 'resistant to change'.
Delete0930 don't be silly you are not appreciating the management have tasks alloted and duties to manage . They don't get to choose and not do we . This a job for which you are paid to do as your told . This is not a job that has a democratic vote process to what and when you do what is required. Management don't answer to staff it's the other way around perhaps this is what people do not appreciate.
Deleteahh, silly me.
DeleteProbation celebrated its centenary in 2007 and at that time from memory every service was a gold standard…….then Chris Grayling, the split, the CRS managing medium risk cases that were high risk but which they were not allowed to increase to high, every CPO offered three years protected salary to push the split, the reunification, the abandonment of critical thinking, the Mickey Mouse training (sorry Disney), the new breed of duplicitous CPOs kowtowing to ministers…….from gold standard to the brink of collapse in a generation………makes you think what will come next……
ReplyDeleteIndeed. We told them this would happen in the 2013 special edition of the British Journal of Community Justice is Transforming Rehabilitation: Under the Microscope.
Deletehttps://mmuperu.co.uk/bjcj/volumes/bjcj-volume-11-issue-2-3/
Haha, the penultimate article states:
Delete“ Blogs tend to have their own niche market and I would highlight four which have offered a reasonably comprehensive view of
TR developments, though each with distinctive audiences and ideas. The first is by Jim Brown and the blog is called On Probation. It can be found at
http://probationmatters.blogspot.co.uk. He introduces his blog in this way:
Welcome to the wonderful world of probation! These are the personal thoughts of an ordinary probation officer struggling to come to terms with constant change, whilst trying to do a useful job for society. Sadly, change is
so often obviously not progress. I am fully aware that my views do not represent official policy of government, my Service or possibly anyone else - but hey - it's my blog!
Providing news on an almost daily basis, this blog reports and pulls together information from a variety of sources. It is the one blog that also has an active discussion following each successive release so not only do you get the benefit from the blog itself but you see some of the debate and discussion unfold. This blogger has worked tirelessly to bring every item of news to the attention of the reader on what he dubs this 'omnishambles'!
The blog frequently quotes from other sources thus making it a useful check on whether you have picked up information from a sometimes bewildering array of useful locations - a priceless and tireless contribution.”
COMMUNITY JUSTICE FILES 31
Edited by Nick Flynn, De Montfort University
https://mmuperu.co.uk/bjcj/volumes/bjcj-volume-11-issue-2-3/
Wow - they were the days eh?!!
DeleteHere is somebody trying to force their employer to accept corporate responsibility. Perhaps the probation unions could initiate an action on behalf of their members.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16126673/Veteran-crime-scene-investigator-sues-police-100-000-claiming-dealing-50-murders-year-caused-stress-led-having-stroke.html
they couldn't possibly bite the hand that feeds them.. and a jolly good feast it is too!
DeleteMan serving indefinite sentence for stealing a phone set for release after 21 years in jail
ReplyDeleteHow before some twenty something robot recalls him for jay walking ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kx8zenrz1o
Delete"It's like your son being killed - he's here but he's not."
Leroy Douglas was just 24 when he was jailed in 2005 for stealing a mobile phone and handed a minimum prison term of two-and-a-half years.
More than 20 years later, he is still locked up.
Leroy, who had a drug addiction, had a string of convictions for offences including petty crimes and shoplifting, before being sentenced for robbery and being given an indeterminate sentence of Imprisonment for Public Protection, external (IPP).
His family said this came as a "huge shock" as it meant indefinite detention. Now 45, he is set to be released in October - a decision that came weeks before Prime Minister Andy Burnham announced he would end IPPs before the end of this parliament.
Anthony Douglas said years of waiting had been "torture" for his son and his family as they remained in "limbo" over his future.
He added: "In that time he's lost his daughter, lost his cousin, lost my parents."
Introduced in 2005, IPPs were established to keep serious offenders, who were perceived to be a risk to the public, in prison.
They imposed a minimum sentence for offenders, but no maximum or end date, with criminals having to serve the minimum term before being considered for release by the parole board.
But this is not automatic.
They are also subject to licence conditions which they must follow or risk being recalled to prison once they are released.
IPPs were scrapped in 2012 due to criticism for being handed out for less serious crimes but it was not retrospective, meaning - as of July - there were about 2,400 people still in prison on IPP sentences, according to the United Nations, external.
However, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) said there were 2,271 IPP prisoners in custody, as of 30 June.
The organisation, which wants an end to IPPs, said the sentence "violates serious human rights".
Anthony drew parallels between Leroy's sentence and offenders such as Jeffrey Gaffoor, who murdered Lynette White in one of Wales' most notorious crimes.
Gaffoor was was released from prison in 2025 after serving 21 years for stabbing the 20-year-old to death in 1992.
"Leroy stole a phone, how is it right?"
Human rights lawyer Karen Todner was instrumental in securing Leroy's release as he was one of four prisoners she submitted an application for the writ of Habeas Corpus for.
The writ, which requires a person detained by authorities be brought before a court so the legality of the detention may be examined, resulted in it being agreed their detention was unlawful.
contd
Despite this, Todner, said Leroy's release conditions were "so stringent, his liberty is restricted".
DeleteHis relatives are also unhappy as he will have to spend six months with an electronic tag, housed three hours away from them in Cardiff.
Anthony believes his son is being "set up to fail" as he feels Leroy needs to be around his family for his well being.
"It's like he's being taken out of the frying pan and into the fryer," he said.
Leory's sister Natalie Douglas has launched a petition for to him be housed closer to home, calling on the justice system to correct "part of the years' worth of oversight".
She said his family wanted to welcome him back with open arms and provide "the support system he never had while being lost in this unforgiving system".
"I have a lump in the back of my throat just speaking about it," Anthony said.
"I'm just astounded, 20 years they wouldn't let him out, but they still put conditions on it."
Leroy applied for parole five times while in prison, but was rejected each time due to what his family said was incomplete courses.
While going through addiction in the past, his family said he tested negative for drugs while in prison and did not have a history of violence.
Anthony added: "I want to know why is he being released so far from home, and can't come home to family.
"They're putting him with people from the same environment he's trying to leave behind."
Anthony said he asked the prison for answers about the conditions of his release, but got no response and feels Leroy has been "tortured" for something.
He added: "He went in as a kid and will come out as a man.
"He's going to need counselling, he's suffering from mental pain and been sent away from family."
The MoJ said: "It is right that IPP sentences were abolished and, as the prime minister and lord chancellor announced, we will set out plans to end the historic injustice of these sentences.
"This will take a cross-party approach to propose a way forward with public protection and victims at the heart of these reforms.
"As the IPP annual report shows, support has significantly improved for these offenders, with greater access to rehabilitation and mental health support."
The MoJ said the number of people serving IPP sentences in the community had been cut from 3,018 in December 2023 to 891 in December 2025.
* They are also subject to licence conditions which they must follow or risk being recalled to prison once they are released.
Delete* Human Rights lawyer Todner, said Leroy's release conditions were "so stringent, his liberty is restricted".
* His relatives are also unhappy as he will have to spend six months with an electronic tag, housed three hours away from them in Cardiff... "They're putting him with people from the same environment he's trying to leave behind."
* MoJ said: "As the IPP annual report shows, support has significantly improved for these offenders, with greater access to rehabilitation and mental health support."
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"MoJ said the number of people serving IPP sentences in the community had been cut from 3,018 in December 2023 to 891 in December 2025."
Perhaps because they've been recalled?
Im reading from this: after 20 years locked up we really have no idea whether he poses a risk anymore or not but had obvious support needs: we'll place him in an AP three hours away from his home to "monitor" and "assess" him, assuming that low paid and overstretched keyworkers will do a better job at supporting him, discounting the relevance of family support, while subjecting him to a regime which is geared up to ensure rule breaking results in recall. I just hope the probation officer did a home visit and engaged with the family to assess the suitability of residing at home versus in an institutional setting.
DeleteThe licence menu has been updated and is now offering 16 options over 14 pages:
ReplyDeletehttps://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6aa2d3e2c5796a7a179c66a5/licence-conditions-pf-annex-a.pdf
are community accommodation targets being met?
ReplyDelete"The Community Accommodation Service Tier 2 (CAS‑2) provides temporary accommodation and structured support to eligible men and women in England and Wales – predominantly, those subject to bail conditions or Home Detention Curfew (HDC) – who might otherwise remain in custody due to lack of suitable or available housing. Since October 2022, HM Prison and Probation Service (HMPPS) have contracted delivery of CAS-2 services to social justice charity Nacro.
A process evaluation of CAS-2 was commissioned by HMPPS to assess whether the service was being delivered as intended, in line with expected service standards, and if there were any barriers or enablers to delivery.
This report presents findings from the mixed-methods process evaluation, drawn from a series of property observations and qualitative interviews with CAS-2 stakeholders conducted between June and August 2025, as well as quantitative analysis of CAS-2 monitoring information between April 2023 and March 2025."
"As a service, CAS‑2 demonstrates a clear ability to relieve pressure on the prison estate by providing safe, community‑based accommodation for individuals who would otherwise be held in custody. Analysis of MI data showed that indicative housing outcomes for those who completed a CAS-2 stay were promising, with 43% of those examined during the monitoring period moving onto settled accommodation after departing the service."
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6aa117be5f6e942efe37ef23/community-accommodation-service-tier-2-process-evaluation.pdf
May be useful for some out there?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.gov.uk/government/publications/occupational-health-and-employee-assistance-policy-framework
"This Policy Framework outlines the Occupational Health (OH) and Employee Assistance policy statement, describe the OH and Employee Assistance Programme (EAP) services available to our staff and define the responsibilities of MOJ and HMPPS key stakeholders.
The policy applies to all directly employed MOJ and HMPPS staff who hold an MOJ or HMPPS staff number and, in particular, line managers who will be required to manage and support the health and wellbeing of potential and existing employees fairly and effectively."
What’s his risk ? Probably low hammed up
ReplyDeleteITS ALL BEEN RESOLVED
ReplyDeleteNO NEED TO PANIC Mr MAINWARING
https://www.gov.uk/algorithmic-transparency-records/moj-check-in-with-your-probation-officer-e-supervision
"The Check-In with your probation officer (E-Supervision) service uses AWS Rekognition to support identity verification for individuals on probation completing remote check-ins. The tool is integrated into a digital service that allows users to submit a short video as part of their check-in process.
From this submission, a still image is captured and compared against a reference image held on record. AWS Rekognition performs facial comparison and generates a similarity score indicating the likelihood that the images belong to the same individual. This output is used to support practitioners in assessing whether the correct person is completing the check-in.
The tool is intended for use by probation practitioners and service staff responsible for managing and monitoring compliance with supervision requirements. It is designed to operate as a decision-support tool and does not make autonomous decisions. Practitioners review the output alongside other available information and retain responsibility for the final determination.
The scope of the tool is limited to identity verification within the Check-In with your probation officer service. It is not used for broader surveillance, profiling, or automated enforcement decisions.
The performance of the tool may be affected by factors such as image quality, lighting conditions, and camera positioning. As with many facial recognition technologies, there may be variations in accuracy across different demographic groups. Where results are uncertain or confidence scores are low, additional checks or manual review are required."
No such consideration for the constructive dismissal of hundreds of probation staff
ReplyDeletehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq7703kjvzlpo
"Former top civil servant received pay-off of nearly £860,000
The Cabinet Office's accounts, external show there was "contractual compensation" of £332,897 and "additional severance" of £526,598.
The BBC understands the size of the pay-off was partly to cover Lord Wormald's pension contributions as his removal from office essentially cut his civil service career short."