Probation Pay Offer for 2025-2026 finally received - Napo recommend rejection
Over a year has passed since the Probation trade unions submitted a joint pay claim for 2025-2026, and despite meetings with Government Ministers who failed to deliver on their promise to produce a pay offer by Christmas and after several subsequent complaints, pay negotiations between senior Probation management and the unions resumed last week after a totally inexcusable delay.
Following the conclusion of these, a formal pay offer was received which was immediately considered by your Probation Negotiating Committee (PNC). Napo is a member led union and the role of the PNC as a nationally elected body is to arrive at a recommendation based on the merits of the employers offer. Having done so, the PNC unanimously voted to advise our members to reject this pay offer.
Since then, preparations have been under way by all parties to prepare communications and it has been agreed that these would be issued today.
Employer's pay offer main points
The employer proposes:
- A 4% increase to all pay points and bands
- A 4% increase to the following allowances: London Weighting,Prison Supplement and Standby
- Removing the minimum pay point of Band A to maintain a 5% difference between the maximum point Band 6
Some reasons why you are being asked to reject the offer
It’s an insult
Following a disrespectful delay of over a year since the union claim was submitted, a 4% rise after years of inferior pay rises for Probation staff is an insult. The offer fails to come anywhere near to our original claim of 12% and doesn’t reflect the fact that Government Ministers have praised the huge efforts of Probation Staff in terms of their efforts to deliver Government initiatives, for example on numerous schemes to relieve prison overcrowding, in the midst of an ongoing workload crisis. It’s time that our pay should reflect that fact, and that our pay award should match the words of praise from Ministers and HMPPS senior managers.
Inadequate funding and failure to recognise the rise in the cost of living suffered by our members
This pay offer represents what HMPPS tell us were the results of discussions between HMPPS and other parts of Government (the Treasury and Cabinet Office), including the submission of a business case by the former to increase the total amount it can spend on it's wage bill. It is clear that this has produced a completely unsatisfactory outcome, with a pay offer that falls below the recorded inflation figure for all but one month of 2025. If Napo members reject this pay offer resoundingly the onus will be on the Government to produce an improved pay offer as a matter of urgency.
Comparison
The offer does nothing to move us to a position where our salaries are more comparable to those paid to the other staff working within the criminal justice system (including the Prison Service), local government and the wider Civil Service.
Who makes the decisions?
It's clear that despite the commitment of senior management negotiators, we are not in the room with those who make the final decisions on your pay. Even more reason for the Probation Service to be removed from HMPPS and the restrictions of the Civil Service Pay Remit.
Where's the money going?
The Government can seemingly find money to fund new Prisons and spend huge amounts of money on Electronic Monitoring to private companies unfit for purpose Additionally, we know that there has been an underspend of £100 million by the Probation service in this financial year. Why have we not seen any of it?
Reward and Recognition Schemes
Money that should have been made available to all staff is still squirreled away in schemes that in our view are liable to be operated unfairly and without appropriate transparency.
Geographical Allowances and Market Forces Supplements
The employer has refused to offer any movement whatsoever on the above.
Minimum wage implications
Members at the lowest pay point of Band 2 will, on the first of April 2026 yet again see their salary fall below the minimum wage on April 1st because of the inadequate rise to their payband in this pay offer.
What happens next?
We are finalising arrangements to hold an indicative electronic ballot of all full members of Napo (Probation England and Wales) next week.
Full details of the timetable and how to have your say on the 2025-2026 pay offer will be issued in the next few days, with current plans to launch the ballot next Wednesday (4th of February) with this running until the last week of the month. It is probable that the other Probation unions will consult their respective members over the same period. You are not being asked to vote on industrial action and your decision to accept or reject the pay offer will be personal to yourself. If the offer is rejected, then Napo is mandated to organise a separate statutory postal ballot where you will be asked to agree to take action and action short of strike action.
It is vitally important that you ensure that you have registered your preferred e-mail address on the Napo database and checked that we have your correct home postal address.
If you know of any colleagues who are not a member of a trade union but who are considering joining Napo, it’s important to stress that only members of a trade union will be able to vote in an indicative ballot. All Napo members should do whatever they can to recruit new members as our greatest strength remains in numbers - further information will follow on the 'cut off' date by which new members joining will be able to vote in the ballot on this pay offer after it launches.
Branch meetings
It will be at the discretion of Branches to invite non-union members who may wish to become members of Napo so that they qualify for a vote in the indicative ballot. Branches are asked to avoid holding meetings at the same time as the National meetings listed above.
Napo will be issuing more information imminently in advance of the indicative ballot where you will be asked to vote No to the 2025-2026 pay offer, and you are also urged to take the opportunity to join one of the members meetings to raise questions.
Napo HQ
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2025/26 probation pay offer confirmed
“In announcing the 2025/26 pay offer, I firstly want to acknowledge the time it has taken and thank you for your patience and understanding. I am also acutely aware that this prolonged process happened during a time of significant change and increased pressures on you. Your unwavering commitment to delivering vital services, supporting people on probation, and keeping communities safe represents the very best of public service.
Through concerted efforts and constructive negotiations, we have secured a headline pay award of 4% for 2025/26. In practice, the increase will be far more for many colleagues, following the pay progression paid in June 2025.
This is one of the most generous offers made in public sector pay, which goes well beyond the government's own guidance on how much public sector pay can increase this year.
We now want to help you to work out precisely what this award means for you. Today we’ve outlined the headline numbers, but this is just the start of our engagement with you on the offer. Your input matters. Please don’t miss the chance to understand the offer to make the right decision for you.”
Through concerted efforts and constructive negotiations, we have secured a headline pay award of 4% for 2025/26. In practice, the increase will be far more for many colleagues, following the pay progression paid in June 2025.
This is one of the most generous offers made in public sector pay, which goes well beyond the government's own guidance on how much public sector pay can increase this year.
We now want to help you to work out precisely what this award means for you. Today we’ve outlined the headline numbers, but this is just the start of our engagement with you on the offer. Your input matters. Please don’t miss the chance to understand the offer to make the right decision for you.”
Following the announcement that pay negotiations with trade unions resumed last week, we can confirm the details of our pay offer for probation staff.
What is the offer
The 2025/26 pay offer for all probation staff includes:
- a headline uplift for all probation staff of 4%
- a 4% increase to all cash allowances including London weighting
- an average increase of 3.44% in pay progression paid in June last year to all eligible colleagues
What does this mean for me
The 4% headline uplift will be in addition to progression payments made in June. Through progression, some colleagues have received increases of up to 4.8%, with an average increase across the 10 pay ranges of 3.44%.
This offer is among the biggest increases agreed across the public sector, including the Prison Service Pay Review body's recommendations for prison officers. It goes further than the Civil Service guidance that limits headline awards plus pay progression to 3.25%.
Taking into account pay progression paid in June 2025, and the additional headline uplift confirmed today, then the value of the increase to pay for probation as a whole is 6.3%.
You can find more detail on the impact of this offer on different grades in the pay tables below, including actual amounts and increased pay points. For example, a Band 4 probation officer now at pay point 2 of their pay grade would expect to receive an increase of £1,470 for their 2025/2026 pay award, in addition to any progression pay already received.
Weekly drop-in sessions will begin this Wednesday, 28 January, where you can hear more about this offer and ask questions (see below for sign up details).
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Many will feel these responses from yesterday rather neatly sum things up:-
Let’s be clear about what this actually is:
- A real-terms pay cut, following years of inferior awards
- A confirmation that CBF was always intended to be rolled into and used to cap any future uplift
- A pay offer that fails to match inflation, let alone restore losses
- A settlement that leaves probation less competitive than prisons, local government and the wider Civil Service
- An insult to experienced staff who received no CBF progression and carried the service anyway
- And a political choice, not a financial necessity
Meanwhile:
- £700m is found for tagging
- Billions are found for prisons
- Private contractors remain funded despite being unfit for purpose
- £100m sits underspent in probation
- And staff at the bottom of Band 2 will fall below minimum wage again
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A year’s delay, broken promises, and endless praise for “exceptional effort” and the outcome is 4%. That isn’t recognition. It’s a pay cut dressed up as an offer. Money can be found for prisons, tagging and private contractors, but not for the staff holding the system together. Even now, some will drop below minimum wage next year. That tells you exactly where probation sits in the hierarchy. NAPO's unanimous rejection says this clearly: this isn’t bad luck or fiscal reality it’s a political choice. And it confirms what many already know: probation is expected to absorb risk, blame and damage on the cheap.******
4% is disgusting. Why wait 12 months only to offer us the exact same amount as prison were offered almost immediately? It demonstrates quite clearly where they see us in terms of priorities and value. All the waffle about Probation doing the heavy lifting and the extra stuff they asked from us, then give us such an insulting offer.
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Let’s be clear about where we actually are, because the anger is justified but the process still matters. No one is voting on strike yet. This ballot is about accepting or rejecting the offer. If members reject it, Napo is then legally required to run a separate statutory ballot on industrial action (including action short of strike). That’s not weakness or delay, that’s the law.
What does matter right now is unity. The employer will happily watch us turn on each other – POMs vs COMs, prison vs community – because division does their job for them. This offer didn’t land because of colleagues in other roles. It landed because probation, as a whole, has been deprioritised for 15 years.
If you want to express your opposition:
- Vote to reject.
- Engage with the union consultation.
- Challenge management narratives that call this a “good offer”.
- Stop donating goodwill.
*****
So when the system decides a role is important, money appears quickly and without drama. JAC chairs get a 30% uplift “to reflect the demands of the role”. Judges receive 7%, then 6%, then 7% again, explicitly to protect recruitment and quality. Treasury objections melt away when the work is seen as valuable and the risk of failure is politically uncomfortable.
Probation doesn’t get that treatment. After a year of delay, we’re offered 4% — below inflation — while being told it’s “good value” and should be welcomed. That isn’t economics. It’s hierarchy. Some roles are protected. Others are expected to absorb decline quietly.
And this is exactly why the blue-on-blue arguments are a distraction. POMs, COMs, VLOs didn’t design this system or set these pay priorities. The contempt runs upwards, not sideways. Division just makes it easier to keep doing this to us again next year.
The message is simple and consistent: probation work is praised rhetorically, but priced as expendable. Until that contradiction is confronted collectively, the pattern won’t change and the figures already tell us everything we need to know.
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This is exactly the sleight of hand people are calling out. CBF progression was already costed, agreed and paid in June under the existing three-year deal. It was not new money, not a concession, and not part of this year’s negotiation. Folding it back in now to inflate the headline figure is double-counting.The only new money on the table for 2025/26 is the 4% headline uplift. Everything else being cited – the “average 6.3%”, the “generosity”, the comparison with other sectors – relies on re-labelling progression that staff had already earned and already received.
That’s why the offer feels dishonest. If the deal were genuinely 6.3%, it would be paid as 6.3% to everyone. It isn’t. For anyone at the top of their band, or anyone who didn’t receive progression, this is a flat 4% after a year-long delay, backdated and paid a year late.
Calling this one of the “most generous offers in the public sector” doesn’t make it so. It’s an accounting exercise designed to mask a below-inflation rise by recycling money that was never in dispute. And staff are right to be angry about it.
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This isn’t spin, it’s gaslighting. The only new money in this deal is the 4% headline uplift. Everything else being claimed – the “average 3.44%”, the “total 6.3%”, the talk of generosity is money already agreed, already costed and already paid last June under a previous deal. Recycling that progression to inflate the headline is double-counting. If this were really a 6.3% pay rise, everyone would be getting 6.3%. They aren’t. For anyone at the top of their band, this is just 4% after a year-long delay, below inflation and paid late. Staff aren’t angry because they don’t understand the maths, they’re angry because they do.
It’s it’s 4% this year it will be lower next they should offer a two year deal
ReplyDeleteCan anyone tell me what napos staff and GS latest pay rises were taking account of inflation please. I would like to see how they compare to us.
DeleteThe correct comparison is with unions of a similar size. The Napo officials unions are the ones who negotiate their pay with their employers who are the officers that members elect. They are not members of Napo nor would want to be. Worth remembering that the people we elected who appointed the current official group are no longer the same people and knowing what they know would not reappoint them.
DeleteThe figures have been posted before but, for the benefit of @10:35 above, here are the last 3 napo :submissions
DeleteGS salary from AR21 for 2024 was £103,921 + £16,292 pension contributions: tot = £120,213
GS salary from AR21 for 2023 was £97,062 + £16,292 pension contributions: tot = £113,355
GS salary from AR21 for 2022 was £92,463 + £16,103 pension contributions: tot = £108,566
Gross uplift of ~£11,500 over 3 years.
Compare & contrast:
Computer says: "In 2022, Probation Officer salaries in the UK typically ranged from approximately £26,000 for trainees (PQiP) to over £35,000 for qualified, experienced officers"
Also: "In 2023, probation officer salaries in the UK typically started around £26,475–£30,208 for trainees, rising to over £35,130 upon qualification."
And: "In 2024–2026, UK probation officer salaries typically start at £26,475 during training, rising to over £35,130 upon qualifying"
This is contempt, not negotiation. Calling this “one of the most generous offers in public sector pay” is absolutely an insult, and pure spin to dress up an inadequate deal. We’re being misled and manipulated, while unions are neither in the room nor even unified, with only Napo calling it out. If history repeats itself, our leaders will soon be pressuring the workforce to accept the unacceptable at every opportunity. This moment will expose exactly who the top brass really are.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile:
- £700m is found for tagging
- £Billions are found for prisons
- Unfit private contractors remain funded
- £100m sits underspent in probation
I’ll be voting against it - it’s an insult
ReplyDeleteIt will not be rejected and people will cross the picket line , the employer knows this hence the offer there is no collectivity as the workforce as been dumb downed and us less educated
ReplyDeleteMaybe or because Napo just spout same old having already winked at employers saying they'll get sorted.
DeleteI agree, the old guard who fought,resisted and highlighted the anomaly that is probation pay have largely gone now, the threat of AI and the resurgence of private companies which promise much and deliver less is once again on the march, while there are few exceptions, the message from management ( while they trouser regular bonuses) is JFDI…….
DeleteWhy you think train drivers and teachers for example get rises ? Because they have a solid United workforce who will take action ,NAPO can’t work if its members are docile Thats the crux.
ReplyDeleteNo Napo don't function properly. Lawrence likes the blister has never been able to demonstrate any intelligent cohesive strategy. His job is to pretend while he couldn't get his finger up his nose straight let alone really do that job. The fact he is still there say all it needs to about probation staff acceptance. We have got what we deserve unless we put the moron please NEC get rid .
DeleteAnd here lies the problem.
ReplyDelete“Dear GMB SCOOP Members
Pay Offer 2025/26
Following the last round of pay negotiations management put forward a final offer of a 4% increase on pay and all pay related allowances. Full details of the offer will be published by HMPPS today.
We share your frustration that it has taken this long to reach this position. Throughout the process, we have been pushed hard for an offer that reflects both the cost of living pressures you continue to face and the commitment you show every day.
Whilst the offer is not as high as we hoped we believe it to be the best we can achieve via negotiation and we have used every opportunity to press management to move further.”
So basically, roll over and die. That's shocking
Deletejust searched for newest 'probation' entry on unison site:
Deletehttps://www.unison.org.uk/news/2026/01/police-reforms-must-not-weaken-local-services-says-unison/
Let’s not pretend this isn’t a problem. When NAPO says “reject” and GMB/SCOOP says “best we can get”, it sends a clear signal and it’s not one that helps staff.
ReplyDeleteProbation pay bargaining is fragmented across unions representing very different roles and pressures, but the employer gets to hide behind a single, sanitised “workforce average”. That division suits management perfectly. It always has.
Accepting this offer doesn’t just lock in a poor deal for this year it sets the benchmark for the next one. It tells Treasury and HMPPS that probation will swallow delay, spin and below-inflation rises as long as they’re packaged with enough noise about “averages” and “progression”.
Once that precedent is set, next year’s offer will be worse, not better. This is how decline becomes permanent: one compromised acceptance at a time.
Good post GMB is made up of ex senior managers which has never really fielded real trade unionist. These people who join the negotiating meetings are ex seniors who always resolve for a small membership but their stupidity impacts on us as you say. The quality of union officials is poor they are usually ex po grade and not capable of the role apart from nodding.
DeleteMisleading and inadequate. Disrespectful to the already overworked probation staff who have taken on so much more work as they try to empty the prisons. So glad I’m coming to the end of my career, I’ve never felt so undervalued.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Staff have absorbed extra work, higher risk and political pressure to relieve prisons, only to be told a year later that 4% is “generous”. That gap between what’s asked of probation and how it’s valued is exactly why experienced people are disengaging or leaving. The service is bleeding institutional memory, and offers like this accelerate it.
Deletehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/morrisons-staff-pay-dispute-government-costs-usdaw-b2907825.html?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-gb
ReplyDelete"Morrisons is locked in a pay dispute with staff after informing workers it does not intend to offer substantial wage increases this year. The union alleges that the retailer has declined to propose any pay rise beyond the statutory national living wage.
In the UK, the national living wage for individuals aged 21 and over currently stands at £12.21 per hour, with an increase of 4.1 per cent to £12.71 scheduled for April.
Concurrently, the minimum wage for workers between 18 and 20 will rise by 8.5 per cent to £10.85 per hour."
Even the national living wage is rising by 4.1% for those aged over 21... £12.71/hour ~ £24,454 a year.
"In 2024–2026, UK probation officer salaries typically start at £26,475 during training", i.e. approx.£38 a week more than the nat living wage.
This comparison is uncomfortable, but it matters. When a professional public protection role ends up only marginally above the national living wage it tells you where probation now sits in the pay hierarchy. A 4% uplift doesn’t reverse that drift, it normalises it. Once a role is allowed to hover just above minimum wage, it becomes far easier for government to treat it as expendable rather than skilled.
DeleteLet’s stop pretending this is generosity. This offer locks in the idea that probation will accept below-inflation pay as the norm, every time, provided it’s wrapped in enough accounting tricks and delayed long enough to exhaust people. Accepting this doesn’t just settle this year it sets the ceiling for the next one.
ReplyDeleteThis is how pay erosion becomes permanent: reset expectations low, wait out the anger, call survival “success”, then repeat. Anyone calling this a good deal is not thinking about next year, or the year after. They’re thinking about getting through the noise. That short-term thinking is exactly why we keep ending up here.
This isn’t a bad offer because people are ungrateful. It’s a bad offer because it normalises decline and once that’s accepted, it doesn’t come back.
Speaking as a practitioner, I’m hearing the same conversations in the office that I’ve heard for years. People are exhausted. They’re worn down by the delays, the uncertainty, the constant holding pattern. Some will accept this not because they think it’s fair or generous, but because they need the money and they’re too tired to fight anymore. The backdated lump sum becomes the focus, not the percentage, and management know that. This isn’t new. Pay negotiations are dragged out for months, usually timed to land just before Christmas to secure acceptance. This time it’s been stretched even longer, and it’s hard not to conclude that the delay itself is part of the strategy: wear people down, drain the anger, and let fatigue do the work that persuasion can’t.
ReplyDeleteSo this needs to be said directly to those who actually decide probation pay. This workforce is not confused, ungrateful or unrealistic. It is exhausted and being managed through attrition, delay and spin. Repeatedly offering below-inflation settlements after prolonged negotiations doesn’t reflect affordability, it reflects priorities. You know probation cannot switch off, cannot walk away from risk, and will keep going out of professional duty. That is being exploited. Each delayed, inadequate offer deepens the damage to morale, retention and safety, and then you act surprised when experience walks out the door. If you want probation to stabilise, stop relying on fatigue to secure acceptance and start paying people what the role actually demands.
ReplyDeleteAs I wrote some weeks ago, there are countless civil service vacancies in all areas. I have family and friends who work in other departments and none of them report being treated so badly.
Probation is fast becoming a stepping stone appointment for recent graduates to make their CV look good then they wisely bale out.
Anyone who has transferable skills should look to the exit.
Sadly, this rings true and that in itself says everything about where probation now sits. the consequence of that isn’t neutral.
ReplyDeleteWhen probation becomes a revolving door for graduates and short-term staff, the loss isn’t just personal, it’s professional. Public protection, consistency and trust all depend on experience. Treating exit as the rational choice may be understandable, but it’s also an indictment of a system that is content to hollow itself out rather than fix the conditions that drive people away.
Probation shouldn’t be a CV-builder, it should be a career but careers are protected with pay, and this offer proves probation isn’t.
The response from GMB is poor . The three unions should stand together and recommend members reject the offer ! After I have cast my vote I am leaving GMB union - I want a union who will fight for me and my conditions - not roll over and have it’s belly tickled go oh well that’s the best we can expect at the first hurdle .
DeleteI haven’t even been qualified that long and it’s already obvious how little this role is valued. The responsibility is huge, the expectations are constant, and the rhetoric is endless but when it comes to pay, we’re treated as disposable. Being told this is a “generous” offer after a year of waiting is demoralising. It makes you question whether staying makes sense, not because the work doesn’t matter, but because the organisation clearly doesn’t value the people doing it. If this is what recognition looks like early on, it’s no surprise people don’t stay.
ReplyDeleteTo anyone joining or thinking of staying: this is the model. Delay, praise, underpay, repeat. Acceptance locks it in for the future. Probation isn’t treated as a career to retain it’s treated as a workforce to exhaust and replace.Go in with your eyes open because this system will take your goodwill first and your pay second.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad I'm not a member of GMB poop-a-scoop. No way will I accept a 4% payrise.
ReplyDeleteI’ve joined NAPO this evening so that I can vote against after 23 years of not feeling the need to join.
ReplyDeleteAll any of us can do is join if we are not already members, vote against and support any work to rule or strike action
The worst we can do is say that individually we can’t make a difference and just roll over and get shafted yet again
Apparently, "generous" equates to 0.75%!?
ReplyDeleteWhen are we expected to hear from the unions to reject this insult of a pay offer?
ReplyDeleteNAPO are recommending to reject. GMB seem to be waving the white flag and saying we won't get more. Not seen anything for UNISON.
DeleteI think HMPPS have been surprised by the lack of protest at the pay offer. Lack of support by the workers for unions has caused the delay. Refuse to use laptops for a day or two. It’s a negotiation not a take it or leave it. Refuse the offer. Go on strike and get a better offer. There is another offer ready for 6%. Take the new offer. No more words. Action. 😉🤲
DeleteThe rub is, professional pay, is an award for professional people
ReplyDeleteIt really dosent matter what your workload is, it's about what your achieving.
Given that every report on probation says it's failing, why should you expect any pay rise at all?
Its failing, it's broken, it's a mess. It's destructive. It traps people in the CJS, and that's dosent deserve a pay rise. Why would it?
I don't want my tax funding this type of service. The way it is, it's a minimum wage job.
I see great value in a probation service, but if it wants to structure itself on the USAs ICE ethos then I don't want it.
'Getafix
Probation isn’t failing because staff aren’t achieving enough it’s failing because the conditions make achievement structurally impossible. You don’t fix a service under strain by cutting the value of the people holding the risk. That logic would collapse the NHS, courts and policing overnight. Pay isn’t a reward for perfection; it’s how you retain competence in a high-risk public function.
DeleteThe history of the decline & fall of probation is well documented since 1980's, getafix. The last decade has merely been the fine tuning of the nature of the death of probation - the sharpening of the knife, the tightening of the noose, the removal of evidence.
Deletegrayling/romeo/copple, the complicit ministers & the judiciary - and those other totally forgetteable shitweasels involved in reducing probation services to puddles of piss - have committed what history will show to have been a serious mistake.
They've elevated the criminal class to a position of power by granting them status - dangerousness. The risk industry has thrived on the fear of danger... the incarceration industry has thrived on removing danger... and probation has been coralled into becoming the state's arbiters of risk, providing the evidence for dangerousness via risk assessment & passively assuming the role of victimologists.
Now the prisons are full of risky people. How can they be safely released? They're all "oh so risky". So everyone's pissing their pants & no-one can make a decision that the fearmongers in power can accept. Result? Puddles of piss everywhere.
Solution from the cobbler & co - automate the whole bally lot, remove the human error & reward those who backed the algorithm with £££££££'s.
That fucker danny clarke & his psychobabble chums started this dystopian nightmare with oasys - a perfectly reasonable idea (i.e. a common risk assessment tool) which was exploited & abused by power-hungry control-freaks with palantir-style ambition.
The pqips will cross the picket line as fast as shi@ of a shovel
ReplyDeleteWe will never get more than 4 because strike action does not have the immediate public effect that a train driver / teacher strike has. There needs to be an alternative I.e refusal to complete PSRs when requested, refusal to attend breach courts, refusal to take on new allocations, refusal to complete external forms / compile licences. This will impact performance and ministers will have to take action as this will ultimately impact their performance.
ReplyDeleteThat’s the most honest point raised. Probation’s leverage isn’t public spectacle it’s operational dependency. When allocation stops, PSRs slow, breaches pause and licence churn backs up, the political pressure appears very quickly. But none of that works unless rejection is collective and disciplined.
DeleteWork to rule would bring the system down!
ReplyDeleteI agree , work to rule would be more effective than strike - no more TOIL
DeleteOh and I’m looking for a new job as I’ve had enough
DeleteI really do support the probation service, but it's current model and the way it works??
ReplyDeleteIt dosent do anything good. Its tasked with keeping people locked into the CJS. It should be about diverting people away or exiting the CJS.
The service has gone bad. It is a stepping stone, it's got fuck all about the people it works with anymore.
I know people qork hard , extra hours, stress, and the impact that has on personal life.
But.. What has those extra hours achieved? What difference has it made to someone's life?
That's what its all about isn't it,
Amazing people doing amazing things?
'Getafix
no-one can doubt your support for what was the probation service, getafix - you post & search & research & post & contribute & stimulate discussion & provoke debate - but... the system doesn't give a fuck regardless of however many here & elsewhere:
Delete* make their feelings felt
* risk being id'd with tales of slogging their guts out
* lobby MPs
* attract the support of ian gould
* try to catch the eye of martin jones
* cry themselves dry
Truly amazing people DO do truly amazing things, usually without recognition because its just something they do as part of their daily life. Its routine.
Utter arseholes make a fuss about fuck-all and convince their well-connected chums that its "trooly amayyzing" and they get made dame or knight. Its a one-off, and mostly a crock of utter shyte.
This offer landed at 4% because the employer believes exhaustion will beat solidarity. Whether they’re right depends entirely on what staff do next.
ReplyDeleteNothing that's what Napo couldn't plan a toilet break on time let alone understand pay. Ian Lawrence has no clue on grade rates po . Worse he just poached unison calculations on pay spines. Re printed on Napo headed. Cretinous however we don't need him or Napo we need a real leader in a pay rejection dispute. Lawrence is looking to go next time and want a gong. Idiot. He will get one too for all the selling out he's done to us. If we had some able officers he should have been suspended a long time back
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ReplyDeleteWhen a woman reported an allegation of rape against a serving police officer, she found herself in the dock, charged with perverting the course of justice. File on 4 Investigates hears how she went from being a potential victim to a suspect accused of lying.
Over the past decade, hundreds of rape complainants in England and Wales have been investigated for making false allegations. The programme examines when and why the justice system turns on those who come forward, and asks whether the safeguards meant to protect potential victims are being properly applied.
I will be voting reject. Job app for nhs in hand. This is the final straw after several decades of service. All staff wake up, pay has been below inflation for 15 years. This is the time to say no. This will continue otherwise based on past evidence. Your wages will suffer, your mental health and final pension.
ReplyDeleteGood reply if every Napo member offered resignation letters to resign pending a new appointment on my replacement they would have to rethink pay. No point in a Napo fight they are weak pathetic led my a fool . We need solid brave risky action. Just imaging a couple of thousand resignations over pay . I know they earn more in Costa coffee and hour than a basic rate pso. Who take this crap.
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