Thursday, 25 June 2026

Profession or Job?

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‘Can Probation call itself a profession in 2026 or is it just a job?‘ 

I would argue it is now no longer a Profession if it ever was. The profession died when the service was assimilated by the Civil Service which is a Profession that contains professions such as Policy, Project Management etc but Probation or Prison Officer are occupations not professions. If for instance we were all members of professional institutes that licences and regulated our practice then it would be a different matter. Licences to practice are meaningless if given by the sole employer of a job role who would never employ someone unless they had relevant qualifications or were working towards a relevant qualification. Being a professional involves not only having:

A Specialised Body of Knowledge: Access to the occupation is barred without extensive, highly specialised academic training and intellectual instruction. It cannot be learned through a brief apprenticeship or casual trial-and-error.

A Social Contract and Public Trust: Professions are granted a degree of monopoly and status by society because they provide a vital public service (e.g., healthcare, justice, structural safety). In return, they are expected to prioritise public welfare over pure commercial gain.

Autonomy and Self-Regulation: True professions largely govern themselves. They establish their own professional bodies (such as a Bar Council, Medical Board, or Engineering Council) that set entry requirements, define standards of practice, and handle disciplinary actions.

An Enforceable Code of Ethics: Professions maintain strict, formalised ethical frameworks. Violating these codes does not just look bad-it can result in a tribunal stripping the individual of their licence to practise ("striking off" or disbarment).

Monitored Standards of Entry and CPD: Entrance requires passing rigorous, objective assessments. Once inside, members must usually demonstrate Continuous Professional Development (CPD) to maintain their legal or formal right to practise.

In short, an occupation becomes a profession only when it moves from a job anyone can try, to a regulated discipline that requires a licence, an oath, and a high level of public accountability with professional indemnity. How is Probation then more than just an occupation and in fact more like a profession? If anything it looks less like a profession than it has ever done. We are at best pseudo civil servants specialising in working with offenders but on less money.

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  1. Poor Police is the role

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    1. Then you agree Probation is no longer a profession. Psychologists working in Probation call themselves a profession and and some cases see themselves as having more professional authority than Probation Officers who used to be officers of the court and produce a wider range of reports and act as guardian ad litem etc. Nowadays it is just a job anyone with a basic education could do. Do those working in job centres or as drugs workers consider themselves to be members of a profession? It is not listed as a distinct profession for government purposes as we are civil servants. That is our profession not Probation. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/confirming-identity-countersignatory-and-digital-referees/confirming-id-referees#recognised_professions

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  2. You cannot be a profession if all of your members are in the civil service and bound by the civil service code, it's simply not possible. A profession must be able to debate and critique policy. We are censored by our policies and are not allowed to do so.

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  3. “We are at best pseudo civil servants specialising in working with offenders”

    With all the ai, directives and targets forced upon probation I don’t think we are “specialising” in anything any more.

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  4. Baroness Hilton of Eggardon: The current Home Office proposals for probation officer recruitment and training are but another example of that approach, based on prejudice and simplistic stereotypes of social workers, probation officers, magistrates and criminals. An example of the Home Secretary's thought processes is the speech that he made last week in which he said:

    ""Retired Army officers … understand the need for discipline and they won't stand any nonsense. That's exactly what offenders need!"."

    As the noble Baroness, Lady Seear, said in her powerful speech, he should realise that it requires considerable expertise, knowledge of psychology, sociology and experience in the field to be an effective probation officer.


    Lord Bancroft: The report says that the service needs to recruit mature people with a breadth of experience... and records that the majority of the 1993 entrants were over the age of 30 and 42 per cent, had previous careers in a wide variety of occupations... It is repeatedly implied that the diploma in social work course is not all that relevant to the needs of the modern probation service. That is manifestly untrue.


    Lord Walpole: My experience is that about 40 per cent. of those who come before the courts and are convicted need help, not punishment. That is when I turn to the probation service. Indeed, I have turned many times to the local probation service in Norfolk where I have received the most enormous help. I have not found the social services to be something airy-fairy. It is obvious to me that probation officers need a strong social service attitude. It is also obvious to me that what is most important is, as the right reverend Prelate said, the relationship between probation officers and their clients... The work of probation officers must be based on mutual respect, fairness and commitment to both helping their clients and getting them into a frame of mind such that they want to help themselves. That is what the training is supposed to be about. That work must be kept quite separate from punishment. Punishment is not the job of the probation service. Under that heading, perhaps I should add that tagging has nothing to do with the probation service either.


    The Earl of Mar and Kellie: I have done offender work in Scotland for many years, serving, among other tasks, as a probation supervisor, a social inquiry report writer, a community service by offenders supervisor, a prison social worker, an aftercare licence supervisor and a project worker on an intensive probation project—that is, a 20-day group work project run by SACRO. I should confirm that probation work in Scotland is incorporated in social work departments and is not a separate service. However, we have separate offender specialists within our one-door approach to social care... I attended an experimental three-year diploma in social work course in Scotland, following a year as a community service volunteer... I went to 16 different supervised practical placements during those three years, covering youth clubs, social work departments, residential homes and a Borstal... I was very keen, but far too young [not quite 20 years of age] ... I am glad that the age of entry to social work courses has been raised. Experience of adult life is an essential prerequisite to effective social work, as is knowledge of the many different cultures and lifestyles of our citizens. Secondly, I am glad to have had a broad social policy education which includes economics, sociology, psychology, the organisation of central and local government, housing, education, health, leisure and recreation, among other things... criminal justice social workers need to be knowledgeable about how our society organises itself. Only with that knowledge base will they be able to help offenders to keep to the terms of their orders...

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/1995-04-05/debates/b24530f4-debf-42f8-b1b5-d6f8d3431e69/ProbationOfficersRecruitmentAndTraining

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  5. I think the defining feature of a profession isn’t just a register, a licence or a professional institute. It is trust in professional judgement.

    A doctor is expected to exercise clinical judgement. A solicitor exercises legal judgement. A social worker exercises professional judgement. Their employers can set policies, but they are not expected to abandon their expertise simply because a target or spreadsheet says otherwise.

    Probation once operated in much the same way. We were trained to assess, analyse, challenge, motivate and exercise discretion. We were expected to justify our decisions, not simply follow a prescribed process. Professional judgement was valued because every individual and every case was different.

    What has happened over the last decade is the gradual replacement of judgement with compliance. Risk tools, mandatory processes, performance targets, scripted interventions, centralised instructions and endless assurance activity have steadily narrowed practitioners’ ability to exercise independent judgement. Increasingly the question isn’t “What do you think is the right professional response?” but “Have you followed the process?”

    That is the hallmark of an occupation becoming bureaucratised rather than professionalised.

    The irony is that when something goes wrong, HMPPS still expects us to carry the accountability of professionals. Serious Further Offences, complaints, inquests and inspections all focus on the decisions made by individual practitioners. Yet those same practitioners are given progressively less autonomy over workloads, resources, priorities and even how they practise.

    You cannot have it both ways. Either trust practitioners to be professionals or accept responsibility for reducing them to administrators working within centrally prescribed systems.

    For me, probation didn’t stop being a profession because it joined the Civil Service. It stopped feeling like one when professional judgement became subordinate to process, targets and organisational self-protection.

    The saddest part is that many of the people entering probation today have never experienced what genuine professional autonomy looked like. They are being trained to work in a system where compliance is rewarded more than critical thinking, and that should concern everyone who cares about public protection.

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  6. No fees non professionals . No independence no authority no self determination . This is an office based job simple as pre defined outcomes make decisions irrelevant. It is better paid conditions than private sector.

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  7. I've been a PO for 20 odd years, I honestly have never cared whether it's a profession or 'just' a job (which seems a bit snobby), I just wanted it to be a career and to do the best I could within it's obviously limitations and get through to pension age without too many SFOs and with as many success stories I could. The shite surrounding us being forced to become registered PO's which basically gives us a new badge and email signature is just one of the many useless things that have happened in my years!

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  8. Depending on your grade……anything above a four is a profession least that’s how they like to portray themselves whereas anything up to four has become a wage slave, no autonomy, don’t think for yourself, and obey your masters being the order of the day….

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    1. People do not come to probation for advice guidance or freedom of choice. The money we get paid is a wage non professional services we offer are not part of a chartered structure. Just shit old probation directives.

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  9. https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/probation-release-serious-caller-prisoners-5HjdcDS_2/

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    1. Good for Julie, we have tags so everything will be fine "sigh"

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    2. No spin here, just cold reporting of the facts so should be worth a listen, eh? (hahaha):

      "Thousands of killers and sex offenders to be released early - as Justice Minister insists 'robust' community packages in place.

      Matthew hears from caller Julie, who's a probation officer in Manchester on the topic...

      ... Probation officer Julie reacts to scheme set to release serious offenders early."

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    3. What a pointless interview. Our Julie gave the party line that releasing prisoners early is “protecting the public” then admitted dangerous rapists will be released by mistake., before running off because she has a “thing to goto”. Hahaha

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    4. Isn't it just the perfect analogy for the current iteration of probation service provision in England & Wales?

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  10. Shocking interview. “Julie” a 23 year in Probation Officer explaining prison overcrowding needs to reduced by probation picking up the slack, and “Probation works” because everyone will be electronically tagged. Doesn’t sound like any 23 year in PO I know!

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  11. And it used to be a profession now it’s just a job. Two probation articles on 5000 early releases and burnout

    Alarms, escape doors, thank you gifts: life as a probation officer
    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/alarms-escape-doors-thank-you-gifts-life-as-a-probation-officer-nb9xpcp3j

    Burnout Is Not a Personal Failure...
    Ray Priestley Pg 32
    https://www.probation-institute.org/news/probation-quarterly-issue-40

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    1. Great piece by Ray Priestley who acted as a mentor to me around 20 years ago and many others. If you are reading Ray, you helped a lot.

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    2. Good articles, the one about Menopause in the female dominated Probation Service potentially at fault for over risking offenders and reducing focus on rehabilitation is interesting, although I cant see any current female PO's or SPO's etc admitting this.

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  12. I joined probation in the early 2000s, when the service still operated under Trust status, and I genuinely thought I'd found something worth dedicating myself to. There was time back then. Time to sit with someone, get to know them, understand what was actually going on in their life, and try to do something useful with that. It wasn't easy work, but it was real work, and it produced real results often enough to keep you believing in it. That's not what it is anymore.
    What it's become is a production line. Targets, process, bureaucracy piled on top of more bureaucracy, until the actual job, the bit that matters, has been all but squeezed out. Professional judgement isn't just undervalued now, it's barely tolerated. Officers are so tied up in tick-boxes and data input that there's no room left to do anything that could genuinely be called rehabilitation. You can't change someone's life trajectory in a 10 minute rushed appointment designed to satisfy a data target. Is probation still a profession. I would argue that for the vast majority of practitioners, the simple answer would be a firm NO!

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    1. trusts didn't come into being until 2007/8.

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    2. Boards, thank you for the correction, but the sentiment of my post remains.

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    3. i guess 2007/8 could be called "the early 2000's" now we're in the mid-2020's, & counting...

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  13. The truth,such as it is, is the fear of a prolonged hot summer into August which will lead to further unrest in the prison system, on a recent visit to a Cat B during a hot day the tension between staff and prisoners was palpable…..the trade off is that if they have been released it’s the probation services fault, not that of the prison system if anything goes wrong, this is clearly placing the public at an increased risk of harm being caused but don’t worry, the patsys are already in place….they have found a use for us at last on which the politicians all agree……step forward …His Majesties prison and probation scapegoat service

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  14. "Resident doctors in England have voted to accept the government's offer on pay and jobs, bringing an end to three years of strikes."

    Interest has been waning, just as the govt had hoped, until a jaded profession finally caved in.

    "The offer includes a 3.5% pay rise this year, as recommended by an independent review body. Resident doctors will get backdated pay to 1 April 2026, worth an average increase of 4.9% under the wider package, according to government. The pay rise would grow to an average 6.6% by April 2027, with a further ​increase to follow, the union ​said.
    It means starting salaries will be just over £40,000... "

    The boring stats:

    June 2026: 53% of eligible British Medical Association members voted in favour in a referendum. The turnout was 57%, with 32,932 doctors voting.

    Meaning approx 30% of eligible BMA members voted for the deal.

    Feb 2026: the BBC reported that "some 93% of BMA members voted in favour of continuing with the dispute, with the turnout at 53%." Presumably they meant 93% of the 53% who voted, so that would actually have been approx 49% of BMA members voting for industrial action.

    In 2024... Junior doctors in England have overwhelmingly voted in favour (98%) of extending their mandate for industrial action over pay for another six months, meaning that they can now strike up to 19 September, the BMA has announced. Nearly 34,000 doctors (62%) voted in the ballot... around 10 000 fewer than last August’s turnout of 43,440 (71.25%)."

    So the turnout in August 2023 was 71%.

    The turnout reduced to 62% in 2024 - when approx 61% of eligible members voted for industrial action.

    Successive govts managed to whittle the numbers down to 30% of eligible members voting in favour of the deal.

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  15. Previous governments wanted a managerialism focused approach and that has been taken up by two tier and his successor Manchester Man (I use the term loosely). Professional judgement and autonomy to manage caseloads has gone and big brother/sister/hedgehog/rabbit/ pineapple or whatever they wish to identify as, has come along and you will be locked to your keyboard, monitor and phone. Gone are the days of coffee at the local cafe, meeting up after finishing work or visiting a place of work, even home visits are more monitored than the probation budget! The service has gone down the pan and unfortunately it will never return and we will never get professional status because it costs too much to provide ‘decent’ academic input and a minimum of an MSc to be listened to. Probation Officers know your place!

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  16. The issue isn’t whether probation is a profession or a job. It’s whether HMPPS actually wants it to be a profession.

    Professional status brings obligations. It requires employers to trust expertise, encourage challenge, support independent judgement and accept that experienced practitioners will sometimes disagree with centrally imposed processes. That can be uncomfortable for large organisations driven by targets, consistency and political scrutiny.

    What we have instead is a system where discretion is steadily reduced, compliance is measured in extraordinary detail, and practitioners are expected to justify every deviation from process. Yet when something goes catastrophically wrong, it is suddenly the individual practitioner’s “professional judgement” that is examined.

    That is an impossible contradiction.

    The organisation appears to want the reassurance of professional accountability without accepting the conditions that allow professionalism to exist.

    Perhaps the greatest loss isn’t today’s profession, but tomorrow’s. Professional judgement isn’t something you acquire on the day you qualify. It develops through experience, reflective supervision, meaningful CPD, constructive challenge and the confidence to make difficult decisions. Those skills need time and trust to grow.

    If practitioners spend their careers in a system that rewards compliance over critical thinking, measures process more closely than practice, and leaves little space for reflection or professional curiosity, those capabilities don’t simply lie dormant, they gradually erode. For new practitioners, they may never fully develop at all.

    That should concern all of us, because the greatest safeguard to the public has never been another checklist or another mandatory process. It has always been experienced practitioners who know when the process is no longer enough and have the confidence to act on their professional judgement.

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    1. "For new practitioners, they may never fully develop at all."

      Suggested edit:

      "New practitioners will never be allowed to develop those skills"

      ?why? Because even the briefest glimmer of one scintilla of anything remotely resembling independent or creative thought will generate fear & resentment, leading to a spitfeul reaction from 'the centre'.

      see also: performance related pay, deletion of terms & conditions, removal of allowances, withholding pay, bullying, coercive & controlling managerialism, cronyism, workload overload, dissolution of role boundaries...

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  17. I think it boils down to the question, why are us Officers now monitored and controlled more than our Pops are!? I wouldn't be surprised if we found out we all had secret RMPs written on us by our SPOs..

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    1. No, they don’t know how to write one !

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    2. Has to be said tho many legacy pos are just not credible in today's delivery. Some colleagues still taking the absolute piss for extended terms like having a10 year menopause or something else that required time off cold rooms and anything else they can grab. Ridiculous sort of people spoil work for the rest of us and now everything is proscribed ..

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    3. What do you mean ..legacy POs and why aren’t they credible ? That’s. Also rather a discriminatory remark about people with menopause. - what with peri menopause, menopause and post menopause, people may well symptoms that last ten years

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  18. Even more basic failures to do anything at all by hmpps.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6942703e36f089d38be1f1c4/Liverpool_Prison_action_plan_-_Dec_2025.pdf

    Continuously high levels of sickness
    absence among staff prevented the delivery
    of a consistent and full regime.

    The supply of illicit items including drugs
    and mobile phones remained a significant
    threat to the prison.

    The positive rate for random mandatory
    drug testing was the highest of any
    reception prison at 46%.

    There had been seven self-inflicted deaths
    since the previous inspection and rates of
    self-harm were high.

    Living conditions for some prisoners were
    poor. A lack of effective maintenance by the
    facilities contractor exacerbated this.

    Leaders had been too slow to design
    creative, ambitious and well-structured
    curriculum, suitable for the prison’s
    function.

    Senior leaders did not have an effective
    oversight of the quality of education, skills
    and work activities, nor manage the
    education provider effectively enough.

    Leaders were taking far too long to rectify
    the issues of low attendance and
    punctuality at education and work.

    New arrivals often waited far too long in
    reception holding rooms waiting to be seen
    by staff and health care professionals, with
    little to occupy their time.

    Too few prisoners benefitted from key work,
    and the sessions that did take place lacked
    sufficient quality. Key work did not support
    sentence progression.

    Not all patients requiring transfer to hospital
    under the Mental Health Act were
    transferred within the national guideline
    expectation of 28 days.

    Prisoners spent too much time locked in
    their cells. The regime at weekends was
    particularly poor

    Leaders had not implemented an effective
    reading strategy to support prisoners who
    could not read...

    Public protection arrangements were still
    not sufficiently robust. Some prisoners with
    clear risks had either not been assessed
    promptly or, in some cases, not assessed
    at all.

    The response?

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6a43731db9f58f0eb4c13f95/HMP_Liverpool_inspection_response_letter_-_June_2026.pdf

    How can any of this be indicative of a functioning justice system in a first world country? Drugs, deaths, illiteracy, no risk assessments, ignoring issues around mental health, no oversight, poor living conditions, vulnerable/new prisoners left alone...

    ... and what does Alan Scott CBE, Area Executive Director for the North West have to say? Is he appalled? Is he sacking those responsible? Is he embarassed? Does he quit in disgrace? No. He's "encouraged", ffs:

    "I am encouraged to note that you have observed good or reasonable progress being made across five priority/key concerns... In respect of the four priority/key concerns and four Ofsted themes where insufficient progress was identified, I can confirm that the IRP findings have been carefully considered, and steps will be taken to address the issues they identify."

    Mealy mouthed bollocks from the regional director who should be handed a P45, along with everyone else responsible for the shitshow. But they're all chums together, so no-one will carry any can except, most likely, the poor fuckers on the frontline who are knocking their pans in to try & get through each nightmare of a working day. AND, need it be said, the poor fuckers who reside there at HM's pleasure.

    No-one gives a flying fuck; its all about gongs & polite letters & not upsetting the status quo. Useless wankers, the whole chuffin' lot of 'em:

    Alan Scott CBE, Area Executive Director – North West and Women’s Group
    Cc: James McEwen, Director General Chief Executive Officer, HMPPS,
    Michelle Jarman-Howe, Interim Director General of Prisons, HMPPS,
    Mark Livingston, Prison Group Director, Manchester, Merseyside and Cheshire
    Prisons Group, HMPPS

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    1. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/amber-rudd-to-lead-review-into-safety-and-security-of-prisons

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    2. The obvious, perfect choice.

      On 29 April 2018, Rudd resigned as Home Secretary, stating in her letter of resignation that she had "inadvertently misled the Home Affairs Select Committee [...] on the issue of illegal immigration" ... In September 2019 Rudd resigned from [johnson's] cabinet and resigned the Conservative whip in Parliament, to protest against Johnson's policy on Brexit and his decision to expel 21 Tory MPs."

      Wiki says: "After parliament... Rudd was made a senior adviser at Teneo and an adviser to Darktrace [see below]... In 2020 she began presenting her own show, Split Opinion, on Times Radio... In 2022, British energy and services multinational company Centrica appointed Rudd as a non-executive director... as of August 2023, Rudd's bio states that she works "in the private sector, primarily in energy and cyber security."... Rudd was formerly in a relationship with fellow former Conservative MP Kwasi Kwarteng."

      The govt claims "inspections published over the last 12 months show improvements across a number of prisons" ... The review will report back by December and builds on significant Government action over the last two years ...

      Deputy Prime Minister and Lord Chancellor David Lammy said: blah blah

      Clinks CEO, Dr Summer Alston-Smith, said: "The role of the voluntary sector in supporting such a system, one focused on rehabilitation, cannot be overstated."

      Probation said: fuck all. Were they ever invited to the party?

      Chair of the Independent Review into Prisons, Amber Rudd said: "This review will examine how we (darkspace, perhaps?) improve the security and safety of prisons... KERRRCHINGG!$$££$$"

      https://www.darktrace.com/news/former-british-politician-amber-rudd-joins-darktraces-advisory-board

      https://www.darktrace.com/cyber-ai-glossary/cybersecurity-for-government-applications

      https://www.applytosupply.digitalmarketplace.service.gov.uk/g-cloud/services/926745985668520

      "The UK Government utilizes Darktrace’s artificial intelligence cyber defense technology across various departments, securing multi-million dollar contracts to protect sensitive infrastructure from nation-state attacks and ransomware. The Cambridge-headquartered firm is also highly active in the UK public sector regarding national cyber policy and security procurement."

      "£40 million already invested to bolster prison security, alongside a further £35 million announced this month to install heavy duty steel grilles on up to 13,000 prison cell windows to stop drones smuggling contraband into jails."

      If it wasn't so fucking serious & tragic & crooked & corrupt, I'd be laughing myself stoopid!

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  19. The NEU called off further action after the government revised its 2023 offer to 6.5%.
    Teachers were then given a 5.5% rise in 2024 and a 4% rise in 2025.

    Read and weep public protectors

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  20. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/amber-rudd-to-lead-review-into-safety-and-security-of-prisons

    some random thoughts.

    David Lindon Lammy, Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Secretary of State for Justice, and Lord Chancellor since September 2025, was born on 19 July 1972 in Whittington Hospital in Archway, north London to Guyanese parents.

    “David Lammy is Proud of his Guyanese Roots” - Lammy is quoted saying: “I am very proud because my parents were both Guyanese. I have a Guyanese passport and since Brexit that Guyanese passport has more value than before!”

    David Lammy, the Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, holds dual citizenship and travels with both a British passport and a Guyanese passport.
    _________________________________________________________

    "As Home Secretary, Ms Rudd led the Government’s response to terrorism, serious violence and organised crime, and worked closely with the Ministry of Justice following the Acheson Review to strengthen prison security and tackle the threat of extremism in custody, including through the introduction of specialist separation units for the most dangerous offenders."

    "The Acheson Review (published in August 2016) was an independent government assessment of Islamist extremism within UK prisons, probation services, and youth justice. Led by former prison governor Ian Acheson, the review identified jails as potential incubators for radicalization and made over a dozen principal recommendations to overhaul the system."

    The UK government has recently been piloting various AI and "tough justice" technologies inside prisons and the probation service to detect substance abuse and monitor offenders. Darktrace is heavily involved in AI-powered cybersecurity. Former British Home Secretary Rt Hon Amber Rudd serves as a senior adviser and board member at the cybersecurity firm Darktrace. She joined the company to provide strategic guidance on cybersecurity and to assist with their market expansion in the US and Europe.

    Nothing to see here. Its all perfectly normal.

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