Saturday, 29 March 2025

The Forgotten Service

Thanks go to regular contributor 'Getafix for pointing me in the direction of this report  from think tank Demos:-

To fix the justice system, the government must first grapple with the forgotten service: Probation

Policing and prisons have been a mainstay of the news cycle for the Labour government, with the Southport riots, early prison releases, and (more recently) neighbourhood policing all making the headlines. While discussions around police and prisons continue to hit the headlines, pundits and policymakers too often neglect a crucial part of our justice system – probation services.

Maybe there is an understandable reason why. Five year (though often shorter) election cycles full of combative rhetoric, coupled with a public that remains fearful and paranoid of rising crime (despite actual falling levels) gives politicians the incentives they need to make big, public promises; promises of more police, more prisons and harsher sentences to assure voters that they will be ‘tough on crime’. In contrast, probation operates in the shadows. Investing into services that support prison-leavers may expose policymakers to criticisms such as being ‘soft on crime’. Part 1 of the Independent Sentencing Review confirms that this approach is not only the wrong answer but also exacerbating the problem.

However, now is the chance to do something different. Coming into office, the new government promised an end to such ‘sticking plaster politics’ and there have been some promising signs since the start of this Labour government. From the widely lauded speedy appointment of James Timpson as Minister of Prisons, to Shabna Mahmood’s early release scheme and commissioned sentencing review, the government has taken important and sometimes difficult steps towards resolving the justice crisis. However, these steps are not enough. Without giving attention to probation, the government will miss the opportunity to truly improve the outcomes of our justice system.

Probationary reform is both a moral and economic imperative.

Over the past few decades, successive attempts at top-down restructuring have veered probation away from its founding mission to support people back into society, to instead managing and avoiding risk. Combined with a strikingly low workforce of under 21,000 practitioners that manages triple the number of people currently in prison, the service is crumbling under pressure. This is clear in the massive increase of the recall population in prison from just 100 in 1993 to 12,920 in 2024. Judges and magistrates have also seemingly lost faith in the probation system to offer a better alternative to incarceration, resulting in a greater use of custodial sentencing. Now England and Wales incarcerate more than any other country in Western Europe. It is clear that probation is failing to support sustainable re-entry into mainstream society, hindering the ability of prison-leavers to live lawful, happy and productive lives.

This shortfall in probationary support is having dire consequences.

Most people leave prison only to find that they felt more stable when inside, with research by Birmingham City University finding 41% of prison-leavers were unsure where they would live on release. From 2023 to 2024, 13% of prison leavers were released into homelessness making them 50% more likely to reoffend. And whilst half of the people in prison deal with drug addiction, only one-third of those who left in 2022 received any treatment or support leaving them to look towards crime to continue funding these habits. When people feel they have no choice but to return to crime, we fail them, their victims and the public. But it does not stop there. The impact of this is also felt intergenerationally with children of offenders being more likely to commit crime themselves. A 2007 study found that two-thirds of those with a convicted father were convicted themselves by age 32 compared to a third without. Until we support those who leave prison to find safety and stability outside, we leave everyone at risk to fall back into crisis.

The failures of our current probation system also carry significant economic costs. In the detecting, sentencing and imprisoning of reoffenders, the government spends £18.1 billion per year. The government’s new ‘Plan for Change’ allocates £2.3 billion of the Budget to build four new prisons. In addition, His Majesty’s Prison and Probation Service estimates it would cost more than double the current maintenance expenditure to bring the whole estate into fair condition. If probation worked effectively, intervening and supporting in the right way, the government would be able to invest that money into the public services that matter to us most, such as the NHS. Not only do we bear the massive cost of resentencing, but also the lost economic potential of those in prison rather than in employment. Spending more upfront to support prison-leavers to change their lives will lower their odds of returning to the crisis points that led them to prison in the first place. Rather than the tens of thousands of pounds needed to keep someone in prison, we must help them achieve their economic potential outside, giving them the support and resources they need to end the cycle of crime they are stuck in.

The government has taken difficult decisions to prove its commitment to resolving the justice crisis, the early release scheme being one of these. However, without attending to probation, we fear these efforts will be in vein as can be seen in the scheme’s overwhelming recall rates. Likewise, more prisons without the tools to keep people out of them will inevitably lead to further capacity issues.

Since its inception, Demos has been a thought-leader on public service reform. Over the past year, our Future Public Services Taskforce has been developing a new cross-cutting public service reform strategy. Based on this work, we believe a new delivery of probation – one founded on prevention, strong relationships and professional autonomy – will renew its direction. For the government to make real and lasting change in the justice system, it must first grapple with the forgotten service: Probation.

136 comments:

  1. V important article - thanks. Reset and the upcoming Impact initiative are not based on much evidence of "what works" for offenders, no account taken of the Cycle of Change, for example. We need an Approved Premises building programme. Releasing prisoners to no accommodation is inhumane and adding to re-offending and recalls to prison.

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    1. There’s an enquiry on this.

      Rehabilitation and resettlement: ending the cycle of reoffending

      https://committees.parliament.uk/work/8678/rehabilitation-and-resettlement-ending-the-cycle-of-reoffending/publications/

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    2. The Justice Committee has launched its inquiry into Resettlement and Rehabilitation, which is centred around investigating the cycle of reoffending.

      HM Prison and Probation Service aims to reduce reoffending by rehabilitating the people in its care through education and employment. However, reoffending in England and Wales remains high. For the year ending December 2023, 78% of all offenders cautioned or convicted for an indictable offence in 2023 had at least one prior caution or conviction.

      The Committee has decided to investigate the journey of an offender through the criminal justice system and examine what offer of rehabilitation and resettlement the offender has the ability to engage with, to prevent future reoffending.

      The inquiry sets out to look at what the regime offer is in different prisons and for different prisoner cohorts. It will also look at services in prison and whether they encompass principles of desistance and purposeful activity. The inquiry will also investigate governance in prisons, including staffing and contracting, and to what extent it impacts the ability to deliver rehabilitative services in prison.

      The inquiry will also look at what support is available for ex-offenders’ post-release, and whether there is sufficient join up, data sharing and capacity of these services to deliver effective resettlement services. The inquiry will also consider alternatives to custody, and what impact licence recall conditions have on promoting resettlement, and the role of community sentencing.

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  2. When the job centres tell offenders to see if Probation can find them work, and the local housing services tell them to ask their Probation Officers to find them houses, and G.P's suggest they see if Probation can help them with well being and mental health, it really brings it home how necessary Probation is and how all the other local services are either failing or also stretched to breaking point...

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    1. I agree . I work in a prison and the lack of understanding about what probation actually does is very stark. We are expected to sort out everything from lost property to severe mental health issues . Unfortunately things are compounded by prison staff believing everything that a prisoner says over what we say. Our professionalism is entirely sidelined and we are thought no more that a personal assistant to the prisoner to get them what they want , when they want it. Ironically, we don’t get to do the one to one work that would help the prisoner most. Hopefully the various reviews may bring more clarity (although I suspect I am being optimistic!)

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    2. No I doubt that. It merely reflects those agencies no longer have intention to provide to people outside of their target area. Sign posting people to us is all we do when referring them out in the first place. It's a revolving door nothing else.

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  3. When does the Inquiry report ?

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  4. Long time probation officer retired last year. Now a volunteer worker in a community advice service. It seems like all major agencies are now deliberately inaccessible so folk turn to anyone willing to help where you can just walk in and get help with massively complicated on line applications. It's just a massive exercise in shuffling off poor and vulnerable people.
    Boo hiss!

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    1. Who's to say anti woke is wrong it is the other side of the perceived over generosity to people resources collectively. It needs a lot of consideration. Straight rejection is also a debate.

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  5. Is no-one safe from the so-called anti-woke agenda?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/29/met-raids-quaker-meeting-house-and-arrests-six-women-at-youth-demand-talk?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-gb

    A statement by the Quakers:

    “No one has been arrested in a Quaker meeting house in living memory,” said Paul Parker, the recording clerk for Quakers in Britain.

    “This aggressive violation of our place of worship and the forceful removal of young people holding a protest group meeting clearly shows what happens when a society criminalises protest.

    “Freedom of speech, assembly, and fair trials are an essential part of free public debate which underpins democracy.”

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    1. The partial picture you mean.

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  6. £400million (of a promised £2.3billion taxpayer money) to "ensure the country never runs out of cells again"... really?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-1500-place-prison-opens-as-government-grips-crisis

    "HMP Millsike is the first of four new jails to be built as part of the Plan for Change to create 14,000 extra prison places by 2031. This extra capacity will help put more violent offenders behind bars, make streets safer and ensure the country never runs out of cells again."

    What fresh hell is this? The language of 1970's magistrates has been exhumed & reanimated:

    "The prison will be operated by Mitie Care and Custody and will have education and workplace training provider PeoplePlus on site to give offenders the tools they need to find work on release and stay on the straight and narrow."

    And here comes that warm, reassuring hug:

    "Situated on land next to the existing HMP Full Sutton, HMP Millsike has been named after Millsike Beck, a local stream that runs adjacent to the new jail, firmly embedding the prison into its local community."

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  7. "democratic deficit" - sounds like something jenrick would come out with but no... it comes from petulant labour.

    Its not a 'forgotten' service... its a service that has been made intentionally dysfunctional by political ideologues; a position reinforced by current ministers who have the brass neck to describe the sentencing council as showing 'a democratic deficit'.

    The hypocrisy being that the incumbent fuckwits are going to introduce new legislation so they can bypass the sentencing council, i.e. taking away a person's right to a considered assessment via a pre-sentence report & gaoling increasing numbers.

    Well, they have all those new prison cells to fill & corporate chums to enrich with new prison building programmes.

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  8. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/mar/30/ministers-bill-overturn-sentencing-guidelines-england-wales

    Officials in the Ministry of Justice spent the weekend drafting a piece of emergency legislation which would instruct judges to ignore the council’s guidance. The law would be brief and limited in its scope, according to people close to the process, with ministers hoping to pass it through both the Commons and the Lords in as little as 24 hours

    Where's the ***real*** democratic deficit?

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  9. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0m9n4m7w3jo

    Mahmood told the council's chair Lord Justice William Davis: "I think it is vital that the decisions taken on this question should be accountable to the public, both in parliament and at the ballot."

    So what does she do?

    Legislation will be tabled this week that government sources said would "surgically" remove that particular section of the new guidelines.

    They will hope to rush it through both Houses of Parliament. But a Ministry of Justice (MoJ) source admitted "there is no world in which those guidelines don't come into effect" as planned on Tuesday.

    The new law will "be very focused on the specific guidelines and specifically the bits we don't like about them," the source said.

    https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/20250310-Letter-from-Lord-Justice-William-Davis-to-Lord-Chancellor-on-Imposition-FOR-PUBLICATION.pdf

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67e6640655be617e1490d69c/lord-chancellor-rt-hon_lord-justice-davis.pdf

    https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025-03-26-Letter-to-the-Lord-Chancellor-from-William-Davis-LJ-1.pdf

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  10. More Labour madness as Justice Minister willfully misinterprets sentencing proposal….https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/mar/30/ministers-bill-overturn-sentencing-guidelines-england-wales?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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  11. An Open Letter to:

    The Rt Hon Lord Justice William Davis
    Chairman of the Sentencing Council
    Royal Courts of Justice
    Strand
    London
    WC2A 2LL

    and

    The Right Honourable
    Shabana Mahmood MP
    Lord Chancellor & Secretary
    of State for Justice

    Dear Both

    I have a solution that avoids expensive, time-consuming, undemocratic emergency legislation whilst retaining the principle of good old single tier justice.

    Request Pre-Sentence Reports for EVERYONE!

    Yours in the spirit of Advise, Assist & Befriend,
    Robert Jenrick's Reasonable Doppelganger
    (if such a thing can exist)

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    1. And so the new fascism infecting the world is confirmed as alive & kicking in the uk... the sentencing council has capitulated to the trumpist apologists - in this case jenrick/mahmood/kiastarmer - & psr's will NOT be requested per the proposed guidelines. Clearly the bigoted, blinkered political class knows so much more about everything than anyone else.

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    2. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yg887m6qdo

      The Sentencing Council says it has delayed the introduction of guidelines which advise judges to consider the lives of offenders from ethnic minority and other backgrounds before deciding on punishment.

      It comes after the government said it would pass an emergency law to override the guidance, which prompted claims of "two-tier justice".

      The guidelines were due to come into effect in England and Wales on Tuesday but are now unlikely to be introduced in their original form.

      Earlier, the prime minister said he was "very disappointed" and had "no other option" but to pass a law overruling the body, after it previously refused to reconsider the guidance.

      But government sources said it would be all but impossible to pass such legislation before Parliament breaks for Easter.

      In a statement, the Sentencing Council said its chairman, Lord Justice William Davis, met Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood on Monday morning.

      The council defended the guidelines as "necessary and appropriate".

      But in the meeting with Mahmood, Lord Davis indicated the guidelines would not be brought in while there was a "draft bill due for imminent introduction that would make it unlawful".

      "On that basis, the council, an independent statutory body, has chosen to delay the in force date of the guideline pending such legislation taking effect," the statement said.

      Conservative shadow justice secretary Robert Jenrick claimed the Sentencing Council had "folded under the pressure" after he had threatened a legal challenge against the guidelines.

      Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood said the guidelines "create a justice system where outcomes could be influenced by race, culture or religion".

      "This differential treatment is unacceptable - equality before the law is the backbone of public confidence in our justice system," she said.

      "I will change the law to ensure fairness for all in our courts."


      This is just peachy:

      "Jenrick first raised concerns about the guidelines earlier this month, saying they were biased "against straight white men" and amounted to "two-tier justice". "

      Those poor straight white men who have never had anything but injustice in their lives...

      from Prison Reform Trust:

      "What's the issue?

      If our prison population reflected the ethnic make-up of England and Wales, we would have over 9,000 fewer people in prison—the equivalent of 12 average-sized prisons.

      There is a clear direct association between ethnicity and the odds of receiving a custodial sentence. People from black , Asian, and “Chinese or other” backgrounds are more likely to be sent to prison at the Crown Court.

      Black and Asian people in prison are more likely to be serving long sentences than other groups.

      Black people and people with a mixed ethnic background serve a greater proportion of their determinate sentence in custody than white people.

      Over a quarter (27%) of the prison population, 21,537 people, are from a minority ethnic group."

      .Gov.uk - "18% of the UK population belong to a black, Asian, mixed or other ethnic group" (2021)"

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  12. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/31/i-was-a-prison-governor-for-10-years-corruption-justice/

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  13. Leicester and Rutland probation are already preparing and taking steps to combat the prison overcrowding crisis.
    I rather think that instead of preparing to accommodate more early releases from prisons, they should be arguing that too many prisoners are being subjected to post sentence supervision on release in the first place.
    There's already three times the number on probation then there are in prison and it's just going to keep growing.
    There's just too many people on probation supervision.

    https://www.lincsonline.co.uk/rutland/news/measures-are-in-place-to-combat-prison-overcrowding-9410811/

    'Getafix

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    1. I agree with you Getafix, but I can’t say I agree with them. As an objective observer the real issue isn’t prison overcrowding - the damage is already done. I was going through the Justice Committee’s evidence and hearings which doesn’t seem to be joining up with the sentencing review. There are plenty of solid ideas on prison and probation staffing, training, and capacity, but is anyone actually listening?

      Stop wasting taxpayers’ money on prison building, bureaucracy and excessive management.

      Legislate to end post-sentence supervision (PSS) and make it voluntary for those who need it.

      Overhaul community services so that people in prison and on probation have direct access to housing, education, employment, addiction treatment, and mental health support.

      Properly fund a probation service that operates independently of prisons and the civil service, led by experienced and reputable probation managers. Only then might supervision become a viable sentence in its own right - with meaningful rehabilitation outcomes rather than simply reinforcing punishments.

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  14. Here we have cur kia starmer, leader of the Labour Reform Party, pleasing his gbnews audience:

    "Earlier on Monday, the prime minister had said he was "very disappointed", after the Sentencing Council previously refused to reconsider the guidance.

    Sir Keir Starmer said the government would bring forward legislation to reverse it.

    "There's no other option, so we will do that. We will fast-track it," he told GB News.

    The Ministry of Justice said the legislation would "clarify that guidance relating to sentencing reports should not single out specific cohorts for differential treatment".

    The Sentencing Guidelines (Pre-sentence Reports) Bill will be introduced on Tuesday."

    However, no real effort has been made relating to sentencing that singles out specific cohorts for differential treatment, viz-"Official figures show that offenders from ethnic minorities consistently get longer sentences than white offenders for indictable offences."

    "The Sentencing Council was established in 2010 to try to ensure consistency in sentencing. Sir Keir [seemingly the alter ego of cur kia], at the time Director of Public Prosecutions, was one of its founding members."

    https://www.adruk.org/fileadmin/uploads/adruk/Documents/Data_Insights/Data-Insight-Ethnic-Inequalities-Sentencing-Crown-Court.pdf

    "The 2017 Lammy review presented evidence of stark ethnic disparities at all stages of the CJS. From the point of arrest, through prosecution to custodial remand, sentencing and imprisonment, ethnic minority groups were both disproportionately represented and experienced disproportionately worse outcomes."

    https://yjlc.uk/resources/legal-updates/ethnicity-and-custodial-sentencing-data-highlights-racial-bias

    "Why are BAME adults accounting for 40% of stop and search incidents, when White adults account for 87% of the population? Why are Black adults more likely to enter a plea of not guilty? Why is there such a differential between White and Non-White when it comes to drugs-related offences? Why do BAME adults have less confidence in the criminal justice system?"

    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2022/statistics-on-ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2022-html

    "In general, ethnic minorities appear to be over-represented at many stages throughout the CJS compared with the white ethnic group. This is especially apparent when comparing to the ethnic breakdown of the population of England and Wales. The greatest disparity appears at the point of stop and search, custodial remands and prison population."

    O probation union where art thou?

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  15. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67dda8074fed20c7f559f48b/
    This is NOT an April Fool

    HMPPS_Action_Plan_response_Joshua_Jacques_-_12_month_update.pdf

    Recommendation 1: Ensure there is consistent practice in the allocation and oversight of caseloads, including explicit reallocation of cases when a probation practitioner is absent from work.

    Response: HMPPS have developed a Workload Measurement Tool (WMT) report which improves the accuracy and reliability of the WMT by reducing the human error recording within it

    Recommendation 2: Ensure newly qualified officers are supported to develop their practice and are only allocated suitable caseload volumes and types of case during their post qualification period.

    Response: Following engagement with operational staff and regional heads, the Probation Workforce Programme have developed and published a national framework for Newly Qualified Officers (NQOs)... The rollout of the national framework for NQOs and its supporting guidance was completed in July 2024

    Recommendation 3: Develop an automated process to alert managers to unsuitable case allocations for practitioners (for example, to prevent unsuitable allocations to NQOs).

    Response: This recommendation is partly agreed for affordability reasons. The feasibility of an automated alert has been thoroughly investigated. Unfortunately, a fully automated solution is not possible... HMPPS will instead alert managers to suitability of case allocations through a new Allocate a Person on Probation tool

    Recommendation 5: Ensure that sufficient staff resources are allocated to the effective oversight, chairing and administration of MAPPA.

    Response: The National MAPPA Team conducted an evaluation of the MAPPA Learning Resources in 2024 and found that where they were being used, respondents found them useful.. The survey did reveal that 22% of respondents were not aware of the resources prior to completing the survey

    Recommendation 7: Ensure that probation practitioners understand their role in supporting the police and courts to monitor compliance with Criminal Behaviour Orders.

    Response: Development of the new ‘civil & behaviour orders’ learning product is scheduled for launch by the end of April 2024... The HMPPS Civil and Ancillary Orders Awareness eLearning is required to be completed by a wide range of staff working in HMPPS.


    https://hmiprobation.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/news/independent-serious-further-offence-review-of-joshua-jacques/

    “Joshua Jacques was incorrectly allocated to a newly qualified probation officer who had only finished their training three months before being assigned the case. Under guidelines by HM Prison and Probation Service (HMPPS), Jacques should have been allocated to an experienced, qualified probation officer..."

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  16. Get Probation away from prisons. Prisons are in no position to dictate to probation why they should be the dumping ground for poor management of prisons. Also stop listening to the alienated racists that seem to want every ethnic minority murderer executed. You got your entombed Whole Life Order and the government should not be paying mind to this knee-jerking gallery in terms of giving prison primacy-it's partially why the prisons are so full. Tough on crime. More compassionate on the causes of crime and give much more funding to community probation and our workload reductions should not be addressed by the prison crisis. We should have had our voices heard and had workload reductions based on our own issues. The longer this goes on and probation loses its reason to exist.

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  17. BBC News, Messages reveal Prison officer violence towards inmates in Welsh Prison. HMP Parc run by G4S ( no surprise there!) Officers boasting about punching prisoners and making fun of their self harm or suicide attempts. 17 inmates committed suicide I 2024, the highest number in any UK Prison. Mr Timpson said it was being looked into ! Since then silence!

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    1. When the screws go lawless suicide will go up. Bulling by authority violence or control illustrates the end of line for inmates . When authority is the abuser lost hope and faith facing tears of the same death can seem a better option than years of fear torment and abuse. When I witnessed a distraught asthma sufferer who was breathless in a smoke ridden young adult wing denied his inhaler by officers I knew this was a narrow vicious regime. There were no complaints avenues in the day . Back then it would have been suppressed anyway. Today we have some hope but institution is covertly corrupt all of them are probation as much as any. Anyway the dark old days are still here and I don't see it getting any better. Now if suicides meant the staff became culpable for negligence they might be less offender abusive but we all know that won't happen. More funerals then anyone.

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  18. Free the collective Probation 1- from prisons.

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  19. https://thesecretbarrister.com/2025/04/02/we-need-to-talk-about-the-sentencing-council/

    "The past few weeks have seen significant political and media attention lavished on the Sentencing Council of England and Wales, a small independent non-departmental public body which has hitherto attracted little interest from anybody outside the criminal justice system. What began as a sprinkling of misinformation on social media has snowballed into a political and legal crisis, with the government introducing primary legislation to block part of the Sentencing Council’s most recent Sentencing Guideline, the Sentencing Council postponing the controversial Guideline on the eve of its introduction, the Lord Chancellor announcing a review of the Council’s role and functions, and politicians from both main parties calling for the Council’s outright abolition.

    So it is worth taking a few minutes to look at precisely what has happened, and where we go from here..."

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    1. A thorough and helpful response from the Secret Barrister exposing The Lord Chancellor as suggestible as her shadow - neither would be any good as probation officers with such illogicality expressed

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  20. Probation reports discriminate against everyone as bad Thats why jails full

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  21. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/have-you-got-what-it-takes-dynamic-and-talented-people-wanted-to-lead-our-prisons-as-exclusive-leadership-programme-launches

    "Successful candidates will serve as Prison Officers learning the full range of operational duties on the wings, before progressing to a Custodial Manager in year two, when they’ll manage a team of Prison Officers, and then a Head of Function management role in year three, taking responsibility across a whole prison in areas such as security, operations, drug strategy, residency and staffing.

    Upon completion, participants will be prepared to undertake assessments to become a Deputy Governor, a senior manager accountable for providing leadership and direction, making strategic decisions and managing risks in a prison. "

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    1. From what I saw, this is only open to ethnic minority candidates.

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  22. Trainee Probation Officer starters 2024-25

    East Midlands Probation Service 93
    East of England Probation Service 109
    Greater Manchester Probation Service 71
    Kent, Surrey and Sussex Probation Service 71
    London Probation Service 117
    North East Probation Service 87
    North West Probation Service 128
    South Central Probation Service 61
    South West Probation Service 67
    Wales Probation Service 33
    West Midlands Probation Service 86
    Yorkshire and the Humber Probation Service 134
    Total 1,057

    "This is the first of a new annual transparency publication, which will be published in the first week of April each year and confirm the number of Trainee Probation Officers onboarded into HMPPS for the previous financial year."

    "onboarded"?

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    1. Might be useful to also be updated as to how many decided to offboard themselves from the sinking ship HMS Probation...

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    2. Training screws obviously. There is no way back for POS as was.

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  23. What on earth is this Impact rubbish? Further eroding the role of a PSO with no consideration for POs. Also how will PQiPs learn to manage cases if we’re chucking people off the books after 6 supervision apps? Farcical.

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  24. What does probation actually offer those subject to it ? A serious question .apart from categorisation and monitoring of is no longer a job requires any kind of intellectual rigour

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    1. Intellectual really has it ever been that . Not in my last 40 years . The pretensions of people on here is nauseating. Intellectual does it rhyme with my arse.

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    2. Very funny it doesn't rhyme or sound very thoughtful of those in study trying to improve their own lives and others.

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    3. I did have the very good fortune to work for Nottinghamshire Probation Service when I started my career in 1986. I can confirm that this service was populated by some of the most intellectual and interesting officers I ever met. Assuming this was the was replicated across the piste, I moved over to another service and found to my surprise that it wasn't. During my 30 odd years I witnessed the demise of professionalism, a significant collapse in the quality of the work and a hollowing out of the academic rigour the service once enjoyed. It went from a job that demanded a keen intellectual eye, to a job that required very little. Reflecting back I think that has been true in many areas of public service and is sadly more about cost. If you can get a half wit to do it for less then why not?

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  25. Probation is eroding itself being stuck as the butler and dumping ground to prisons. Perhaps if it removed itself from prisons, it might assert its own identity. Probation can be a force for good, if it's funded properly. It keeps people out of prison after a period of IKEA warehousing in a concrete cell. Perhaps prisons could do a better job preparing offenders for the community and Courts could identify what is required for community sentences before they're allocated to PDUs, especially around address checks (where the offender is staying, as it's often wrong so it's incorrectly allocated to the wrong PDU) and mental health and Personality Disorder pathways. With our own identity we might be able to actually push back on the dumping ground that we find ourselves coping with. Obviously this might take eons, but the current situation is not sustainable.

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    1. A good post but read the language. Onboarded means transfering prison officer to community or jail probation officer. Once morphed we'll be phased into it or out. Wake up people you have all overslept it's too late.

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  26. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvqe14gm4yo

    Detectives found Pegg was living way beyond her means, buying designer jewellery and clothes including Jimmy Choo shoes and Chanel necklaces.

    They found that despite her £3,000 a month income, she was deeply in debt and had not declared three County Court judgments which amounted to misconduct, as debts make officials vulnerable to corruption.

    Her four credit cards were "maxed out" and she had 6p in her savings account, the court heard.

    Giving evidence in her own defence, tearful Pegg claimed she had been "hands on" and "stupid" in her interactions with Saunderson, but insisted she had done nothing wrong.

    Judge Graham Knowles KC told her she can expect a custodial sentence, adding: "I have no choice but to send you to prison due to the gravity of your offending."


    And then there's this:

    "The trial heard Saunderson had developed and delivered a programme, titled BADD (Beating Alcohol and Drug Dependency) for inmates at several jails - while at the time being a major drug dealer, running an amphetamines factory."

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    1. Pardon? Can someone please clarify this statement is accurate:

      "...Saunderson [aka the governor's lover & car dealer] had developed & delivered a programme for inmates at several jails..."

      napo? hmpps? the pi? bbc? c4? kia? mahmood? rees? copple? romeo? kte?

      Probation may's well fuck off & stay at home.

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    2. Pegg a governor . illustrates just how simple thick and arrogant you need to be to end up in charge. She is a complete idiot to suggest she has done nothing wrong. What is wrong is that she does not accept the situation she has placed herself . Ego self centered entitled. Has had too much promotion no experience says it all shacking up up with a serious drug dealer. She might well end telling the screws how to lock the doors in future just so long as she is on the cell side give her time to learn a lesson absolute cretinous woman living beyond her means 3k pcm is enough to pay a mortgage and raise a family . What was she doing . Incredible

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    3. The open estate if full of OCGs….they slip through the prison system so easily with their superficial compliance and nobody stops them…..or more likely don’t care, as long as another closed prison cell is freed up.

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    4. Ironically, our community probation corruption training was undertaken by someone who was a former senior prison officer at HMP Wandsworth- that bastion of good practice. It really is about time to stop giving prisons the power they are richly incapable of handling. I mean, it's not community probation that's allowing drugs, USB sticks with porn or hooky movies, mobile phones and other contraband in. Pay prison officers a proper wage and don't recruit 18-year-olds and any governor of a prison should be vetted regularly, as are community probation, then they would have noticed the CCJ's this former governor was given and how vulnerable she would have been to being corrupted, and the ROTLS she signed off should have been checked too. With misguided primacy and cutting corners and turning blind eyes comes falling short of what's expected. From high flier to cell sharer. I mean the drug dealer wasn't even a looker. He reminded me of Easter in more ways than one. Time to reflect on one's shortcomings.

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  27. Off topic, but a new risk assessment tool or a leap into a dark dystopia future?

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/08/uk-creating-prediction-tool-to-identify-people-most-likely-to-kill

    'Getafix

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  28. https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2025/04/09/ministry-of-justice-building-murder-prediction-tool-charity/

    'Getafix

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    1. Oh no! Yet another tool, like the RSR, which tells us the absolute obvious: that the vast majority of people don't commit a murder or a seriously harmful offence within the next 2 years, but their tool predicts those who are a few more percent likely to (ie they are still very unlikely to) so we now over risk and demonise them due to characteristics they share with the very small percentage of people who did go on and do something heinous

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  29. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/08/banter-judges-instead-jail-petty-criminals-trial-liverpool/

    I'm pretty sure around 10 or so years ago these were called DRR courts, regular updates to Judges on progress and with the power to revoke and or resentence. They were very useful for both parties, but stopped due to money and the Courts time. Nothing new under the sun...

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  30. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/offending-behaviour-programmes-and-interventions

    HMPPS offers accredited programmes as part of a package of rehabilitative activity and support. They are most effective when they are properly targeted and provided within a prison or probation culture that supports rehabilitation.

    Evidence also shows what is ineffective and what we should avoid doing. Programmes that are:

    poorly designed or run
    targeted at the wrong people, and/or
    delivered by poorly trained staff

    This can sometimes increase offending.

    The Correctional Services Advice & Accreditation Panel (CSAAP) helps HMPPS to accredit programmes by reviewing programme design, quality assurance procedures and findings, and programme evaluations.

    This list includes all the accredited programmes that are accredited for use in the community and custody, and available to service users in at least one prison or probation site:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64085767e90e0740d3cd6fa3/HMPPS_Accredited_Programmes.docx

    I don't see 'BADD' listed... any thoughts, Charlie Taylor at HMI Prisons? Or Martin Jones, HMI Probation? Or Shabana Mahmood, Justice sec? Or even Jenrick, a member of the Govt who allowed this to happen? Or Antonia Romeo, now heading off to even greater things after (according to tory lies) her string of "successes" - although some might describe her as playing a key role in destroying the Probation profession, spending £thousands£ of public funds on private wants & needs, bullying staff, overseeing the worst prisons crises viz-recalls, overpopulation, suicides; & corrupt staffing, etc etc.

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    1. So poorly designed programmes targeted at the wrong people delivered by poorly trained staff increases offending....SOTP is the biggest culprit in this....given to absolutely everyone, delivered by absolutely anyone working in a prison.

      So what are we doing now? Delivering Building Choices to absolutely anyone, delivered by absolutely anyone....why does HMPPS never learn? HMPPS repeatedly makes the same mistakes...just like the so called people on probation do, as they are being led and guided by an organisation so blind to its own failures and recidivism

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    2. Exactly why romeo, rees, copple et al have received much praise & generous remuneration at the public's expense.

      See also The Peter Principle - a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence" (book by Peter & Hull)

      In chapter 3, Peter and Hull discuss apparent exceptions to this principle and then debunk them. One of these illusory exceptions is when someone who is incompetent is still promoted anyway—they coin the phrase "percussive sublimation" for this phenomenon of being "kicked upstairs" (cf. Dilbert principle). However, it is only a pseudo-promotion: a move from one unproductive position to another. This improves staff morale, as other employees believe that they too can be promoted again. Another pseudo-promotion is the "lateral arabesque": when a person is moved out of the way and given a longer job title.

      Chapter 9 explains that, once employees have reached their level of incompetence, they always lack insight into their situation.

      Chapter 13 considers whether it is possible for an employee who has reached their level of incompetence to be happy and healthy once they get there: the answer is no if the person realizes their true situation, and yes if the person does not.

      (wiki & other searches will elaborate further)

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    3. Secrets & Lies... as if by magic, the shopkeeper appeared:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3675x23rdxo

      Michael Gove is among several ex-Conservative ministers to be given a seat in the House of Lords in Rishi Sunak's resignation honours list.

      Meanwhile, former Chancellor Jeremy Hunt and former Foreign Secretary James Cleverly have been awarded knighthoods.

      other Conservative figures knighted are former Defence Secretary Grant Shapps and former Work and Pensions Secretary Mel Stride, who currently serves as Badenoch's shadow chancellor.

      Former Chief Whip Simon Hart and former Scottish Secretary Sir Alister Jack, who stepped down as MPs ahead of last summer's general election, are among those to get peerages.

      Sir Alister served as Scottish secretary from 2019 until he stood down, later receiving a knighthood in Sunak's previous round of honours in July 2024.

      During the election campaign, he was the most senior politician to be caught up in the row over government insiders gambling on the date of the poll.

      The former MP for Dumfries and Galloway admitted placing three bets but has previously said he did not breach any rules and has not been investigated by the Gambling Commission.

      The publication of his parliamentary diaries last month, which included stories of an MP being trapped in a brothel and politicians demanding knighthoods, caused a stir in Westminster and were criticised by some Tories for revealing the secrets of his time in government.

      Members of the House of Lords are unelected and scrutinise the work of government.

      They receive a daily tax-free allowance of £361 plus travel expenses.

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    4. Lets just some facts from the journo's fluff:

      "The former MP for Dumfries and Galloway admitted placing three bets [on the date of the general election] but said he did not breach any rules"

      "The publication of Jack's parliamentary diaries were criticised for revealing the secrets of his time in government."

      * 'secrets' means the un-parliamentary sense of entitlement, ego & deceit that MPs of all parties exercise while being paid handsomely out of the public purse both in terms of salary & expenses PLUS the interminable freebies &/or cash they feel they can extract from their constituents, e.g. "A Labour MP has apologised and referred himself to Parliament's standards watchdog after praising a private company in the House of Commons without declaring it had given him a £10,000 donation."

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gr2eykp74o


      https://www.theipsa.org.uk/news/press-releases/ipsa-confirms-decision-on-mps-pay-for-2025-26

      "For 2025-26 the salary of an MP will be £93,904"


      https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/lee-anderson/4743

      https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/kemi-badenoch/4597

      https://www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp/barry-gardiner/146

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  31. https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/fewer-criminals-set-to-be-jailed-say-reports-as-prisons-in-england-and-wales-struggle-with-overcrowding-13345162?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17442694660637&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Ffewer-criminals-set-to-be-jailed-say-reports-as-prisons-in-england-and-wales-struggle-with-overcrowding-13345162

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    1. This is good news! Now, the hundreds of POs that we have around the country sitting doing nothing all day can finally get a caseload.......

      (Clearly sarcasm)

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  32. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jzz4dgze1o

    An NHS trust has announced plans to withdraw from a contract to provide healthcare to prison inmates.

    Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust (NHFT) is currently responsible for looking after prisoners at seven jails across the East Midlands and an immigration centre.

    Under the current contract, the trust cares for inmates at HMP Nottingham, HMP Ranby and HMP Lowdham Grange in Nottinghamshire.

    The contract also covers HMP Fosse Way in Leicestershire, HMP Morton Hall, Swinderby Immigration Centre, HMP Lincoln and HMP North Sea Camp in Lincolnshire.

    The trust said the decision did not affect Rampton Hospital, in Nottinghamshire, where it is responsible for the care of prisoners at the secure mental health unit.

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  33. p.1: "The work of probation officers is changing. Between their first official recognition by the Probation of Offenders Act, 1907, and the publication in 1962 of the report of the Departmental Committee on the Probation Service (Morison report) they acquired a wide range of duties towards those whose behaviour or whose needs brought them within the orbit of the courts... The new emphasis is reflected in the new title - probation and after-care service... The officer will now be more concerned with adult criminals than was his predecessor and be as much a social worker of the penal system as a social worker of the courts... The skills developed by the probation service in work with those who come before the Courts will be needed by society whatever the future structure of the social services."

    p.95: "The probation service has been through a period of change and inevitably there have been anxiety and depression about this. Uncertainty about the future was combined with poor pay... and a number of officers left the service. It is against this background that the national Association of Probation Officers is involved in decisions about the future relationship between N.A.P.O. and other social work organisations. How far will N>A>P>O> be able to go towards membership of a national social work organisation? At the time of writing they are agreeing to federation."

    Phyllida Parsloe, The Work of the Probation and After-Care Officer, 1967. (7s 6d)

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  34. Damning findings by an employment tribunal against the MoJ.
    Have to wonder though why more probation staff don't explore this route?

    https://bylinetimes.com/2025/04/11/ministry-of-justice/

    'Getafix

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    1. When authorities use agents like sscl who firebrand a simple route of denial claim policy but don't publish our terms and conditions. They then interpret their own standard of timeline versus the facts. They ignore the facts pushing a timeline for attendance anything that disrupts the return to work is ignored. Sscl are rigid and clearly failed to protect it's paymaster in this case. The union appeared silent. Good news the vicious treatment has been held to account but be aware national probation has a few similar kept secret tribunal cases of their own. Foi might expose them all and draw back the curtains on the appalling management of all staff. Sscl are the worst.

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  35. No social work now thats sure

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  36. https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/83568/pdf/

    "29. The extension of post-release supervision to offenders serving short custodial sentences has significantly increased the total probation caseload"


    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7c223c40f0b645ba3c6e4f/probation-workforce-report-q3-10-11-staff.pdf

    On 31st December 2010 there was a total of 19,066.75 FTE staff in the Probation Service (including Chief Executives)

    When compared to the same quarter in 09/10, total staff in the Probation Service decreased by 835.55 FTE

    There were 5,358.72 Probation Officers & 4,873.27 Probation Services Officers


    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hm-prison-probation-service-workforce-quarterly-december-2024/hm-prison-and-probation-service-workforce-quarterly-december-2024

    5,283 FTE band 4 probation officers in post (as at 31 December 2024) & 5,316 FTE band 3 probation services officers

    https://data.justice.gov.uk/probation/additional/probation-staff-in-post

    March 2024: 20,412 Probation service staff (total)


    Caseloads:

    30 June 2010 - 239,041

    30 June 2016 - 258,748

    31 Mar 2021 - 224,174

    30 Sept 2024 - 240,497

    ______________________________________________________

    The lies are plain for all to see, i.e. hardly anything has changed except for who controls the service provision (and the quality of that provision has nosedived beyond belief):

    2010 - 10,232 staff to supervise 239,041 cases (~23 cases per fte officer)

    Oct 2011: "The Probation Service was awarded the 2011 British Quality Foundation’s (BQF) ’Gold Medal for Excellence’ at an awards ceremony in London hosted by journalist Louise Minchin and attended by HRH the Princess Royal."

    2024 - 10,599 staff to supervise 240,497 cases (~23 cases per fte officer)

    2024: "Probation chief warns 97% of service already failing" - Martin Jones, HMI Probation

    2025: "I continue to emphasise that the Probation Service currently has too few staff, with too little experience and training, managing too many cases." - Martin Jones, HMI Probation

    TR & all of its cheerleaders were only there to do one thing - dismantle the independent probation service & place it in the useless grubby hands of exploitative greedmongers, politicians & their lickspittle acolytes.

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  37. romeo is such a toxic influence - she fucked up probation, went off on her jollies (hobnobbing in new york with sex offender epstein et al, at **our** expense) then came back to fuck up what was left of the uk's justice system. The Home Office is next...

    https://www.gov.uk/government/people/antonia-romeo

    Her most recent legacy?

    https://www.aol.co.uk/news/convicted-murderer-killed-another-prisoner-102946806.html

    A convicted murderer has been killed by another prisoner after a second security breach in days inside a high-security jail.

    Ian Acheson, a former prison governor who has advised the Government on extremism in jails, said: “Two violent incidents over the weekend at our highest security prisons have lifted the lid on a collapse of security and safety for both staff and prisoners.

    “This is completely unacceptable. But it is also becoming normalised."

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    1. Replying to 09:09 we won't get a clear picture unless we know how many of the total number of FTE Band 4 PO's actually work in case management, there are so many non jobs that exist these days that I doubt more than 90% actually have a caseload

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  38. Despatches documentary about tagging is on at 9pm today on channel 4

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  39. https://cloud-platform-e218f50a4812967ba1215eaecede923f.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/sites/32/2025/03/Probation-Annual-report-2024-2.pdf

    This annual report covers the reporting period of February 2024 to February 2025... During the reporting period, we completed inspections of three regions (Kent, Surrey and Sussex, East of England, and Yorkshire and the Humber). Across these regions, we have inspected 24 PDUs and rated 10 as ‘Requires improvement’ and 14 as ‘Inadequate’. We have rated all three regions as ‘Requires improvement’ overall."

    we rated most PDUs as ‘Inadequate’ against almost all of our service delivery standards. ‘Inadequate’ means that less than half of the cases we inspected were sufficient.

    • Assessment – 23 ‘Inadequate’, one ‘Requires improvement’
    • Planning – 19 ‘Inadequate’, five ‘Requires improvement’
    • Implementation and delivery – All 24 ‘Inadequate’
    • Reviewing – 22 ‘Inadequate’, two ‘Requires improvement’

    leadership:
    * six ‘Good’
    * 14 ‘Requires improvement’
    * four ‘Inadequate’

    Q: How the fuck can six leadership teams be rated as 'good' when not a single pdu/region meets the minimum standards expected?

    "None of the three regions had taken sufficient action to improve the quality of risk assessment and managements plans"

    Q: Surely 'good leadership' means that the basic tasks of the service, e.g. risk assessment & management plans, are delivered?

    Apparently not. These faux inspections make a complete mockery of concepts such as integrity, professionalism & leadership.

    To be fair its nowt but a reflection of noms/hmpps - & government in general - i.e. total fuckwits & arselickers get the biggest salaries, 'performance' bonuses & gongs... and NO-ONE seems to have the courage to call them out. Jones made a promising start last year when he said that 97% of probation was failing to meet the most basic of requirements. He says in this review "I continue to emphasise that the Probation Service currently has too few staff, with too little experience and training, managing too many cases." BUT...

    ... BUT... he's already reverted to type, rehashing hmip's long-standing practice of hierarchical equivocacy, of tickling management's tummy whilst stomping on the frontline staff: "We found good examples of leadership... with leaders having a clear and strong strategic vision for their PDU [but] strengths in leadership were not translating positively into service delivery."

    Breaking News: The Emperor is stark bollock naked. Has been for years. Decades.

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  40. 15:48 (replying to 09:09), many of the non jobs went to unqualified staff who were given material roles during TR.
    These were the people who instructed others as to what to do despite having little or no previous experience but knowing the right people or being their Nepo offspring.

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    1. Not just that is it. Pquip is total crap and is the 4th iteration of nvq based crap. So you couldn't get a thin feeler gauge between qualified or non. So in all the skills are crap.

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    2. Many were fast tracked to spo without the previously required knowledge or skill set. Same at aco grade.

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  41. If inspections didn’t find anything “negative” they would do themselves out if a job hence the continuing toadying up to management, the whole process is predicated on “we know best”, I call bs

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  42. *@19:55 not ‘material, but managerial.’

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  43. jenrick as usual believes himself to be above the law:

    "Hundreds of Westminster insiders were added to - and then swiftly deleted from - a WhatsApp group set up by shadow justice secretary Robert Jenrick to promote his London Marathon run.

    The mishap was laughed off by Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch, who revealed that she too had briefly been a member of the chat along with senior journalists, former cabinet members and other Tory MPs.

    The BBC has been told Jenrick is not referring himself to the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO), which investigates data breaches.

    A source said the ICO did not need to be involved because the contacts had been added to the group for "personal purposes" and the risk of malicious use was low."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewgnee12n0o

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  44. https://news.sky.com/story/nobody-is-truly-safe-ex-prison-officers-grim-warning-after-bomb-plotters-jail-attack-13351768?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-gb

    "Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood said she shared "the country's shock and anger" at the attack."

    The whole system - courts, prisons, probation, parole - is utterly fucked. Politicians' thoughts & prayers aren't enough. People are dying. People are being severely physically & psychologically harmed.

    Official moj stats for deaths in prisons (E&W):

    1978 - 59 ... 12 month av prison pop 43,295 ... 0.001%
    1988 - 82
    1998 - 134
    2008 - 166
    2010 - 198 ... av prison pop 84,725 ... 0.002%
    2013 - 215
    2014 - 243
    2015 - 257
    2016 - 354 ... av prison pop 85,348 ... 0.004%

    https://www.inquest.org.uk/deaths-in-prison

    2018 - 327
    2021 - 371
    2025 (to date) - 138

    The number of deaths seems to have taken forty or so years to double 1978 - 2010, but less than a decade to double again since then.

    "Lessons have been learned..."
    "thoughts and prayers..."
    "urgent reviews are ongoing..."

    https://www.russellwebster.com/a-fall-in-the-number-of-people-dying-on-probation-in-the-last-year/

    "The total number of deaths of offenders supervised in the community in England and Wales decreased by 10% in the financial year ending 2024, to 1,404 deaths, compared to the previous year."

    ??? Maybe that 10% had been recalled ???

    And then there's the impact upon others' lives:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/25/one-murder-a-week-committed-by-offenders-probation-service/

    " One murder a week committed by offenders as probation service struggles

    More than 750 killings since 2010 carried out by criminals on probation, plus 1,000 serious sexual offences"

    https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2023-12-06/5567/

    Argar, 22 December 2023: "Serious Further Offences (SFOs) are rare."

    https://www.russellwebster.com/serious-further-offence-reviews-continue-to-decline/

    Webster: "Each year there are usually around 500 individuals subject to probation supervision who are charged with serious further offences, however notably in 2023/2024 this number increased by 33 per cent to 770."

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  45. I see that Jonathan Hussey (Red Snapper agency) has published a book about being a Probation Officer - he was useless so it won’t be a thriller!! He has developed this Intervention Hub which is being used in supervision with the only evidence of whether it works or not is feedback from the offender. What a load of nonsense. Red Snapper are one of the employment agencies that hold the contract for temporary staffing - I’ve heard reports
    that they will lose this contract due to how they have treated NPS agency staff. They are basically car salespeople and know nothing about the NPS. Completely useless.

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    1. the snappers tried to snap me up after I'd left... an unsolicited email arrived with loads of promises about amazing opportunities & very generous remuneration... I replied asking how they'd got access to my private email address & suggesting I might pursue the matter further with nps/moj or govt info office... never heard a peep from the slimy salesman since (nor, for that matter, did I get any response from nps/hmpps/moj).

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    2. https://committees.parliament.uk/oralevidence/5995/html/

      Martin Jerrold: Of course. I am the managing director of the Red Snapper Group. That is a trading name for three separate limited companies: Red Snapper Learning, Red Snapper Media and Red Snapper Recruitment. That latter business has a contract with the MoD IHAT, a copy of which I have brought today, if that would be useful.

      The business has a turnover of approximately £32 million and a team of 70 staff—a mixed, blended team of former police professionals and business managers. We are a law enforcement professional services business, providing training services and media services. We own police journals, and we provide recruitment agency services or staffing services. Having watched the first session, I feel there has been a bit of a misunderstanding as to the sort of services we provide into the MoD IHAT.

      We provide specialist agency staff who work under the control and supervision of the end user under classic recruitment agency terms, which is very distinct from outsourcing an operation or piece of business. When we provide staff into any police force—all our clients are law enforcement agencies—they work under the control and supervision of that end user client and are representatives of that end user client.

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    3. Also delivering the current online safeguarding training to Probation staff

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  46. thoughts & prayers
    lessons to be learned
    lets have a review

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cde2xy2gw4ro

    "Prison officers are to demand that staff be immediately given electric stun guns to protect themselves while guarding the UK's most dangerous jails when they meet the justice secretary on Wednesday.

    In a statement, Mahmood said "we must do better protect our prison officers in the future".

    The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) has said there will be a full, independent review into the incident

    Mahmood said the review would "provide recommendations and findings that highlight whether there are any changes in process or policies that can be implemented"

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  47. https://actionforraceequality.org.uk/pushback-on-the-pre-sentence-reports-guidance-is-reductive/criminal-justice/

    According to research supported by Action for Race Equality, Black, Asian, and Mixed Heritage people are more likely to be sent to Crown Court for trial, they are more likely to be remanded in custody, and if convicted they are more likely to receive a custodial sentence and a longer sentence length than defendants in the white British group. Legally relevant factors do not fully explain these disparities in remand and sentencing outcomes.

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  48. Found this from Jan 2007... seems people from all walks of life had misgivings about noms & the detestability of contestability:

    "...contestability may be used competitively, to save costs, impose standardisation and uniformity, and threaten punishment for failure..."

    https://www.churchofengland.org/sites/default/files/2018-10/gs1647-taking-responsibility-for-crime-report-from-mpac.pdf

    "97. In 2004, the Government adopted, with minimal consultation, the proposals of the Carter Report to merge the prison and probation services in a National Offender Management Service (NOMS). This involved a massive shake-up of provision for supervising offenders in the community whose practical implications are now being confronted. NOMS is designed to provide ‘end-to-end’ management of offenders, thereby overcoming the historic lack of communication and collaboration between prisons, probation and other agencies. Commissioning is to be separated from provision, through the mechanism of ‘contestability’ whereby bids for providing services will be invited from the statutory, private and voluntary sectors. The practical result of this is that work with offenders in the community will no longer be the exclusive domain of the Probation Service, though it will clearly remain a major provider (at present, as an interim measure, it is required to allocate 5% of its budget to the voluntary sector).

    100. However, questions remain about the ability of this system to generate appropriate services. In recent years the Probation Service has been demoralised by continuous change and undermined by unsympathetic criticism, but is expected to continue to play the major role in offender management. There are also divergent views about the change in working culture that will result. David Faulkner has suggested that contestability may be used competitively, to save costs, impose standardisation and uniformity, and threaten punishment for failure, or it might be used co-operatively, to encourage innovation, creativity and adaptability. Only time will tell which trend will prevail."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Butler_(bishop)

    https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/people/david-faulkner

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  49. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002b6n8

    scroll to 2:35:40 in the play bar to hear the discussion on the bill to be introduced tomorrow to [in the words of r4 presenter justin webb] "clip the sentencing council's wings"... baroness chakrabati & lord falconer speak.

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    1. here's a link to the commons' libraryt briefing re-the bill due for 2nd reading tomorrow (22 Apr):

      https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-10245/CBP-10245.pdf

      "Pre-sentence reports (PSRs) are written by probation officers or Probation Service officers who interview people after their plea hearing. They assess the factors that could have contributed to someone’s offending, the risk they pose and any needs they have that might affect criminal behaviour. The report aims to give the court an understanding of the background and context of the offending. PSRs assist the court to impose an appropriate and effective sentence and to decide between a community or custodial sentence. They recommend an appropriate sentence, but sentencers do not have to follow it. When sentencing, sentencers must consider the Equal Treatment Bench Book (July 2024) (PDF), a reference document prepared by the Judicial College intended to help sentencers conduct fair hearings and enable all court users to participate in the legal process (including context on how people from different communities might experience the court). The PSR is the primary means of providing information about an offender to the courts....

      ...There have been concerns about the numbers of people being sentenced without a PSR. In 2014, 85% of people who received a community order had a PSR, while in 2019 only 45% who received a community order had a PSR...

      ... In a debate in the Commons on 17 March 2025... Some members commented on the important of PSRs and requested that they be available for all defendants...

      ... The Lords debated the guideline on 19 March 2025, and... A few members of the House of Lords commented that the imposition guideline did not suggest lighter sentences for offenders from minority ethnic groups but set out when PSRs were particularly important....

      ... The minister’s response was that tackling disproportionate outcomes in the criminal justice system was a matter of policy and should be addressed by government ministers and not the Sentencing Council."

      In every day parlance: shadowy jenrick was whining that others with a more balanced view of the world had pulled the rug from under ministerial feet and cried "foul"... which played into the equally power-hungry & self-obsessed delusional mindset of the current justice sec & the kia starmer sales team.

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    2. "Pre-sentence reports (PSRs) are written by probation officers or Probation Service officers

      This was the single last po piece of distinctive work. Clearly worn away by verbal reports from pso. The po role is truly gone no longer on its knees.

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    3. Or they could just legislate for PSRs on ALL case where a supervised or custodial sentence is under consideration.

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    4. https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/bills/2024-26/sentencingguidelinespresentencereports/alert-sample

      Commons debate 1 Apr;

      https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/debate/2025-04-01/commons/commons-chamber/sentencing-council-guidelines

      Lords debate 3 Apr:

      https://www.parallelparliament.co.uk/debate/2025-04-03/lords/lords-chamber/sentencing-council-guidelines

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  50. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/prison-costs-ipp-sentence-ministry-of-justice-b2719484.html

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  51. hansard, HoC, 22 apr 2025


    Sir Ashley Fox
    (Bridgwater) (Con)
    2. What assessment she has made of the effectiveness of the Sentencing Council. (903757)

    The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice
    (Shabana Mahmood)
    The Sentencing Council does important work bringing consistency to judicial decision making, but it was clear in recent weeks that it had moved beyond that role to take in policy that is not mine and not the Government’s. A review of the role and powers of the Sentencing Council is ongoing and I will legislate further if necessary.



    Robert Jenrick
    (Newark) (Con)
    Today, the Justice Secretary is belatedly introducing a Bill to restore fairness in who receives a pre-sentence report, but it will not correct what the pre-sentence report says. Under brand-new guidance that the Justice Secretary’s Department issued in January, pre-sentence reports must consider the “culture” of an offender and take into account whether they have suffered “intergenerational trauma” from “important historical events”. Evidently, the Labour party does not believe in individual responsibility and agency. Instead of treating people equally, it believes in cultural relativism. This time the Justice Secretary has nobody else to blame but herself. Will she change that or is there two-tier justice? Is that the Labour party’s policy now?

    Shabana Mahmood
    What a load of nonsense. I am the Lord Chancellor who is rectifying the situation with the proper distinction between matters of policy and matters of independent judicial decision through the Bill that we will debate on Second Reading later today. I have already dealt with the issues in relation to the immigration guidelines. The right hon. Gentleman has made some comments about that which do not bear resemblance to fact, so perhaps he would like to correct the record. On the bail guidance and on all other guidance that relates to equality before the law, I have said that we are reviewing absolutely everything. I will ensure that under this Government equality before the law is never a principle that is compromised, although it was compromised under the Conservative Government.

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  52. Perran Moon
    (Camborne and Redruth) (Lab)
    9. What steps her Department is taking to help reduce levels of reoffending by people on probation. (903765)

    The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice
    (Sir Nicholas Dakin)
    I take this opportunity to recognise the excellent work that our probation staff do day in, day out. Probation is an indispensable part of the criminal justice system, but the service currently faces significant pressures. That is why we will recruit a further 1,300 probation officers by March 2026, invest £8 million in new technology to reduce administrative tasks for officers and focus efforts on reducing reoffending.

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  53. 22 april 2025

    The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice
    (Shabana Mahmood)

    This Government inherited a situation where around 10% of offenders account for over half of all convictions. We also inherited rising levels of theft and shoplifting. In February, I announced reforms to the probation service that will focus more of its time on offenders who pose a higher risk of reoffending, and I have asked David Gauke to review how sentences could be reformed to address prolific offending, cut the cycle of reoffending and ultimately make our streets safer.

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  54. Rebecca Paul

    Last month, the Prisons Minister said that the longest time that an early-released prisoner had been left to wander the streets without an electronic tag was 53 days. However, just over a week ago, it was reported that prisoners have not been tagged for up to 78 days. Can the Secretary of State please clarify this apparent inconsistency?

    Shabana Mahmood

    We were transparent with the House about the problems with tagging during the second tranche of emergency releases last year. I will ensure that we publish the correct information, and I can write to the hon. Lady with the exact figures, but we have been holding Serco to account, because its performance on its contract has been unacceptable. We have levied fines, and we have said that all options are on the table for any further action that we might need to take.

    Mr Speaker

    I call the Liberal Democrat spokesperson.
    Josh Babarinde
    (Eastbourne) (LD)

    One of the dying acts of the last Conservative Government was to shake hands with Serco on an electronic tagging contract that Channel 4’s “Dispatches” found was completely inadequate. People with serious convictions were left without tags for days and weeks. Victims and survivors were failed, including survivors of those released early under the SDS40 scheme. What will the Secretary of State do to hold Serco to account for these failures, and to clear up the mess that was fundamentally created by the failures of the last Government?

    Shabana Mahmood

    The hon. Member is right: this is one of the many difficult inheritances left for us by the previous Conservative Government. The contract with Serco was agreed by the previous Conservative Administration. We acknowledge that the performance of Serco has been unacceptable. We have already been closely monitoring—day by day—its performance and delivery under the contract, and we have imposed fines for poor performance. Some of the issues relating to the SDS40 emergency releases were ultimately dealt with after close oversight by officials and Ministers, and we continue to monitor the contract very closely. As I have said, should further fines or other measures be required, all options are on the table.

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  55. 2nd reading of the bill was 8pm last night. Link here:

    https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-04-22/debates/9288061F-1755-42F8-8F45-E66E9AC0CAA8/SentencingGuidelines(Pre-SentenceReports)Bill

    It brought out the worst in our elected nobheads:

    jenrick: "The Sentencing Council, an unelected unaccountable quango created by the Labour party, issued guidance that would have divided our criminal justice system by race, religion and identity; a two-tier system as offensive to common sense as it was to the most basic and important principle of equality before the law."

    Mike Wood: "Equality before the law is at the heart of the rule of law. As the great Roman statesman Cicero said:

    “For rights that were not open to all alike would be no rights.”

    The revised guidelines from the Sentencing Council fundamentally went against that important principle. To introduce a presumption that pre-sentence reports would be required not necessarily because of a particular vulnerability of offenders or circumstances related to their offences, but because of the colour of their skin, the region of their ancestors’ origin or the religious beliefs that they held is two-tier justice, no matter how laudable the intentions."

    Nicholas Dakin: "I am happy to have heard so much support for the Bill. There will be a drop-in for MPs on Monday about the next stages of the Bill, at which Members can have any questions answered, and can feed into the process before Committee stage next week. This emergency legislation, while a small Bill, is of great significance. It will stop the Sentencing Council’s updated guidelines on pre-sentence reports from coming into force, and will safeguard against the risk of differential treatment arising from their use."

    There were some notable exceptions to such nobheadedness:


    Mrs Sarah Russell - (Congleton) (Lab) challenged jenrick:
    "I have the pre-sentence report guidance in front of me. It says:

    “When considering a community or custodial sentence, the court must request and consider a pre-sentence report (PSR) before forming an opinion of the sentence, unless it considers that it is unnecessary”.

    It then goes on to describe various circumstances in which a pre-sentence report might be considered necessary and may “normally be considered necessary”. It does not remove judicial stipulations and interventions completely, and to suggest otherwise is not accurate."

    Diane Abbott: "what do the guidelines actually say? Much of the debate implies that black and minority persons are singled out for pre-sentence reports under the guidelines. On the contrary, there is a whole list of people in the guidelines on whom, the Sentencing Council suggests, judges and magistrates might ask for a pre-sentence report. Those persons include those at risk of committing their first custodial sentence; young adults; women; ethnic minorities; yes, cultural minorities, of course; pregnant and post-natal women; and the sole or primary carer for dependent relatives. The Sentencing Council is clear that that is not an exclusive list; ideally, every defendant should have a pre-sentence report."


    But the bill will pass into law regardless of the facts.

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  56. https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14637211/amp/ethnic-minority-criminals-trauma-considered-sentencing.html?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17454319889781&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-14637211%2Fethnic-minority-criminals-trauma-considered-sentencing.html

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  57. Is anyone, anonymously, able to spull the beans on the information that NAPO claim they hold but are not willing to share about the Probation Service? They alluded to it in an email some weeks ago.

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    1. Right you see this sort of comment is saying what. First off Napo should they have knowledge are not in any position to spill brans. They have both a public duty and a responsibility to inform the members and seek a mandate for appropriate action. The idea it has information that it might be withholding is perverse because Napo is not there to coerce by threat of revelation. Napo act properly and if it infers it has information publish the implications and ask members views. Anything under this general secretary has always been useless he is just not able for the role and is just spinning a wheel clutching a ridiculous salary for his amazing luck in a landing the role from a sex crisis by another idiot.

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    2. I just read the Napo web and there 12 staff who work there but what can they be doing they do not have an office.

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    3. I heard some chat about HMPPS having underestimate how many PO's were needed by 25% or more, either deliberately or through incompetence and the WLT was basically being fudged to hide it. But I'm not in the union and thats probably just gossip, if both parties could be open and honest like they expect our POPs to be that would be nice...

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  58. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/apr/25/martin-wright-obituary

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    1. My father, Martin Wright, who has died aged 94, spent much of his working life advocating for changes to the UK’s prison system.

      As director of the Howard League for Penal Reform from 1971 to 1984 he put pressure on successive governments to improve prison conditions and find alternatives to incarceration. He was also a pioneer in the field of restorative justice, and wrote influential books on the subject, including Justice for Victims and Offenders (1996), as well as many articles for magazines and journals that brought the concept to countries where it was previously unheard of.

      Later he worked for the Victim Support charity as a policy officer until his retirement in 1994.

      Martin was born in Stoke Newington, north London, to Clifford, a town clerk, and Rosalie (nee Mackenzie), a librarian, and was educated at Repton school in Derbyshire, after which he went to Jesus College, Oxford University.

      In 1953 he met Lisa Nicholls, a vicar’s daughter, at a party thrown by a mutual friend in Oxford. His hand was bandaged, and when Lisa asked why, he explained that he had been trying to milk a deer in the University Parks in an attempt to make cheese, and it had bitten him. They were married in 1957 and had six children, of whom two – George and Sophie – died young. Lisa later became head of drama at Tulse Hill school in London.

      Martin began his working life as a librarian at the Royal Institute of British Architects in London, before setting up a translation service for the Iron and Steel Institute, editing and distributing articles from technical journals. While in London he became a prison visitor at Wormwood Scrubs, and in 1962, after moving to Aylesbury to become information officer at a research centre established by the iron and steel making company Richard Thomas and Baldwins Ltd, he became a visitor at Aylesbury prison.

      In 1964 Martin accepted a post as librarian at the Institute of Criminology, working there until 1971. While in Cambridge he started a Simon Community branch in the city, and homeless people would often turn up at our house asking for him: we children would happily invite them into our living room for a cuppa, until he or our mum arrived home from work.

      After his 13 years as head of the Howard League in London, Martin became policy officer at Victim Support in 1984 while working as an occasional freelance researcher for the BBC TV programme Rough Justice, highlighting miscarriages of justice. He also studied for a PhD at the London School of Economics, carrying out research into victim offender mediation.

      Outside his work, Martin was a founding member of the Lambeth Mediation Service in south London, which was set up in the early 1980s to foster dialogue between local communities in Lambeth and local authorities. He was also a prolific letter writer for campaigning causes, including tree preservation, the Bhopal disaster, Romanian zoo conditions, vegetarianism, anti-smoking, solar energy and traffic pollution. He was still cycling around London aged 90 on his electric bike.

      He is survived by Lisa, his children, Edward, me, William and Ellie, and his sister Vivian.

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  59. is this new news?

    hmpps organogram has been updated with copple as the new DG/CEO

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/680a3e617a11df940be1aaa6/HMPPS_Org_Chart_April_2025.pdf

    No updates on rees' .gov bio page, but there's this from a week ago:

    "Join us in welcoming Amy Rees as our interim Permanent Secretary at the Ministry of Justice."

    romeo has, of course, flown closer to the sun when she "became the Permanent Secretary of the Home Office in April 2025"

    The architects & collaborators-in-chief of the worst series of crises in prisons, probation & justice in general have once again been rewarded with promotions, riches & gongs galore.

    "Hahahaha" chortled Florence, Dylan & Dougal [music, end credits]

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  60. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-october-to-december-2024/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-october-to-december-2024

    240,362 offenders under probation supervision as at 31 December 2024

    (All supervision cases in 2014 = 217,359)

    87,919 prisoners in England and Wales as at 31 March 2025

    Total recalls Oct-Dec 2024 = 10,401

    (Total recalls April 1999 to end of Dec 2024 = 437,691)

    total PSRs (all courts) Oct-Dec: 24,797, of which:
    * std PSR = 1,427
    *fast PSR (written) = 19,209
    * fast PSR (oral) = 4,161

    Cases being supervised in the community

    2014 = 147,992
    2024 = 167,575 (+19,000-ish)

    In 2017 it was 187,542
    In 2021 it was 170,744

    Caseloads of pre- & post-release supervision

    2014 = 109,376
    2024 = 137,406 (+28,000ish)

    In 2017 it was 152,369
    In 2021 it was 131,949


    Here's what MoJ statisticians claimed back in 2014:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7ed3b7ed915d74e6226b4a/offender-management-statistics-april-june-2014.pdf

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  61. irony? satire? or just utter lack of awareness?

    https://www.civilserviceworld.com/news/article/moj-offers-up-to-150k-for-people-and-capability-dg

    "According to the department, the new people and capability DG will lead a team of around 1,400 staff and be responsible for the MoJ people function’s £216m budget. They will have direct accountability for people-transformation work at the department – including organisational design, business architecture and HR-system transformation.

    The new DG will be the department’s senior responsible officer for the Synergy Programme, which is delivering shared services for the MoJ, the Home Office, the Department for Work and Pensions, and the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs. The advertisement states that £79m of the MoJ people function’s overall budget is for shared services.

    The advertisement for the senior civil service pay band 3 role states that it can be undertaken from any of England’s regions in addition to the capital. The post also comes with a civil service pension with an employer contribution of 28.97%."

    No money for probation staff though.

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    1. what contribution do you folks get as probation staff members of hmpps... 6%, perhaps?

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    2. https://www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/three-permsec-recruitment-campaigns-launch-on-same-day

      "Highest paying of the three is for the next Ministry of Justice perm sec, replacing Dame Antonia Romeo – who will leave post later this month to take the helm at the Home Office. The job advertisement suggests a salary of £185,000-£200,000 a year for the role, which is arguably one of the most challenging tasks in government because of the ongoing prisons-capacity crisis and the courts backlog.

      According to the MoJ’s 2023-24 annual report and accounts, Romeo’s salary was bracketed at £195,000-£200,000 for the year. She also received a bonus detailed as £10,000-£15,000 and pension contributions of £91,000."

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    3. https://www.civilserviceworld.com/news/article/crown-court-caseload-backlogs-will-get-worse-moj-perm-sec-predicts

      "Ministry of Justice permanent secretary Dame Antonia Romeo has warned MPs that caseload backlogs in crown courts across England and Wales will get even worse than their current record high before they get better... The current figure of 73,105, which relates to September 2024, is nearly double the 38,000 figure before the Covid-19 pandemic struck. It also flies in the face of a 2021 MoJ 'ambition' to reduce the backlog to 53,000 cases by March this year."

      Well worth £200k a year of anyone's money? Plus the bonuses & pension contributions, of course.

      But wait, what's that? "Not my fault..." she cried:

      "Romeo said that the growth in crown court backlogs was principally due to the effects of the pandemic and industrial action taken by the Criminal Bar Association, coupled with a greater number of cases coming to court driven by an increase in police headcount in recent years..."

      Presumably this is why she's paid so much & keeps getting promoted; she can speak political-speak, make a total fuck-up sound like imminent success whilst grooming the politicians' egos & presenting herself as the voice of reason:

      "Romeo said that last month's launch of a review into speeding up the justice system, headed by retired judge Sir Brian Leveson, was a recognition on the part of ministers that fundamental changes were required... Everything is connected – courts, prisons, probation, and indeed police. So we can never look at just getting down the crown court backlog in isolation... It's going to be a fundamental look at reforms we can make in the longer term."

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  62. insufferable narcissist romeo proves she has either (1) no understanding of, or (2) not a single care for, the damage, chaos & utter despair she helped create & now leaves in her wake after her two stints at moj:

    https://www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/antonia-romeo-interview-moj-perm-sec-home-office

    "leaving the MoJ is certainly a bittersweet moment. I leave with real pride in what we’ve achieved together... I imagine the feeling of pride that colleagues’ achievements had been recognised was akin to James Cameron at the 1997 Oscars (when Titanic won 11)... I’ve always thought leadership is a team sport, but certainly the challenges in the justice system of recent years have shown me that having a collaborative and resilient top team is essential to navigate through the most difficult crises.... a personal highlight – it has to be going with my family to Buckingham Palace in February, for my damehood investiture by HM The King."

    probation - fucked
    prisons - fucked
    courts - fucked
    many lives - ruined or lost

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  63. https://www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/crown-court-backlogs-moj-hmcts-pac-report


    "MoJ not doing enough to tackle crown court backlogs, MPs say - PAC report is a "terrible indictment of our criminal justice system", chair says

    Are the changes the result of Policy Exchange pressure?

    https://www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/thinktank-calls-for-clearout-of-moj-and-hmpps-leadership

    "Think tank calls for ‘clear-out’ of MoJ and HMPPS leadership - Current bosses ‘not up to task’ of delivering transformation required, Policy Exchange claims... “For too long, however, there has been a culture of impunity for failure, a lack of strategic prioritisation, a degree of mission creep, and a corresponding decline in the ability of the police, prisons and probation services to discharge their core duties effectively."..."

    As per the tradition of the chumocracy, the only way to respond to such criticism is to promote every one of the useless fuckers (e.g. copple, rees, romeo et al) & reward their incompetence.

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  64. Interesting article in today's Telegraph (paywall).

    Snippet...

    "Freed criminals who shoplift should not go back to prison, says probation chief
    Martin Jones, chief inspector of probation, says officers need better tools to deal with issues driving low-level offences.
    Freed prisoners who commit further lower-level offences such as shoplifting should not be automatically recalled to prison to help tackle the jail overcrowding crisis, a watchdog has proposed..."

    Personally I share this view. The recall rate is a disgrace, and there is nothing to be achieved by warehousing problems until licence ends.
    The 12mth and under cohort that were interduced to automatic post sentence supervision as part of TR represent a significant problem for both the probation caseloads and the overcrowed prison population.
    There is no benefit to anyone by keeping this cohort subjected to automatic post sentence supervision. It needs to be reversed, and it needs reversing urgently.

    'Getafix

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    1. The easy amendment to PSS is to remove the enforcement element. Two missed appointments and the case is closed. PSS then remains only for those that want it.

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    2. I'm in agreement 08:58
      But why would anyone want it the way things are? There has to be some benefit to those released on licence, otherwise it's just a transfer to open conditions!
      I'd sooner do the extra few months in prison then be subjected to 12mths post supervision.
      The probation service needs to get back to being an agency that can actually achieve something, rather then being just a management company for those released from a failed prison service.

      'Getafix

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    3. Apr 2024:

      https://revolving-doors.org.uk/recalls-in-crisis-what-needs-to-change/

      "the number of people recalled in England and Wales has risen by 85% in the period from 2017 to 2023, and the average time an offender spent in custody following recall increasing by about half."

      Nov 2024:

      https://www.prisonadvice.org.uk/latest/news/new-figures-show-a-44-increase-in-prison-recalls/

      "for every 100 people released in the period, 73 people were recalled to prison...The ‘recall’ prison population has nearly doubled in the last seven years."

      Jan 2025:

      https://www.prisonadvice.org.uk/latest/news/new-figures-published-today-show-a-42-increase-in-prison-recalls/

      "Between July and September 2024, 14,920 people were released from prison, and 9,975 were recalled for breaching their licence conditions. This represents a 42% increase in recalls compared to the same quarter in 2023."

      April 2025:

      https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-october-to-december-2024/offender-management-statistics-quarterly-october-to-december-2024

      "10,401 licence recalls between October and December 2024... This was a 45% increase on the same quarter in 2023."

      But guess what hmpps claim?

      "Changes to the recall process, effective from 2 April 2024, mandate the use of fixed term recalls rather than standard recalls for offenders sentenced to less than 12 months of custody, subject to certain exceptions."

      "In the year ending December 2024, 88% of immediate custodial sentences proposed in PSRs resulted in that sentence being given, representing the highest concordance between sentence proposed and sentence given" - no shit, sherlock!?

      "National Statistics are accredited official statistics.... We will continue to monitor, and refine where necessary, the new process for sourcing the probation statistics."

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    4. There used to be a necessary & respectful tension between proposals in reports & sentencers; especially those eager to imprison at the first opportunity.

      Is there any data breaking down the numbers of different proposals so we can get some perspective on where that 88% of proposals for immediate custody sits?

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    5. this might help

      Of 7,929 reports where immediate custody was proposed in 2024, some 6,971 received an immediate custodial sentence (this is where the 88% concordance rate comes from)

      In addition:

      715 received a SSO
      206 a community sentence
      14 a fine (?!)
      17 either a conditional or absolute discharge (!!)
      (I've omitted the "other" - what could that be?)


      Of the 81,963 occasions where a community penalty was proposed:

      12,289 received immediate custody
      28,851 a SSO
      39,216 a community sentence
      1,127 a fine
      380 a discharge (absolute or conditional)
      (I've omitted the "other" - what could that be?)

      Concordance rate here was just 48%

      15% getting jailed & 35% a SSO

      Overall, of 92,611 proposals in reports, 19,435 persons were given custody (21%), 30,022 (32%) a SSO : that's 53% of all cases receiving a term of imprisonment, whether immediate or suspended.

      39,855 (43%) received a community sentence

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    6. Propose custody in a psr & 97% receive a prison term, i.e. 88% go directly to jail & 9% have their jail term suspended.

      Propose a community penalty in a psr & 50% don't go to jail BUT... 50% DO receive a prison sentence (immediate or suspended).

      Does anyone know the outcome stats for those sentenced *without* a psr? Because it seems the value of the pre sentence report is overrated.

      NB: The statistics do not appear to identify the offences dealt with by the reports, e.g. summary, either way or indictable only.

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  65. the probation trade unions continue to use the language of never-never-land:

    As promised, there will be a further Joint Trade Union Bulletin...

    we are at a critical stage in the discussions with senior HMPPS leaders and Ministers...

    More news on all of this will follow as soon as possible...

    Unfortunately, pay talks have been delayed...

    As soon as we have more news about when pay talks are likely to start, we will let members know...

    The unions insisted to HMPPS that any delay was unacceptable...

    this is not going to happen in April...

    The unions are continuing to press for this outcome and hope that there will be better news to come on this shortly...

    HMPPS has begun constructive talks with the unions...

    We hope to have more news for you on this shortly...

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  66. "The Forgotten Service" ?

    After reading this thread from top to toe it seems much more appropriate to refer to Probation as the intentionally neglected service, the cut-&-shut service, a victim of institutional abuse, the public service that was asset-stripped (financially & professionally) by mindless bullies.

    It beggars belief that after ten years' worth of proven failure, widespread crises & many tragedies, the architects & enablers, i.e. the multifarious politicians & civil servants at the helm, have profited significantly in both their careers & personal lives.

    Its not just Demos who have seen through the myths peddled by numerous governments. While their views lead this thread "To fix the justice system, the government must first grapple with the forgotten service: Probation", even Policy Exchange nailed it:

    "For too long, however, there has been a culture of impunity for failure, a lack of strategic prioritisation, a degree of mission creep, and a corresponding decline in the ability of the police, prisons and probation services to discharge their core duties effectively."

    romeo, rees, copple, grayling, gauke, gove, truss, spurr, liddington, raab, chalk, buckland, flynn, kte, etc etc etc.

    Policy Exchange, FFS! "Conservative Home has declared that “If anyone was to draw up a list of the top twenty most influential think tanks in Westminster, can anyone seriously doubt that Policy Exchange would be at number one?” "

    Why is this scandal not all over the media? £Billions of public money wasted & handed to private sector chums, thousands of skilled professionals sidelined or worse, and tens of thousands of those required to use the Probation service disenfranchised, short-changed, left to rot on the streets or languish in gaol.

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  67. 1% pay award pending docile staff do nothing

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    1. Strategies include reflection of previous deals. Comparison of similar public sector rates. Forecasting of future workloads duties. Accounting for inflation calculations of real time losses. Adjustments for pensionable contributions advancements. The inequalities of bigger proportion of pay for the higher earners grade pay gap. The outrageous length of the crap pay scale. When Napo can understand any of these the need to form a plan consult members and provide a list of actions we take to ensure pay talks have consequences by members of the shaft is again. Of course Napo won't do thing so ignore our needs priorities .

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  68. https://hmiprobation.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/document/national-inspection-april-2025/


    https://www.tenby-today.co.uk/news/999/probation-service-on-its-knees-owing-to-chronic-underfunding-report-warns-788253

    Serious and uncomfortable question, but why would the government keep funding a public service that is so broken?
    It's not a forgotten service, it's a misused service, a service that's not understood anymore, a service that could do so much if allowed to.
    I'm really at the point where I'd disband it and give to Serco or G4s in its current form.

    'Getafix

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    1. If the police, courts, prisons, social services or schools were failing due to underfunding, poor management and policies they wouldn’t be disbanded. We know privatisation is rarely the solution too. So why say that about probation.

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  69. In my experience, the rot set in during the early 90s when we moved from opposing structural inequalities around race, class and gender to the concept of personal pathology, ( you commit offences, therefore it’s your fault).
    It seems to me that probation has been politicised to the point that it is expected to do a job for which it was never intended. Rehabilitation and re-integration have gone out of the window and the service is now just another big stick with which to beat the poor and oppressed.
    I have said before that at the advent of TR, probation should have been wound up with everybody made redundant on the Friday and start afresh on the Monday under a different banner. I have increasingly come to the view that it should now simply be wound up because probation don’t offer anything and have no unique USP.

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    1. Rehabilitation and re-integration have gone out of the window. Indeed it do speedily dumped by young staff if you blinked you missed it. It was not in their training their imagination just deserts was their focus and the desire to try and direct people from ego. The non qualified psp manager and the bigger responsibility psp in case work in clusters blew probation away. The psp unqualified managers were all mental on authority failing to alleviate they in roles they had no training for instead believing in their selection because they are superior what a thick bunch of turds they were. Also all sacked off off now under cc. Not so clever are they now. Absolutely destroyed probation core values psos proliferation from inadequate awareness we all got shafted .

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    2. It appears Pso management are the issue. We must all appreciate Pso staff generally do the best they can. Perhaps a bit harsh in criticising the whole group. I do recall the day we had just a few Pso staff and it is obvious they would expand to some major element.

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  70. https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2025/april/lords--consider-sentencing-guidelines-legislation/

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    1. Members of the House of Lords will debate the primary purpose of the Sentencing Guidelines (Pre-sentence Reports) Bill at second reading on Wednesday 7 May.

      The Sentencing Guidelines (Pre-sentence Reports) Bill aims to prevent sentencing guidelines from referring to personal characteristics such as race, religion or belief, and cultural background in their guidance regarding when a pre-sentence report should be requested.
      Debate on the draft law

      During second reading, members will discuss the main topics in the bill and flag up concerns or specific areas where they think amendments (changes) are needed.
      Members speaking 

      Lord Timpson (Labour), Minister of State for Prisons, Probation and Reducing Reoffending, will open the debate and respond on behalf of the government.

      Members speaking in the debate include:

      The Lord Bishop of Gloucester (Bishops), Anglican Bishop to HM Prisons
      Lord Hope of Craighead (Crossbench), former deputy president of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom
      Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames (Liberal Democrat), practising barrister and Liberal Democrat spokesperson for Justice
      Lord Wolfson of Tredegar (Conservative), Shadow Attorney General.

      Get involved

      Watch the debate live on Parliament TV from 3.45pm.
      Read the Lords Hansard transcript from three hours after the debate. 

      Explore further information

      Find out more about the bill in the House of Lords Library briefing (to be published 6 May).

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  71. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/may/03/cramped-victorian-prisons-england-wales-limiting-rehabilitation-chief-inspector-says

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  72. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/680f7de256bc2cfe7f7f5c3d/HMP___YOI_Deerbolt_-_action_plan_-_April_2025.pdf

    hmip: here's a list of things you should always have been doing, said you would do, have been paid to do but haven't bothered to do any of them.

    hmpps: oh, ok.

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  73. always worth a listen - this episode is very relevant in places

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002bjdl

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  74. A more professional HMPPS?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/seismic-shift-to-improve-professional-standards-across-hm-prison-and-probation-service

    'Getafix

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  75. UNISON respond..

    https://www.unison.org.uk/news/2025/05/damning-report-should-lead-to-devolved-probation-service/

    'Getafix

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  76. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hmpps-professional-standards-review

    HMPPS commissioned Jennifer Rademaker, a Ministry of Justice Non-Executive Director to undertake a review to look at HMPPS’s organisational culture and how it applies its policies, procedures and practice relating to bullying, harassment, and discrimination. The aim of this work was to identify practical recommendations to improve HMPPS’s approach that will in turn improve confidence among its staff in speaking out and help quicken the pace of change towards a more positive culture.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6814efa82de62f4a103a82dc/Rademaker_Report__-_HMPPS_Professional_Standards_review.pdf

    "I gave careful consideration to a number of options to drive the necessary changes and improvements forward. In my view, what HMPPS needs is a different system for resolving BHD complaints, a system oriented towards the fundamental principle of independence in investigations and decision-making processes, geared for effectiveness in an operational environment. If this principle is adopted, I anticipate that the next step would be further work to develop such a system."

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6819d9a1535fe52de1d8d3db/HMPPS_MoJ_Response_to_Rademaker_Professional_Standards_Review.pdf

    "The first step in addressing any problem is to accept that there is one. For too long, there has been a problem with bullying, harassment, discrimination and victimisation (BHDV) in His Majesty’s Prison and Probation Service. That is a hard truth – but one we must confront head on...

    ... The findings of the Rademaker Review are deeply sobering. They show that unacceptable behaviour – language, attitudes, and actions – have sometimes been normalised, tolerated and accepted over time. And that too many staff feel unable to speak out, fearing they won’t be taken seriously, that it will only make matters worse, and that the hierarchy above them will close ranks. That must change."


    Step 1: Erm, promote, reward & celebrate those who have been the architects & perpetrators of such practices.

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  77. housing crisis? homeless on release? Wonder what property tv reality presenters allsopp & spencer have to say about it...

    “It’ll take 10 generations to sort it out and nobody is on it,” interrupts Allsopp. “It’s pathetic!"

    "Both have invested in London property for their children’s future – they have two each... Allsopp’s house in west London is, in fact, a three-storey 1950s block of what was formerly nine flats she bought piecemeal, now knocked into one very impressive home"

    Do as I say, not as I do - a mantra very familiar to hmpps (see also the Rademaker Report & hmpps' response).

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  78. I try to keep posting snippets here & there but realise I haven't asked how you're doing for some time, JB.

    So... how're you doing?

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    1. Thanks for your contributions and for asking. It will be obvious that I'm not giving the blog much attention of late and that's for several reasons I think. Recovering from the effects of chemo have taken longer than anticipated and I get tired quite easily. Other aspects of life - including doing enjoyable stuff and meeting people - has increased and I suppose the whole probation environment is so depressing I've lost much of my mojo for the struggle. Oh and Twitter is dying and Virgin seem to have lost my dedicated email account for ever - so I've been effectively out of touch for 6 months. Things may change of course and I will always try and respond to significant developments and crises. Thanks for your continued interest everyone.

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