Sunday 28 July 2024

We Are Waiting

The new Labour Government has barely been at the helm for a month and yet has quickly come to the conclusion that the NHS is broken; the Care Quality Commission is not fit for purpose: the Criminal Cases Review Commission chair needs sacking and the Prison system is at the point of collapse. Clearly the new government is not shy at admitting failure when they find it, so it can't be long before their forensic gaze falls upon the Probation Service because that is utterly broken as well. 

Contributors to this blog have been saying it for ages, and yes all the key players read it, HMPPS; MoJ; HMI; National Audit Office and Cabinet Office, so here's what's come in over the last 24 hours to help them add probation to the list of things to sort out. 

The following was added to a blog post from December 2022 entitled 'Is Probation Toxic?' 

"After 20 years service in the Probation Service, I was eventually forced out following a campaign of bullying, harassment, falsification of records and a deliberate drive to force me out. Why? well It was simply down to me being viewed as an 'expensive resource' because the service could not afford to maintain my role owing to my disability (mental health diagnosis). Whilst physical disabilities attract funding to allow for workplace adaptations, nothing as such exists for mental health. Despite complaints to every conceivable dept and mailbox to ask for assistance and for the issue to be looked into, not one came forward. I eventually had my grievance considered but that in itself was a joke as the allegations were not even addressed and I was referred to as being fixated in wanting to blame someone.

I am relieved I am out of this extremely unpleasant and toxic organisation where the value and respect of treating everyone fairly and with dignity went out with the trust closures. When those at the helm of a service meant to rehabilitate offenders, engage in questionable and some on the periphery of corrupt/collusive practices, it remains to be asked - is the probation service fit to continue to rehabilitate offenders?"

This also came in over night:-

"I think the challenge is the heart and soul of probation feels like it has been totally lost under the loss of experienced staff and the disaster of TR and the aftermath. Probation has never been without its challenges but right now it feels like the focus is on ticking boxes and doing the bare minimum to get through instead… how is that satisfying for anyone… !? Also with lots of new staff being recruited in the past year or so their expectations and messages around work quality are based [on] current practice which does not help at all. When areas may come out of amber and red measures in the future, how will staff cope that have only known the stripping back in amber and red?

Instead of ticking those boxes to make it look like work is being done on the surface, why isn’t the focus on quality and making sure the work that is done is done well.. the actual assessment and it’s actual implementation. Inspection after inspection they are consistently an abysmal read. How can nearly every area of the country either be inadequate or requires improvement and yet it’s getting very little media coverage despite the imminent releasing of extra prisoners?

I have come across so many poor ISPs over the years but not like it is now…. but hey they say let’s just get that done, sign it off and hope there isn’t an SFO … oh and if there is one it’s ok because we are all understaffed so the “I didn’t have time and so overworked” applies… it’s just not good enough, where is the integrity! Get it done and oooo it looks good in the stats in the monthly performance meeting… wrong answer … equally what’s the point of writing a gold standard one if the subsequent RMP is not actually delivered or utilised…. We are we told to write we will do x,y,z interventions in court reports when we know in reality it won’t get delivered….it’s dishonest to courts and false expectations given to POPs. If the POP gets through their order without breaches it’s terminated as a success… wrong answer…. We need to stop focusing on stats and start getting the dialogue going around what drives us to do our work… why did we get into this work in the first place… what is our purpose and what is our individual and collective WHY. If we can get the pre TR culture, energy and passion back then quality will naturally improve.

There are so many amazing Officers in the service more needs to be done to keep hold of them as experience is just so so so important within teams to build the confidence, knowledge and foundations in others. I learnt so much training in a team full of officers many many years ago that had been in the service for years - it was invaluable!

Why can’t the service be more transparent about what is actually going on… or not. We shouldn’t need inspections to call it out but the messages from it can’t be much clearer."

This:-

"I’m Off. Coming up to 20 years and I have had enough. I have just booked an appointment with a financial advisor and will be looking to leave either the end of the year, or end of the financial year. … I might not ever get rich, but let me tell you it’s better than being a HMPPS Bit£# ….. I’m off to work at a Car Wash."

Twitter has been lively with exchanges as well:-

"It beggars belief that the HMIP reports conclude every probation PDU inspected (with one exception) requires improvement and yet the leadership / senior management are all excellent. It is simply not possible and we on the front line know it is simply not true. Emperors new clothes!"

"Why not? Leaders are sadly not wizards. They can’t magic up extra staff or resources. Doesn’t mean they aren’t leading well with what they have and don't have appropriate long term plans that HMIP consider positively."

"Sadly the strategy and leadership in resolving the prisons and probation crisis is one dimensional. Senior leaders don’t recognise the distorted value base which staff struggle to buy into and quite frankly don’t care in my opinion."

"Out of interest, who is it you mean when you said ‘senior leaders’ ?"

"Those at the highest level in HMPPS who have had very little or no experience of working with our client base."

"So Exec level rather than probation region level? I think there’s a very valid argument they are out of touch and/or not well advised of the current realities on the ground. But think it’s a stretch to say they collectively have “little or no experience with our client base. The CPO and 3 Area Execs (out of 7), have longstanding probation careers. Many others have direct and longstanding prison careers. The RPDs are a strong and powerful group, all with extensive probation careers and front line experience."

"But fundamentally they do not or are not able to openly say what’s needed to sort this mess. Recruitment will not be enough. We need to look at sentencing, interventions, services and staff retention, with a robust extensive strategy. More admin will not build a quality service. As our leaders we need to feel that they are making representations to the MOJ, sharing strategy in national calls to staff and talking about how the service will manage the additional work. Not repeating rhetoric, making staff feel like the poor relative to the prison service. A feeling results from actions and may well be linked to mentality. However if we look at culture, mentality and staff perceptions then leaders need to acknowledge this and do something different. This situation has not happened accidentally- it’s been created."

"Agreed. It’s not enough to ignore it as the mentality/ staff perception (actively stirred by unions and X commentators in my opinion), clearly isn’t going away any time soon. Top brass definitely do not do enough to actively combat it. It’s frustrating to all of us who care."

"I’m with you… until the poor relations thing. It’s often said but I'm yet to witness anything said by senior leaders that actually reinforces that. Tends to be a perception of probation staff; victim mentality; than a real position of senior leaders in my experience."

"I take the "victim mentality" as a really inappropriate comment about the reality of the environment in which probation staff are operating in."

The Labour Manifesto promised a Probation Review

"After 14 years of chaotic reorganisations, the national probation service is struggling to keep the public safe. A lack of co-ordination between prisons, probation and other local services also means prison-leavers are not getting the right support, raising the risk that they go straight back to crime.

In some areas of the country, we have seen Labour Mayors pioneering a more joined-up approach to reduce reoffending. In Greater Manchester, probation is linked up with housing and health services to ensure offenders leaving custody receive the support they need. Labour will conduct a strategic review of probation governance, including considering the benefits of devolved models."

We are waiting.......

64 comments:

  1. We've been waiting far too long.

    Came across this yesterday.

    https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/82233/html/

    Maybe the new administration would like to appraise themselves so they avoid making similar mistakes?

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  2. I keep reading that Probation is "failing to keep the public safe". Always defined as an organisation that must keep the public safe. Counter-intuitively, I always felt - I have been, thankfully out of this shitshow for a while now- that I was working hard to keep those I was working with safe. To be safe, a citizen needs a shelter, warmth, food. A positive purpose in life, a sense of direction, connection and hope. That was ever the goal, in the massive majority of cases. Rehabilitation, innit? A secure, nourished, working -or constructively living in the community at least- individual is much less likely to commit crimes, and the world is a happier place. Sometimes in order to be safe the individual needed to be protected from the public. Of course there were a few, whose risk to others overrode considerations of their liberty and happiness, but they were and are a minority. "Keeping the public safe" is an extension of the political rhetoric that drives our justice crisis. Also, at a time when law-abiding citizens are, in startling numbers, homeless hungry jobless and without hope, the argument that criminals deserve to have these basic needs met is harder to make. Somewhere along the disastrous track that this country is on, shelter, food and a job have become luxuries reserved for the deserving.

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    1. I left last year, after 30 years. We used to be able to get people resources. I would call and door would open. Until about 2015 when the funding crisis really started to bite.

      It used to be "send him over and l will see what l can do. It became "Do you want me to tell him to fuck off now, or do you need to give him an assessment appointment so they can tell him to fuck off in a month"

      How can we be pillories for not referring to other services, when those services are in at least as bad a state as we are.

      This is not just a Probation problem, it is universal

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  3. Senior leaders, not just at the highest levels, at PDU level too, need to own the culture and poor staff retention. The top down approach of implementation of poor processes to piss poor systems, alongside standardised interventions is not helping anyone, least of all the people we work with. Nobody is looking at the extensive research into desistance, trauma and approaches to improving engagement. We are all evolving into robots as practitioners. And where are HMIP when it comes at reviewing HMPPS strategy- giving senior leaders a pat on the back, and then sharing research stating the exact opposite. I’m tired and I’m off as soon as I can get another job. 22 years in the job and I’m done. You don’t need a degree and certainly they are trying to beat the empathy out of us. Just need a uniform and we will be fully integrated into the prison service.

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  4. It stands to reason if you have too much work to do the quality of that work will be affected and you may miss something. As for ISPs: many are poorly written but it's often another PO in the same PDU that has to re-write it. As it's going in their name, they have to clear up the mess of the previous. This is wholly unacceptable. But you look for short cuts, not because you're lazy, but because you're knackered. Process. Paperwork. Assessment. Report. Box tick. Referral, over and over and over again becomes rote and mind-numbing, not to mention soul destroying. They say if it's not on Delius it never happened. But the culmination of what we're expected to do will start to show in our health. While the risk to the public is paramount and we need to supervise POPs in the most effective way possible, there are hidden and not so hidden risks to ourselves. If your WMT is constantly over 120-145% every week, the this is a risk indicator that may lead to long-term illness. It maybe a good idea for each PDU to have resettlement only officers, who deal with the paperwork for pre-releases and duty officers who only do duty. It'll then free up other POs to concentrate on supporting their POPs. Otherwise, we'll continue to operate in a culture that is unsustainable. Something has to give.

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    1. If statistics show the ratio of probation caseloads to staffing levels has not changed to any significant degree over the last two decades, then ***what*** is causing the situation where staff are saying they have "too much work to do"?

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    2. Three words, “intensity”, “responsibility” and “accountability”. Try holding 50 mostly high risk cases, with all the meetings and referrals to MAPPA, housing, social services and more. After you’ve completed your Pom to Com handovers, ROTL and HDC checks, home visits, structured toolkits, OASys risk assessments, updates to court, ECSL planning, SDS40 planning, Probation Reset planning, you’ve still got to find time for office duty, co-working trainees, spoc roles, going to court, well-being events, team meetings, performance meetings and any other “reasonable management instruction”. Btw I’ve not yet add in actually spending time with the PoPs on your caseload!!!!

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    3. As an SPO in a prison, I see the good work we could do but the staffing levels under OMIC just don’t stack up. we only have 2 resettlement PSOs and at the moment, they dont work on high risk even if they were resourced . POMs don’t have access to the CRS and are too busy filling in gaps for the lack of key work. POMs have 55 live cases each and public protection work on 20 remand cases each so please don’t think POM are lazing about while community is struggling. We want to help as much as we can.

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    4. Satisfying dashboards and administrative tasks which bring nothing to the party but keep senior managers in jobs! I am sick of the lists coming out of what’s not been done.

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    5. Well, the emphasis from SPOs is it's not the workload, it's how you handle it. You complain you're tired. They come back with, well, we all are. They tell you to adopt a work/life balance but then give you more work. They say ISPs are often pull throughs, they're often not. Depending on your level of desperation, you might get a break from further allocations or a dispensation that stops you from having to carry out more work, but ultimately the work has to go somewhere If experience goes, you still can't allocate certain cases to NQOs (Some complex B_2's and above to A_3) so they have to go to those who are fully qualified, which skews the balance of the PO caseload. Unless you want to co-work, which many qualified POs don't.

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    6. Policy is policy. We had a strike over workload when we had a general secretary who knew what had to be done. It was the workload employee care agreement that was brokered to protect staff some areas stroked others settled weightings for task. Our current GS threw all this out in his zealous signing up to hmpos. It his incredible lack of foresight that has seen us parked without any health and safety calls to reduce workloads.
      We need representation we need it now. We Need care we need protection from excess we won't get this from the union .

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  5. “Why not? Leaders are sadly not wizards.”

    Call them what they are. Probation senior managers. Formerly Chief and Assistant Chief Officers, now Heads of PDU, Heads of Operation, Regional Directors. They are not leaders, some are so bad they couldn’t even be called managers. All complicit throughout the failings from TR to Probation Reset. They never spoke up for probation staff nor championed probation as a key arm of the CJS. Instead of fighting key issues ranging from the appalling pay and conditions to the devaluation of the probation officer qualification, they bowed to HMPPS and the MOJ, delivering every lie and allowing every disastrous change to be shovelled onto probation. It is the fault of these leaders staff left never to return.

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    1. 10:26 you speak for me, I think you have summed up exactly what the majority of front line staff feel about our so called excellent leaders. I also have lost all respect for HMIP and their dereliction of duty in not calling them to account.

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    2. I left probation and joined HMPPS HQ after a heart problem brought on by overwork. They used to put you in court or prison but those jobs are for Visor failures now. Best move ever. I work from home and earn more money for less work and fewer responsibilities. No SFOs or constant stress. It is like that Jim Carey film where he lives in a bubble only no one wants to escape from HQ. You do not hear anyone in HQ saying they want to go back to the field. I work with many people who were never POs nor would want to be and don’t give a tiddle about probation. They are oddballs as no one wants probation. Amy Rees is 100% prison. I feel I have earned a rest and will sit tight until retirement now. Probation is irredeemably broken unless it is taken out of the civil service and becomes a local service again - little chance of that happening with such a browbeaten workforce. It would be like trying to bring back little shops and closing down big supermarkets. No one will do it.

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  6. What exactly does the probation service think it achieves in today's world?
    If its about post sentence policing, then get rid of the probation service and put it's funding into recruiting more police officers.
    If its about rehabilitation, then get rid of the probation service and put its funding into more socially orientated agencies, housing, addiction, mental health etc.
    Probation has become/is becoming an expensive criminal justice folly.
    When the probation workforce is worked to the bone, when there's such a rate of sickness, much of it due to stress and mental health concerns, then I feel its a reasonable question to ask if the costs (both financial and human) do not outweigh the benefits?
    I'd urge anyone who reads this blog to listen to the comments left by Annon@20:38 on 27july2024, they nail it in a nutshell.
    Probation is a lost bus, you can keep changing the driver and filling up the tank, but if you keep driving in the same direction, well, that's just stupidity isn't it?

    'Getafix

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    1. 'Getafix - and reproduced above in full in today's post before the promise contained in the Labour manifesto.

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  7. I sat on a probation regional all staff call last week. New head of operations could barely string two sentences together that had any purpose to staff. Even answered a question about extra payments to prisons which really pissed people off. Prison staff being paid extra “for all the hard work they’re doing” recalculating release dates. I have no idea what else was said during that hour, it was all gobbledygook. The regional director gave well-being tips at the end which included “have a hot bath”. I switched off at this point.

    I don’t want well-being events, a certificate, a plastic award, a letter, my name in the newsletter, a nomination. I want to be paid more money for this job and when I come to work I want to park my car for free, sit at my own desk, have a manageable workload, not be spoken to like a child or a piece of shite and not have a dumbass probation manager who doesn’t know their arse from their elbow unless someone higher up draws them a diagram. It’s never going to happen so like those about I’m leaving too.

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    1. Did the new language arks you or ask. There is a widening indication of language retrench of 2 scripted sentences then managers stall. I hear the staff well scheme and corporate good morning good afternoon e mails what utter shite. It is not good anything here unless it's go home time. For which I don't ask .

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  8. At least your department has all staff calls. Our director never speaks to staff unless it's part of a "accountability day" which makes it sound like we are in trouble. Heads are just as arrogant and rude to lower grade of staff and need to be brought down to earth with some personality skills.

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  9. The discussion surrounding low morale, being overworked, and the worry of SFOs has been a recurring subject, yet these conversations frequently lead to a dead end. For me, one of the toxic aspects of the job is the fundamental mismatch among the time allotted for tasks in the Workload Management Tool and the actual time required to complete these responsibilities. This discrepancy has profound implications for us all and as is often the case, leads to burnout or mistakes as a result.

    If tasks have been allocated based on thorough time-motion research, it'd come to be glaringly obvious that staff are being asked to do the impossible and that in reality, the only way to achieve tasks is to cut corners or work unpaid into the night. And an employer knowing this to be true is evidence of a morally bankrupt management team, is it not?

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    1. “the only way to achieve tasks is to cut corners or work unpaid into the night.”

      It’s already glaringly obvious and the employer has known for years.

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  10. 1. Probation is fucked. Its that simple.
    2. The "excellent leaders" are responsible for colluding with the ideological vandals to ensure that it happened.
    3. Those managerialist incumbents - from hmpps down to area level - are not compatible with Probation as a working model of rehabilitation.
    4. Have Mahmood, Timpson & co got the courage to pick up a big broom & start sweeping? No.
    5. Reeves' statement due later today will say the tories have turned the UK public purse inside out, thus there's no appetite for, or possibility of, any major Probation restructure.
    6. While much noise is made about johnson's imaginary hospitals programme being shelved, £billions of non-existent cash will continue to be quietly gifted to & wasted by the prisons regime.
    7. The useless, incompetent collaborators will keep their well paid jobs, pocket bonuses & enjoy their platinum pensions.
    8. Probation's frontline staff will remain stressed, distressed & held responsible for anything that goes wrong.
    9. Those subject to supervision by the Probation Service will remain demonised as wrong'uns, the public protection mantra will be chanted by fearmongers & rehabilitation will not be prioritised as a positive intervention.
    10. Nothing will change for the better in the foreseeable future.

    I trust that this blog will continue to record the dissenting voices of those who have the lived experience of the waking nightmare that is post-modern Probation.

    I also hope that JB's doing ok.

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    1. Anon 08:06 Normally the pessimist, I nevertheless continue to believe in the new government and that there will be positive change for probation. I'm hugely encouraged by an uplift in number and quality of contributions on here, together with a surge in interaction on Twitter. All this is helping enormously with the treatment, particularly as effects are cumulative. I'm half way through and long to get my taste back.

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    2. "Thumbs up"... you're a good 'un, JB.

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  11. Rumours of an above inflation pay rise for the Prison Service to be announced today. Let's see how far One HMPPS stretches....

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    1. I think we all know the answer to that...

      Can you share your source for the rumours?

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    2. 5% for prison staff, apparently

      fuck all for probation staff, apparently

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  12. The NHS and teaching pay bodies are reported to have recommended a 5.5% rise, and similar advice is likely to have been given by other pay review bodies, covering workforces such as doctors and dentists, armed forces, prisons and police officers.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/26/millions-of-uk-public-sector-workers-set-for-above-inflation-pay-rise

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  13. Well I'm pleased that junior doctors have had a 22% pay rise but what about us? Or are Probation Officers not worthy?

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    1. Prison staff to get 5%.

      Our unions should be pushing for at least 15% considering that Probation is increasingly coming under the pu lic spotlight.

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  14. Junior Drs 22% but they don’t sit behind a desk tapping in nonsense all day with a silly criminology degree

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    1. As a PO I agree, we are forced and threatened to sit and write pretty much nonsense all day long these days, but it's not what we want to do or trained to do (although possibly new staff are being trained to do this). The Junior Dr's fully deserve a pay rise, but a good PO has to listen, motivate, assess risk, teach, cajole, empathise, take abuse, enforce when required, give substance misuse advice, relationship advice, find house, employment, advise courts, parole hearings etc, etc, etc, and on top of that if things go wrong we are to blame, we are worth it too, PO's and PSO's

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  15. The junior doctors have had a 22 per cent over over 2 years to vote on. Great news and I wish them well. It poses the question why we in Napo have had no registration of any dispute no workloads or pay battle. Focus on workloads had we been in dispute and took part in a lawful action of rejecting over work we would be better off now too but sadly Napo have no idea what their role is .

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  16. 5% pay rise for the prisons. Any idea if we are included?

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  17. Happy for the junior doctors but so demoralised by Probation Officer pay. I bet when our rubbish pay deal comes to an end there will be no money for us yet again. I feel I have to get out! 20 years in, pay cut since 2010 and no prospect of a decent pay rise in sight.

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  18. People shouldn't hold their breath and remember a majority agreed to accept a derogatory pay deal over 3 years not to long ago.

    https://www.unison.org.uk/campaign-to-re-open-the-pay-award/

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    1. Yes the majority agreed after the probation unions encouraged staff to accept bad pay deal

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    2. No no no that's not fair the unions bottled the recommendation and left the issue to us without any guidance. They should have been sacked for that. They said nothing despite this being the core of their job. Absolute shower. Useless.

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  19. 2010 Band 4 pay £28,185 - £35,727

    2024 pay - "Once you've completed your training and qualified as a probation officer (PO), your salary will rise to £35,130, plus allowances (Band 4). Senior probation officers (Band 5) earn between £37,000 and £44,000. Approved Premises (AP) residential workers get a starting salary of £24,000, plus any unsocial hour enhancement."

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/psprb-twenty-third-report-on-england-and-wales-2024

    https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2024-07-29/hcws38

    The award delivers headline pay increases of:

    5% for Prison Officer grades (Bands 3-5)
    5% for Managerial and Prison Governor grades (Bands 7-12)
    5% increase for Operational support grades (Band 2), in addition to the National Living Wage increase that Band 2 staff received from 1st April 2024.
    This pay award will be paid this autumn and will be backdated to 1 April 2024.

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    1. https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-statements/detail/2024-07-29/hcws38

      "£billions of non-existent cash will continue to be quietly gifted to & wasted by the prisons regime"

      "The useless, incompetent collaborators will keep their well paid jobs, pocket bonuses & enjoy their platinum pensions"

      "Nothing will change for the better in the foreseeable future"

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    2. the 3 year deal for probation band 4 starting on pay point 1 in 2022:

      apr 2022: £30,812
      apr 2023: £33,342
      oct 2023: £34,509
      apr 2024: £36,255
      oct 2024: £38,435

      That's a £7,500 lift

      Top of Band 4 scale in 2022?

      apr 2022: £38,289
      apr 2023: £38,289
      oct 2023: £39,821
      apr 2024: £41,082
      oct 2024: £42,000

      That's a £3,500 lift

      From: Probation Service Multi-year deal: UNISON
      https://www.unison.org.uk › uploads › 2022/08

      For info:

      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65e0a8162f2b3b00117cd7b0/hmpps-submission-psprb-2024-25.pdf

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    3. Prison Service info:

      "At 31 December 2023 there were 29,830 staff on a full-time equivalent (FTE) basis in the remit group, a 7% increase from December 2022 (see Figure 3.1). This is the highest staffing level since 2012.... At 31 December 2023, 1,112 FTE staff (4%) were operational managers, 23,266 (78%) were Bands 3 to 5 prison officer grades and 5,451 (18%) were Operational Support Grades (OSGs)"

      Supervising/Specialist Officers (Band 4) – National
      Pay scale Pay point From 1 April 2024
      37 hour base pay- £31,995
      37 hour inc 20% unsocial - £ 38,394
      39 hour inc 2xACHP & 20% unsocial - £40,469

      ACHP = Pensionable Additional Committed Hours

      From: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66a79cb60808eaf43b50d8ce/PSPRB_23rd_Report_2024_Accessible.pdf

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  20. Union members voted in the indicative ballot that they would strike, why is this not being acted upon?

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    1. 19.02 because the unions, so enamoured with a new Labour government, have gone completely limp. Probation have the best bargaining position it has had in years, and the unions are squandering it. If there isn't a significant deal covering 2025-????, plus significant improvements to the current deal, backpaid, I'm likely to end my subs next year.

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  21. People who criticise senior managers overlook the obvious. They are working to a plan as evidenced by the number of ‘ business change,’ managers they employ. They have an ‘end game’ in mind, however they have not shared it with staff.
    They appear to be working to make the job a desk bound operation while they farm the work out to other agencies, either the police or private companies and to further drive down terms and conditions to encourage anyone with a professional qualification to leave and be replaced by data inputters.
    I can still remember being on strike over pensions some years ago when the long serving members were ignored and abused by people crossing picket lines as they believed the dispute had nothing to do with them. This divide and conquer mentality has been exploited by the organisation as they have trashed demarcation lines and trounced pay scales to the extent that clerical staff earn more than professionally qualified staff who manage the risk and make decisions. I have had conversations with managers at various grades who say, ‘ yes, you are right and I understand your grievances,’ but who do nothing to further the cause of their staff.
    Unless I am very much mistaken, there is no new money for probation staff because an idiot negotiated a long term deal at way below the rate of inflation. By my calculations, following their well deserved 5.5% pay rise, prison officers will overtake probation officers in terms of pay.

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  22. Guidance for civil service pay rises.

    "This guidance does not apply to departments which are already in approved arrangements outside of the Pay Remit Guidance, including those for which multi-year deals extending into the 2024/25 pay year have been agreed."

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-service-pay-remit-guidance-2024-to-2025/civil-service-pay-remit-guidance-2024-to-2025

    'Getafix

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    1. Although the guidance does state on what grounds these agreements can be reopened such as staff recruitment and retention...I mean it's very unlikely, but it's a chink in the armour that Napo could surely exploit

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    2. Looks like napos agreement then is not just incompetent but reckless. Ridiculous agreeing a financial term across the potential change of government when an election was in the time frame. Oh dear. I recall reading Mr Lawrence was foolishly talking up arrangements with the Tories when it was already likely they would be out. Seems to me there is no political capacity in Napo.

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  23. Today's Guardian:-

    The television personality and criminal barrister Rob Rinder has launched a blistering attack on the UK prison system, saying it fails prisoners, victims and society.

    Rinder, who has hosted courtroom reality TV shows and presented documentaries about British justice, said the prison system was repeating the same mistakes over and over. “Repeating patterns and expecting a different result is the definition of madness,” he told the Radio Times.

    Rinder recently made Britain Behind Bars: A Secret History, a three-part series for Channel 4. It examined the penal system over centuries, uncovering the experience of inmates from petty crooks to infamous gangsters and murderers.

    In his Radio Times interview, he said prisons’ focus should be on rehabilitation rather than punishment. “We do not address the events that led them there in the first place.”

    In contrast, the Norwegian prison system sought to “understand how someone has ended up committing an offence, however violent, and help them change their behaviour. It makes economic sense and it’s common sense.”

    The UK prison system failed to equip inmates with the “skills to enable them to return to society. Yet it costs about as much to send someone to prison as it does to Eton for a year. We’ve not delivered rehabilitation and, in many cases, not done justice to the word ‘punishment’,” Rinder said.

    As a barrister, Rinder specialised in international fraud and other financial crime, but also took on a case involving British soldiers charged with manslaughter after the deaths of Iraqi detainees and another concerning the innocent victims of a gang shooting.

    As well as his legal and television careers, Rinder has written two crime novels and a legal guidebook for consumers. He made a documentary about his family history in the Holocaust and another exploring the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    He recently presented a travel programme on Italy with Rylan Clark, which has fuelled speculation about a romance between the two television personalities.

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  24. Anybody else remember the very old ‘joke’.
    Union rep tells members,” the bad news is we’ve negotiated a pay cut. The good news is it’s backdated.”
    It wasn’t funny then, and it’s not funny now.

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  25. 239,015 offenders under probation supervision as at 31 March 2024 This is virtually unchanged (less than 0.5% decrease) compared to at 31 March 2023.

    The ‘recall prison population’ (those returned to prison for breaching their release conditions) was 12,199 as at 30 June 2024 (3% higher than 30 June 2023, and also a 30 June ‘record high’).

    "2.—(1) The Criminal Justice Act 2003 is amended as follows.

    (2) In section 255A(1) (further release after recall: introductory), for subsection (4) substitute—

    “(4) A person is suitable for automatic release only if—

    (a)the person—

    (i)is aged 18 or over,

    (ii)is serving a sentence of less than 12 months,

    (iii)has not been recalled on account of being charged with a serious offence, and

    (iv)is not being managed at level 2 or 3, as specified in guidance for the time being issued under section 325(8)(2), by a responsible authority under arrangements made under that section (arrangements for assessing etc risks posed by certain offenders), or

    (b)where paragraph (a) does not apply, the Secretary of State is satisfied that the person will not present a risk of serious harm to members of the public if released at the end of the automatic release period."

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  26. It occurs to me that you treat each other the way you guys treated me but never mind, I just wanted to share something from The Times from 100 years ago. "The Report pins its faith on the work of probation officers supervising remanded delinquents in their homes. This would be more effective, and more economical..."
    Full link no £ https://archive.ph/y2aJk#selection-2241.84-2241.244

    sox

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    1. From The Times: July 31, 1924
      How to turn bad boys into good citizens? In the old days the solution seemed simple enough. In The Times of 1823 it is on record that at the Old Bailey the Recorder passed sentences of transportation for seven years on 15 prisoners — “A great many of these were boys of an extremely tender age.” In the same year we read that five children, the eldest of whom was eight years old, were convicted of trespassing in a turnip field, and were sent to prison for seven days on a diet of bread and water.
      Such simple and drastic methods have not stood the test of time. We have learnt that criminals are rarely born but frequently made. Given a bad environment, with unsympathetic or cruel parents, or merely the handicap of bad housing and a family struggling against poverty, a boy’s first lapse into larceny or some anti-social mischief is intelligible enough. If society protects itself by means of severe punishment, the boy as often as not sets out on a road which leads to loss of self-respect, failure of hope, a career of crime, and even the gallows.
      There are three recognized forms of punishment for bad boys, with which the law has experimented. They are fines, the birch, and prison. In the annual report of the Children’s Branch of the Home Office, published today, the objections to all three are emphasised. The experience of magistrates, we are told, provides evidence against the use of the birch as an agent of reform. The objection to fines is that they fall on the parent and not on the delinquent. Prison is now admitted to be rarely a suitable punishment for first offenders.
      What, then, is our hope of turning these bad starters in life into useful citizens? The Report pins its faith on the work of probation officers supervising remanded delinquents in their homes. This would be more effective, and more economical, with more of these officers. Another method is the use of residential schools, especially effective where it is desirable to remove the child from home. They are more expensive, but the law provides for making the parent contribute. Experience suggests that if first offenders were sent to such schools, their devoted and hard-working superintendents might give us better results. Few of us become, simply by heredity, either good citizens or gaol-birds.

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  27. Whilst much has been made on here about junior doctors pay offer it appears all is not what it seems. In real terms it represents a real time 4% increase as much of the well trumpeted offer includes the award imposed last year. There are rumblings that it may well be rejected by the membership who are pretty annoyed the government broke an agreement by announcing it in the media before the deadline agreed with the BMA. So in effect junior doctors heard it from the media before receiving official BMA communication. Just be prepared for all to be not as it first seems with our new administration, just a warning….and yes I voted for them!

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  28. Two more HMIP reports on probation PDU’s. Utterly shocking.

    Inspectors found casework across all four of the Inspectorate’s delivery standards to be ‘Inadequate’, despite the strong strategic approach and direction shown by PDU leaders.

    https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmiprobation/media/press-releases/2024/08/essexnorthpdu2024/

    Inspectors were concerned that some staff reported feeling unsafe and had experienced racism, discrimination, and poor behaviour at their workplace. Whilst senior leaders are taking steps to address this, it is critical this work continues to be prioritised

    https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmiprobation/media/press-releases/2024/08/bedfordshirepdu2024/

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    1. If these probation services are inadequate, racist and behaviour poor there is no “strong strategic approach and direction” by PDU leaders.

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    2. Same old "excellent leaders" bollox from HMI Probation:

      its shit "despite the strong strategic approach and direction shown by PDU leaders"

      The question that is NEVER answered while the "strong excellent leaders" continue to pocket bonuses & receive accolades for their strategic genius:

      ***HOW*** is the service inadequate & shit if the leaders are so fecking good?

      Also:

      If the service is so inadequate, that must surely mean that NO-ONE has progressed up the payscales via the CBF?

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    3. CBF was just yet another initiative rolled out by the "strong strategic excellent leaders" which added workload, tasks and form filling to the plethora of ridiculous forms (and yes I include OASYS in that) already completed by overworked probatiin staff....to fill out "competencies" demonstrating "examples" of things you had done was another ill thought through initiative that angered and deprofessionalised an already demoralised workforce....whoever thought it up should be on a disciplinary and whichever excellent leaders waved it through put on performance measures.

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    4. This beggars belief, just WHAT ARE STAFF DOING? Those poor excellent leaders must be soooo let down by everyone else in the organisation.

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    5. Well said Anon 08:42 - Just simply - 'How' - is the service so inadequate but the leaders are strong. It just beggars belief.

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  29. https://insidetime.org/newsround/jump-in-homeless-releases/

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  30. 0842 well said I say ... we have all noticed this, something smells and just doesn't add up as you point out.

    It's a scandal, know the unions are not very good but surely even they could argue this one.

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  31. Heard today from a union rep that the pay deal is being reopened to allow an increase in each pay point. Looking to be backdated and paid in Oct in addition to the already agreed increase. Email due to be release tomorrow - anybody have any insight into this?

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  32. There is a statement on the Intranet - main prison and probation homepage as of 1st August that “the employer “ and unions are in pay negotiation talks. No further information

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