Wednesday 13 July 2022

Madness

From Twitter yesterday:-

Academic - "Very concerned to see that psychology and probation staff being directed to give no opinion in parole boards. This seems to make a mockery of asking for a specialist opinion. It is driven by politic rather than evidence based practice."

Nick Hardwick - Eh? 

Academic - "It will not make the public safer and will make rehabilitation more difficult and I suspect be a barrier to genuine desistance. The idea that the Justice Minister has any real idea about risk management than the professionals is frankly absurd."

Academic - "It seems that there has been directive today given to HMPPS psychology and probation staff about not being able to give recommendations to the parole board. Imagine from MoJ would be good for them to confirm or refute."

Academic - "Have seen it come up on several forensic groups practitioners are involved with. If true it’s deeply worrying state of affairs."

Nick Hardwick "Madness - again"

Academic - "It would seem so, poor sighted and not in interest of risk management, public protection or rehabilitation. Maybe Dominic Raab could clarify this is not the case."

PO - "Hastily scheduled staff briefings throughout probation. All reports now have to be written on new 'template' avoiding any mention of a 'recommendation.' How weak and poorly-led is the probation service that it was not even consulted!"

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This from Inside Time 11th July 2022:-

Parole Board will no longer see recommendations from professionals

Psychologists, prison staff and probation officers are to be banned from telling the Parole Board whether they think prisoners should be released.

Under the present system, parole panels considering applications for release are presented with reports from professionals who have worked with the prisoner. The reports set out details of the case, make risk assessments, and recommend whether the individual should be released.

Later this month the system will change so that the parole panel still receives the separate reports – but without recommendations. In a few of the most serious cases, the Justice Secretary will offer a “single view” recommendation, drawing on the evidence from the professionals. However, in the majority of cases the Parole Board will be left to reach a decision without seeing any recommendations.

The Ministry of Justice told Inside Time that the new rule would apply to “all cases that go through the parole process, regardless of sentence or offence type”.

The rule-change was approved by Parliament without debate on June 30, via a Statutory Instrument. It will take effect on July 21, the Ministry of Justice said. All staff working for HM Prison and Probation Service will be affected – including forensic psychologists who have assessed the prisoner, prison officers who have worked with them, and probation officers who have monitored them.

Justice Secretary Dominic Raab explained the reason for the rule-change in a House of Commons exchange on July 5. Labour MP Kate Green asked: “Careful parole decisions are important to minimise reoffending. Can the Justice Secretary explain why new Parole Board rules will mean that expert report writers will be forbidden to provide a view on suitability for release of the most serious offenders?”

In response, Raab said: “At the moment, when the vital question of risk is assessed, there is a risk that separate reports, whether from psychiatrists or probation officers and those who manage risk, may give conflicting recommendations. Therefore, in those serious cases … there will be one overarching Ministry of Justice view, so that the Parole Board has a very clear steer.”

Peter Dawson, director of the Prison Reform Trust, has written to the Ministry of Justice questioning the justification for the rule change, asking why no consultation was carried out, and seeking clarification of how it will work.

In his letter he said: “Given that the reports in question are gathered explicitly to inform those decisions, it seems extraordinary that the Parole Board should be denied the professional, expert opinion of the people compiling them.”

He also queried whether the professional ethics of the individuals writing the reports would allow them to decline to express an opinion if they felt that a person’s safety would be put at risk by their failure to do so.

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I see the Prison Reform Trust are on the case:-

Victoria Atkins MP 
Minister of State 
Ministry of Justice 
102 Petty France 
London SW1H 9AJ 

4 July 2022

Dear Minister, 

Further parole changes made on 30 June 

I wrote to you on 16 June about major changes to the parole system announced by press release on 5 June. I explained that those changes came into effect with no accompanying information for either staff or prisoners. We are already hearing accounts from prisoners serving very long sentences who have been informed of those changes by means of a note pushed under the cell door. But to be fair to prison staff, there is still nothing that they can draw on to explain the practical implications, or what prisoners can do to meet the new tests you have set out. Your failure to prepare for such a significant change has created a risk to the safety of the people most affected by it, and distress for the families on whom they depend for support both now and in the future. 

So it is deeply concerning that you should now have repeated this inadequate process in the publication on 30 June of new Parole Board rules. The majority of those new rules implement a policy on public hearings on which you consulted widely and published a detailed reasoned response to consultation. While we disagreed with the policy you chose to pursue, the process of arriving at it was transparent and resulted in detailed provision designed to meet the many concerns which respondents raised. As a result, it should at least be possible to explain to prisoners and their families what those various safeguards are, and it is disappointing that you have chosen not to do so at the moment the policy is implemented. 

For the remainder of the new rules, so far as we are aware there has been no process of consultation or consideration outside the department of their practical implications. In particular, provision is made for a “single view” from the Secretary of State to inform Parole Board panels considering both release and transfer to open conditions. The only explanatory text accompanying the statutory instrument appears to be contained in the accompanying press release, which says:
 Recommendations for release or moves to open prison for the most serious offenders – including murderers, rapists, terrorists and those who have caused or allowed the death of a child – will also now be made by the Deputy Prime Minister before going to the Parole Board for its final decision. 
Although the general public is unlikely to realise this, we assume that what it means in practice is that those recommendations will be made in the overwhelming majority of cases by officials acting with delegated authority. So, similar questions arise as in my previous (so far unanswered) letter: 
  • To which cases will this process apply? The press release appears to imply that it will be a “top tier” of 700 or so cases annually, but of course the Parole Board rules apply to all cases considered by the board. 
  • Who will those officials be? 
  • How will they be trained and what will be the basis of their expertise? 
  • What access will prisoners have to them? 
  • What access will parole board panels have to them? 
  • To what criteria and guidance will they work in forming a single view on the Secretary of State’s behalf? 
The statutory instrument raises at least two other questions on which the accompanying press release is wholly silent. 

First, it forbids report writers (and, on the face of it all report writers whether or not employed by the Secretary of State) to provide a view on the prisoner’s suitability for either release or transfer to open conditions. Given that the reports in question are gathered explicitly to inform those decisions, it seems extraordinary that the Parole Board should be denied the professional, expert opinion of the people compiling them. So far as we are aware, there has been no explanation given for this unusual prohibition. So it would be helpful for prisoners and their families to be told: 
  • The reason for this prohibition on the expression of a professional opinion. 
  • To which cases it applies (all, or the “top tier”, or some other yet to be defined cohort) 
  • To which report writers it applies, and how such a prohibition will be enforced if it applies to report writers not directly employed by the Secretary of State 
  • Whether the prohibition is compatible with the professional ethics of the report writers concerned. For example, can a report writer decline to express an opinion in a case where they believe a person’s safety would be put at risk by not doing so? 
  • Whether it will apply retrospectively, with opinions from previous dossiers excluded, or censored from dossiers currently under preparation or disclosed 
  • Whether officials acting under the Secretary of State’s delegated authority who will have the freedom to express an opinion will also be involved in explaining to prisoners in the years leading up to parole what they must do to satisfy them that either a move to open conditions or release may be recommended
Secondly, in obvious contradiction to the statement in the accompanying press release, the new rules suggest that the Secretary of State will form a “single view” on a prisoner’s suitability for release only “where considered appropriate”. So it would be helpful to know:
  • What the test of “appropriateness” will be for the expression of a view on release by the Secretary of State prior to a parole hearing 
  • In how many cases the Secretary of State anticipates that test of appropriateness will be met 
  • Why, in the remaining cases, the Secretary of State would choose to reserve their view until after the Parole Board has reached a conclusion, and what the implications of that delay might be for the prisoner’s ability to present their case in full knowledge of the Secretary of State’s concerns 
  • Whether the expression of a single view on suitability for open conditions will also be subject to a similar test or will, as the absence of a reference to it in the amendment rules implies, be supplied in all cases. 
These are all wholly predictable questions and the people who are currently struggling to understand the practical implications of this chaotic series of announcements will no doubt have many more. I cannot over-emphasise the urgency of answering them, including the questions in my previous letter of 16 June. Creating this confusion for prisoners and families is both unfair and dangerous. Moreover, it puts the people whose job it is to motivate prisoners to progress in an impossible position, undermining the relationships of trust and confidence on which the system depends. Please give these matters the urgent and detailed attention they deserve. 

Yours sincerely, 

Peter Dawson 
Director Prison Reform Trust

51 comments:

  1. error spotted - Inside Time article is 2022, not 2020

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  2. Not only can we no longer provide a written recommend, we are instructed not to provide a verbal one, even if directly asked for one, and we are 'never' to disagree with the Secretary of State's recommendation, doesn't state what the penalty would be if we did, but I guess I will find out soon, never been one to keep my mouth shut it I disagree with someone else's risk assessment.

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    1. So let the Secretary of State write the parole report. If they don’t want a recommendation from probation, don’t bother ask for a probation report.

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  3. If you can bear it... Raab's rant on commercial loo roll:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18118472/baby-p-mother-dominic-raab/

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  4. "Therefore, in those serious cases … there will be one overarching Ministry of Justice view, so that the Parole Board has a very clear steer.”

    When the only opinion allowed to be given is that of the State, then parole for some will be solely a political decision and not based on any notion of Criminal Justice.
    It hijacked the parole boards independence and makes it an agent of State.
    It's the Tory way.

    'Getafix

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  5. This is now the 'tone' of politics versus the professional world as viewed thru the eyes of The Telegraph:

    "Dominic Raab scores first victory against Parole Board as he blocks child sex offender release"

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/05/27/dominic-raab-scores-first-victory-against-parole-board-blocks/

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  6. Will the Judiciary now please speak up? It has clear implications regarding sentences and what they mean in terms of Justice. This is your tariff but err, well I know it’s not a Whole Life Order but depending on who is Secretary of State at that time, well they may really object to you ever being released, whatever progress you may make in custody so err, well that’s it really …..

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  7. What these measures mean is simple, all parole board decisions must take account of the Daily Mail and other gutter press headlines. Anything that doesn't amount to further punishment won't be tolerated. I have no idea how the MoJ could make this any more obvious and don't hold your breath waiting for a Labour government to fix it. They won't.

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    1. Exactly, Labour are utterly useless. Some of the left think people should stay and fight, but fighting could also include leaving the party. We should push for our unions to cease or reduce funding to them if not representing our interests.

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  8. I agree that any decision to release will be politically motivated and media dictated.
    The prison population will rise at the same time as the government are complaining that they cannot staff new prisons.
    The PO role has been reduced to that of a data compiler however, if the deputy PM makes the decision and it backfires on them, will they accept responsibility or stat that the report writer didn’t give them all of the facts.
    What do you think?

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  9. Apparently they haven't figured out what this will do to Exec release!
    Are they gonna try and bodge a way of applying for exec release without applying for release?

    Massive parole delays and judicial reviews incoming, as well as more experienced POs bailing out as we see first hand the political interference for the first time.

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  10. I despair! Thankfully, I am now a retired probation officer and therefore will not have to go through the verbal linguistics in front of a parole board that officers will now have to do. (How do you make a recommendation without making a recommendation?) It beggars belief that the very officers who are not allowed to give an informed view regarding progression are the same officers that are then expected to manage the case.
    Risk of harm assessments and how to manage those risks are the very lifeblood of Probation. Those skills would appear to matter not a jot because if the SofS makes the recommendation. Have any senior managers spoke out about this?

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  11. From Twitter:-

    "This IS madness. Some of my career was spent managing an IPP/lifer caseload, giving evidence and recommendations to the parole board. They sometimes didn't agree and sometimes did. But it was a core function of my job which appears to be taken away for spurious reasons."

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  12. From Twitter:-

    "It was a standalone statutory instrument which wasn't even consulted on or debated..."

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    1. From Twitter:-

      "Thanks, yes I saw this thread last night. I have no words. Well, that’s a lie :) does show that we didn’t miss it in the Root and Branch review..it just snuck in. And yet another significant change without open discussion."

      "Or maybe his intentions were there just not explicit? Just found the letter relating to the statutory instrument: https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/22959/documents/168310/default/

      "That's really helpful. It's about the part of the branch root review related to the rare occasions when the secretary of state is represented at parole boards. So, only their view to be presented. Why this is being applied across the board makes even less sense now!"

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    2. From Twitter:-

      "Quite! So the rationale was to avoid conflicting opinions on recommendations, does everyone always share a harmonious view of risk though? Interesting that it uses the term ‘factual assessment’ of risk as if judgement plays no role."

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    3. From Twitter:-

      "All so true. It is an interesting word to use, especially when a politically influenced assessment is going to contain overt bias in any clinical judgement!"

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  13. Welcome to Fascist UK plc, a wholly owned subsidiary of the global operation run by Emiratis, Glitterati Fascistis, Russian & Chinese Oligarchs, and assorted media tycoons.

    Bizarrely, the richest of the candidates to replace johnson is probably the least right-leaning of them all. But that won't last long if he ascends to the throne.

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  14. Man down pub say's PPCS complex casework teams will be making recommendations based on probation officer risk assessments and reports. Vacancies incoming as PPCS realising workload to increase hundredfold. Government ministers only consulted on high profile and critical few cases. Politically led agenda to control recall release, reduce IPP in custody and appease public sentiment.

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  15. From Twitter:-

    "Haven't had the time to digest these changes taking away our ability to make recommendations to the Parole Board. Such a massive change which seems to have come out of nowhere? Just can't get my head around it. Team members concerned it's dumbing down our profession."

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    1. Yes course it might be but what profession exactly is it then. Has anyone not grasped it means less work and whether your opinion is of any value or insightful. Be glad to be out of it

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  16. From Twitter:-

    "I feel very uncomfortable with the new guidance around parole. It seems as if we are no longer trusted to do our jobs properly and that our opinions no longer matter. Despite not being allowed to make a recommendation I'm sure we will still get the blame if there's an SFO."

    "That’s my worry! And how many SFO’s will it take for them to realise the value of professional assessment and the resulting recommendation?"

    "As a COM brain was fried after today's briefing! What's even more concerning is that more POMs weren't made of this despite changes being implemented imminently as of tomorrow!"

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    1. This was exactly my thought too...why the rushed approach, why the immediacy and why the lack of notice....it contributes so much to the apathy and resentment I feel for this organisation....the lack of respect for the workforce, let alone the offenders is frankly staggering....the corporate messaging has once again reduced us to machines,by telling us what must happen asof tomorrow, failing to treat us with respect to explain why?

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    2. 20:53 you were never trusted to do your job properly. All those probation quality assurance and audit tools are to monitor not help you.

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  17. Had quite a discussion about this today.
    The conclusion?
    How can any report, prepared by a competent professional, not indicate the authors recommendations by the nature of the reports content?

    'Getafix

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  18. "A statutory instrument being laid today (30 June 2022) will allow the measures to take effect from 21 July 2022."

    Raab's letter to Justice Committee:

    https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/22959/documents/168310/default/

    "In the Root and Branch Review I signalled my intention to make changes to the way that the Secretary
    of State’s view on the prisoner’s suitability for release is presented at parole hearings. Currently, prison
    and probation staff who have worked closely with the prisoner prepare written reports and the Parole
    Board Rules require those reports to include a recommendation on the prisoner’s suitability for release
    or transfer to open prison. This can lead to separate, conflicting recommendations from within the
    Ministry of Justice. While that may be to be expected when it comes to assessments of risk, I do not
    believe it is appropriate to have diverse recommendations on the ultimate and overarching question of
    release. Therefore, I have decided to amend the requirement so that operational staff will no longer
    provide a written recommendation of their own; their reports will now focus on providing a factual
    assessment of the prisoner’s level of risk.

    In addition, I am adopting a new approach whereby, in the most serious cases, I have the opportunity to
    present a single Secretary of State view to the Parole Board which takes account of all the evidence and
    will be overseen by ministers."

    The Parole Board Rules 2019:

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2019/1038/made

    The root-&-branch review:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1064480/root-branch-review-parole-system.pdf

    The amendments of SI 2022 number 717 as laid 30/6/22:

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2022/717/introduction/made

    (22) In Part B of the Schedule—
    (a) before paragraph 1, insert—
    “1Z.—(1) Reports relating to the prisoner should present all relevant information and a factual assessment pertaining to risk, as set out in the paragraphs of Part B of this Schedule, but the report writer must not present a view or recommendation as to the prisoner’s suitability for release or move to open prison conditions.
    (2) Where considered appropriate, the Secretary of State will present a single view on the prisoner’s suitability for release.”;

    (b) in paragraph 4, omit “, including views on suitability for release on licence as well as compliance with any sentence plan”;

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  19. Parole Board members are annoyed, frustrated, and stressed at the constant stream of changes. These new rules allow Raab to make decisions that will please Mail and Sun readers who don't want certain types of offender living in their villages and towns. Parole Board members will find ways to circumvent these bizarre new rules where they can. The PO who knows and asseses the case knows better than anyone about risk and should be allowed a recommendation! This is further de-skilling and stripping the remaining meat off the bones of the battered justice system. P.S contrary to popular belief, PPCS are NOT the Parole Board!

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  20. If the government want to please tabloid readers then change the law and legislation - fix the problem at the root rather than attack the branches. Idiotic raab and his friends are blinkered idiots

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  21. I’ve not been on this blog for a while but thought I’d come and have a look, because of the Parole announcements. Nothing changes as I can see there is a lot of moaning and negativity, especially unfairly target towards top brass. If inspection after inspection says the top brass is doing good, then why would should we say otherwise. The inspectorate is independent so it must be true

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    1. They describe the parole board as being independent too.

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    2. But how do we know what excellent leadership is if we are not in those roles. Inspection after inspection say the same things, find similar Themes even when different brass, do the inspections or it is headed up by someone different. I’m confused as they are independent and have hammered areas down when needed to do so, so they do call it out. I’d say, on the whole, they must be seeing what they are printing so we need to trust the conclusions

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  22. From Twitter:-

    "I remember the CRC’s being inspected. Staff poor, management excellent as a recurring theme. All I hear now is develop more resilience with no or little acknowledgement of how bad things are."

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  23. Agencies assessing risk and monitoring people released on licence are not to express an opinion at parole board meetings?
    Its doesn't seem to be joined up thinking when I read the following.

    https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2022/07/14/warnings-over-inconsistent-monitoring-of-criminals-after-release-from-jail/

    'Getafix

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  24. Hot off the press is the inspectorate report on Mappa. Dont have the time atm, but confidently expect to have a hail of emails about improvement of my performance and instructions to log into a slough of e-learning. My one major suggestion for upping the generic PO Mappa performance is to sort out the wretched IT so that we dont have to cut and paste, cut and paste, cut and paste. Auto-populating forms. While I am on it, a button on the email system which adds the email traffic into the case file.

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    1. Been saying that for years. It is disrespectful and a waste of PO skills to repeat the same information on non-auto fill forms for numerous forums. How much time do we spend evidencing what we do compared to time spent doing it? In my view there is a serious imbalance . It would be respectful for employers to enable operational staff to actually work on reducing risk instead of clogging the arteries of the operational system with data inputting and more data inputting..

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  25. What drives me to produce a parole report of quality is that it should construct an evidence based case for either release or otherwise. ie to support my reccommendation. If the author is not allowed to make a reccommendation, even at the hearing, then motivation to produce a report of quality is going to wane. This might be true of other overworked POs. So quality falls off. This then prompts some heavy handed quality assurance, mandatory e-training, briefings etc. The end result is more demoralised overworked staff deprived of any professional satisfaction, jumping through the hoops invented by newly appointed PRATs (Parole Report Assurance Tsars) and, the bottom line, a further erosion of justice for the individual and the community.

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    1. From Twitter:-

      "I think this is the wrong move by the SoS. That said, the production of a quality, balanced report for a safe and proportionate release decision to be made should be what ‘drives a PO’; not writing a loaded report to justify your recommendation. It was never a POs call to make."

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    2. Fair comment, but I said "Evidence based" not loaded. However, any assessment and report is by its nature going to draw towards a conclusion as to whether release is tenable. It was not my intention to suggest that the author of a parole asessment starts with a conclusion in mind, but the process of assessment gets to a conclusion.

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  26. Agree 07.16 - Seetec Senior management were deemed as strong management by the inspectorate, staff were deemed rubbish. They were then able to put staff through hell because of the failed inspection. Half the stuff that was supposed to be undertaken we were never informed of until after the event. Whilst paying themselves more money than seniors in NPS and leaving frontline staff on a pittance. Regularly dining out at expensive restaurants paid by the MOJ. They were a strong team who all covered each others arses.

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  27. From Twitter:-

    "This is such an illogical decision. Removing the option to make a clear recommendation during parole reports is a serious undermining of the role of probation officers…..and the reasoning is a load of crap. Shows Raab doesn’t have a clue about the justice system."

    "We absolutely will be campaigning against the parole changes along with other stakeholders. It is an absolute disgrace and has many dangerous consequences for probation, prisoners and public." (Napo Tania Bassett)

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  28. A lot of people seem to be missing the fact this is a logical step with probation being part of the civil service. Whether we like it or not, being civil servants means the secretary of state is ultimately our boss. And if our boss doesn't want someone releasing than logically we can't have probation officers undermining them by making an alternative recommendation.

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    1. Except "our boss" as you put it, is a political position, and the rule of law dictates separation of powers between the state and the judiciary...the parole board could always make a recommendation contrary the advice provided...a parole report which outlines an assessment of the individual and the likelihood of any further reoffending and whether their risk factors are likely to be managed under the proposed risk management plan is still the purpose of a report whether we recommend release or not. Where it gets political is when the secretary of state, a political position, tells its staff what the recommendation should be

      The European Court of human rights ruled against tye UK on many occasions due to the secretary of state having intervened to prevent someone's release. This is as much about the erosion of human rights as it is the denigration of the role of probation.

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  29. Can anyone explain what a "factual risk assessment" is? (Or what Dominic Raab thinks it is?)

    We were always taught that a risk assessment is a judgement about the likelihood of a given event happening, along with the potential harm it might cause. "Likelihood" and "potential" both refer to future events. Things that might happen in the future cannot be facts in the present.

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  30. 21:09, the issue is that ‘our boss,’ may not be conducting a risk assessment so much as a popularity contest conducted by the media or other vested interests.
    Politicians are not neutral, and nor are they usually trained and skilled in the assessment of risk of re-offending.
    The concept of case management was sold on the basis of a medical model. High risk patients required intervention from a consultant and as risk reduced, the house doctor then the senior nurse etc.
    The proposed model appears to say that the consultant makes the diagnosis and plans the intervention then the senior administrator undertakes the operation.The consultant or a minion will of course be held responsible if the patient expires.

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  31. but "our boss" isn't remotely interested in doing the job he's paid handsomely to do:

    https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/23087/documents/169101/default/

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  32. Dear Lord Chancellor,
    We were extremely disappointed to hear yesterday that you will not be giving evidence to our committee next week, as previously arranged.
    On 22 June, you introduced the Bill of Rights Bill to the House of Commons. The Bill will repeal the Human Rights Act 1998 and change the way in which rights under the European Convention on Human Rights are given effect in UK law. It is the most important piece of rights legislation this country has seen for nearly a quarter of a century. It did not, despite the request of this Committee and others, receive prelegislative scrutiny. It is therefore crucial that we are able to question you on the contents of the Bill, along with other pressing human rights issues.
    In responding to our report on the Government’s consultation on the Human Rights Act on 6 July 2022, you told us “I look forward to the opportunity to address the Government’s proposals during my appearance before the Committee on 20 July.” It is a commitment you referred to in the House of Commons Chamber on 22 June. On 21 June you had written to us and chairs of other committees to say that the Bill of
    Rights would have wide-reaching implications which would receive extensive scrutiny in both Houses, and that you looked forward to working with us throughout this process.
    Whilst we understand that there are pressures that come with holding the dual roles of Lord Chancellor and Deputy Prime Minister, accountability to Parliament should take priority. This date has been in our diaries and yours for some time. It is not clear why, at such short notice, other matters should take priority.
    We therefore ask you to reconsider your decision not to attend on 20 July. We expect that if you do not attend then, you will commit to appearing before us during the week of 12 September instead. I would be grateful if you could respond to this letter by the end of Monday 18 July.

    Joanna Cherry QC MP

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  33. Can't name any, but theres apparently 91 "resettlement' prisons, who, together with Gregg's the bakery are helping to cut reoffending and keep the public safe.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/thousands-of-offenders-in-work-as-uk-businesses-help-break-cycle-of-crime

    'Getafix

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