Sunday 17 January 2021

Food For Thought

Prologue

A colleague I haven't spoken to for some time rang me the other day and we were musing on what the future might have in store for probation in a post-Covid world. Our discussion very much reflected a similar conversation with another colleague of even greater experience. The view was that probation is becoming increasingly irrelevant, a situation hastened by civil service bureaucratic control and the de-personalised effect of Covid operation. Effectively its no longer serving any meaningful and useful purpose and in a post-Covid world of inevitable government spending cuts, its further decline in relevance, begun with separation from a social work base, would see its effective disappearance. 

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I now have two friends who have contracted Covid and both became extremely ill, despite both being generally health conscious and neither having underlying health conditions, neither required hospitalization, but both suffered ongoing health ramifications, with one requiring a recent admission to hospital and further tests. The London directors messaging was totally out of kilter with the lived experience of practitioners and the focus on business as usual matters was patronising...the reference to staff expressing "indifference" in the staff survey for simply entering "neither agree or disagree" seemed to discount what a large proportion of staff meant when they entered their answers, and the focus on "recording in delius, reviewing risk registers, updating OASYS" failed to grasp the reality of the lived experience of most practitioners.

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I have just found out that my colleague who sits within two meters of me tested positive for coronavirus on the weekend. No one from management informed me or the rest of the team of the potential increased risks. No increased cleaning. Hot desking is a daily occurrence. I have no faith in my employer protecting me. As a result I have had to stop providing care for a relative whom is shielding. There is a perception that as prisons provide opportunities for testing that no other precautions are now needed. I fear raising this issue and being redeployed.

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Oh I'm so, so, sorry to hear this...so stressful for you and others involved no doubt. Yes, the fear we all feel raising legitimate concerns is extremely sad and very worrying...why else do we all ensure our comments are anonymous on these blogs? The fear engendered comes from those at the top, who constantly scratch their heads wondering why their staff are so disenchanted, while issuing diktats about recording, CRISSA, OASYS reviews, risk registers, HETE data, with seemingly little care for the people involved, both staff and service users alike.

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I am - if I survive it - going to wait till the pandemic is at least on the wane before I make any decision about my future in the Probation Service. I realise that the anxiety and, frankly, despair at what my job has become, might be amplified by Covid anxiety and gloom. All the probation officers in the room I work in are at various stages in this: one has got his early retirement pension forecast, I am asking for mine, and another is actively looking for alternative work. That is over a century of experience looking to walk out of the door at first opportunity. The micromanagement and the utter failure of policy makers to recognise the pragmatic reality of our work is soul destroying. Telling me that the increasing layers of recording and scrutiny are "for my protection if anything - SFO - happens" is so not reassuring.

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Your so right so must be nearly 60 to recall those days as I do. Working with modern qualified staff who are POs but really they are nothing much more than over paid typist clerks. Talking to them in supervision they type into the PC while still talking at you. It is not what we know which is why they could never picture returning [to] professional practice. Old lot out soon as.

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I'm with you, a post degree CQSW was always, and a 12 month probationary period, a good foundation for learning - oh how this has been diluted. I so remember the broad church of colleagues, some of whom I disagreed with politically but never doubted their integrity, the fountains of knowledge of many SPO's (granted not all) and CPO's willing to challenge govt policy even under Thatcher. I used to respect my management because they welcomed challenge and wanted POs to think outside the box. I am also tired of this but it is not Covid, which I can rationalise but the shit from above 6th.

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We are cannon fodder. Frontline so needed at work, "hidden heroes" - thanks for the management clap. But not worthy of a priority jab or a pay rise. Probation in a parlous state: Graylings omnishambles has meant we have attention of policy makers, when actually the mission is much best served when it is off grid. So now we have fuck all resources, and running interference from ambitious fast track numpties in the civil service whose ignorance and ambition will quite possibly snuff out the glimmering embers of what was a valuable service and a joyful place to work.

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Why is CRISS crap? Seems reasonable outline for a meeting (Check in, Review, Intervention / Issue, Summarise, Set task). I don't use the same myself in my profession but similar and pursue a collaborative agenda with my clients. It allows for an efficient and focussed use of time.

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Great question, but you have to understand the background and context. In principle, the idea of a more structured and focussed way of engagement is not what staff resist....CRISS was initially rolled out via a 3 day training programme, SEEDS, which allowed the time for staff to engage with the material and its rationale.

However, this "way of engagement" quickly got replaced by a "recording convention" - so staff recording exactly what they did and what was said under the various "headings" of check-in, review, implement and so on with prescribed guidance re-designing what CRISS actually means to fit the process of recording. The mantra became "did you record using CRISS" format, "has CRISS been used?", "let's do audits of staff to check if they are recording correctly", irrespective of whether the sessions themselves used that format or how well a session was or was not performed. Staff soon realised they were spending double the amount of time transcribing out their appointments, coupled with organisational diktats from senior managers which essentially said "you MUST use CRISSA in your case recording - it's MANDATORY - we will monitor its use".

Somewhere along the line, the "I" (which was initially "implement the sentence plan"), became "intervention", with managers chucking bundles of 121 worksheets and exercises onto the intranet. The mantra now seems to be "deliver some form of exercise, print out a worksheet, we don't particularly care what it is and for god's sake just, record, record, record".

When you couple the above with other layers of "recording" which have come about over the past few years, you'll get a sense of the hostility CRISS operates within: HETE data, personal circumstances data, professional judgement entries, NSI updating, risk registers, officer diary, OASYS QA standards....all of these require entirely separate processes, within a "case recording system" that is not intuitive, with each entry being in disparate parts of the system, with meaningless "check boxes" which must be filled out each time, otherwise your entry gets rejected. Then of course, couple this with manager's favourite mantra: If you didn't record it, it didn't happen!

You'll see in various posts recently staff referring to themselves as "typist clerks". I see myself as a data entry officiant. The pandemic has brought in this idea that "supervision sessions can only be 15 minutes long", with people scratching their heads as to how that can possibly be meaningful and the organisational response is "we are delivering vital public protection work" which pays no attention to people's lived reality. Lo and behold loads of staff are currently saying "actually, I've noticed some of my people engaging MUCH better on the phone rather than in the office" - no shit sherlock, because you are actually listening to the person and meaningfully responding, one of the most powerful "interventions" known to man, rather than chucking exercise 6.2.9 from "targets for change" in their face.

So please appreciate that staff feel overwhelmed with data entry and data recording, and managers push the data recording agenda aggressively, pandemic or not. Staff's fingers worn to the bone, and meanwhile people have lost a sense of whether any of this has any meaning - does any of this have any impact onto the re-offending rates of the people we are working for.....?

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Thank you. That explains the hostility. It must be demoralising. What you describe sounds like you are all very busy achieving very little other than producing a record to be audited.

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Well it's not been a real job since we lost social work it's all admin and order now.

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I know many social work qualified officers believe DipPs and PQUIP qualified staff have little understanding of 'the real job' but that's simply untrue. I'm DipPs qualified but it was by working with social work trained colleagues that I was inspired to become a PO in the first place. I had then - and retain now - many of the same values as earlier qualified officers, and the notion that I don't do a 'real job', or only do admin tasks is frankly insulting. And it's getting tired. There is much valid discussion of the deskilling of officers but please don't assume that there aren't still staff out here doing the best we can for our clients. It's demoralising to hear those with more experience belittle a job into which many still put a huge amount of work and commitment.

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Hello Xxxxx and others....I'm so relieved to hear you have the values and ethics which matter, and hope you are surrounded by trainees who have the same - that is not, however, my experience. I also trained via the DIPS route; as I recall it we (or at least in my area) did training on skills like CBT, solution focussed work, Trotter's working with involuntary relationships, pro-social modelling and the famous "motivational interviewing" - the involvement of the service user in their own "journey" via meaningful sentence plan goals became the bedrock of my day to day sessions; at that time I felt I had a good grounding in skills, with academic background, coupled with 1-2-1 support via a PTA who really encouraged/discussed both my ethos, attitude, skills and I was able to work with a relatively small group of service users whose offence/risk profiles were on the "lower" end of the risk scale...not to mention of course we would write regular PSRs, and built up to more complicated matters towards the end of our 2 year period.

What I find now is that within weeks PQUIPS are suddenly dealing with DV, sex offences, and gangs, with little support and lots of ego.... Sentence plans have become little more than stock phrases about "addressing my drugs use" or "managing my risk", and one to one appointments deliver little meaning other than "monitoring", "interrogating" and "questioning", "checking" they have done certain things, or "referring" them off elsewhere. Is it me, or has probation become little more than a referral and triage service, pushing the person's issues off to another organisation "with more expertise". The ethos of probation training has become about completing wonderfully well written OASYS, marking CRISSA entries, and ensuring "risk is managed"....god forbid that people are encouraged to get to know the wider family unit, involving those individuals in the sentence plan or the person's "journey", or involving the person as their own agent of change.

Please people tell me if I'm wrong, but that's how I see it. Just take a look at the "mandatory" training we are all threatened with sacking if we don't do - what a pile of shite! Did any of the modules on DV, child and adult safeguarding encourage any meaningful supervision sessions, or any of the social work ethos and skills which many of us lament the loss of. Nope! It was all "soundbites" and "acronyms" - we all knew we could pass the test at the end without wasting our time reading the shite which preceded it, and it's this kind of thing (in my view) that angers and belittles the workforce and creates the resentment so palpable on this blog.

The competency of the people is not the issue, but the training ethos very much creates the officers values and ethics.

62 comments:

  1. The criminal justice system is facing soaring numbers of infections tearing through prisons and the courts.

    There were confirmed Covid outbreaks in 76 of England and Wales’s 117 prisons at the start of last week, including all those in London, leaked official figures show. Prisoner infections were up 46% in the week to last Monday, with 498 prisoners testing positive.

    The death toll among prison staff is not known, but 51 prisoners have died including four in the week to January 11, with a further 28 dying in the community under supervision.

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  2. Do we know the death rate of probation staff under Covid?

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  3. Covid has taken its toll on the courts, with 599 court users and staff — including 69 judges — in England and Wales testing positive for the virus in the past seven weeks. Covid cases have been detected at 196 courts across England and Wales in that time and threaten to increase the growing backlog of cases.

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  4. Sad situation covid will be used to further finish probation. 121 work will no longer be safe . Benefits offices of full screens and limited access to see only serious hr cases and then we will melt down. We are de skilled De professionalised and have a reduced role. What careers will there be in the new double dip recession .

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  5. I work in a prison where there is an outbreak, all members of staff have access to weekly testing on a voluntary basis. I saw the POA's comment that there is a need to review the care of prison officers, however it is evident just from walking around the prison on a daily basis, it is these officers who are putting us at risk, not wearing face masks, definitely not social distancing, changing the sign on the door of the number of staff allowed in an office from 4 to 14, believing this is funny. After work they congregate in the car park. As a probation officer I am told I have to go on to a locked down wing to conduct a report interview, fortunately I have an SPO who won't allow this, but the parole board and the prisoner's solicitor may not agree. In prisons it has been business as usual throughout the pandemic, we can't put processes on hold, prisoners have to progress through the system, despite having staff redeployed to assist the community, whilst our backlogs just got bigger. We have seventy cases each and answer to the expectations of the NPS and the prison governor, we are exhausted.

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    1. “but the parole board and the prisoner's solicitor may not agree”

      So what!, it’s not up to them. This is the problem with probation, it gives in to easily.

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  6. There's some truth in that view. Capitulation, taking the easiest route, not challenging management decisions, defining oneself as over-important, rolling with the punches, bashing on regardless - all have been common traits in the probation world in recent years. Its as if taking a principles stand is no longer an option, there's always a reason why one 'has to', e.g. citing others' needs as the 'reason':

    "we can't put processes on hold, prisoners have to progress through the system"

    But you *can* put processes on hold. Prisoners' progress through the prison system is not solely YOUR responsibility. You are merely one part of a bigger machine.

    In badly designed machines parts can & do fail. Its usually not the part's fault.

    Bad engineers will simply insist on replacing the parts without looking at why they failed.

    Smart engineers will look at the machine as a whole & try to work out what made the parts fail.

    The vast amount of damage caused by TR & those who were complicit in its implementation has given the impression that the parts of the machine labelled 'probation' are not necessary anymore. In their attempt to re-engineer the system they've re-designed the 'probation' parts to be passive relay switches that process data, rather than active moving parts that respond to & effect change.

    Probation work has never been infallible, nor has it ever been irreplaceable. But it does not need to be pursued as if life itself will end without it.

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  7. easiest deal in history:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/17/shock-brexit-charges-are-hurting-us-say-small-british-businesses

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  8. From an amusing US tv news report:

    "ALLEN: Jack McDonald served Palm Beach as mayor and member of the town council for 16 years. When Trump, in the 1990s, proposed converting the palatial estate into a private club, the town agreed with a stipulation. McDonald says no one can stay in any of the club's guest suites more than three nonconsecutive weeks every year.

    MCDONALD: The council did not want it to become a residence for anyone.

    ALLEN: The letter, recently sent to town officials, said Trump had already violated the agreement by staying there longer than the 21-day annual maximum. McDonald doubts town officials have monitored the president's stays, but moving in and making Mar-A-Lago his legal residence, he says, will likely force the town to act.

    MCDONALD: The town would have to decide - you know, how are we going to enforce it? Is it a code violation? Is it a violation of the declaration of use?

    ALLEN: Palm Beach has a history of disputes with Trump. They've involved a flagpole taller than allowed by the town code, plans for a dock that was rejected and a helipad. It was built but, after he leaves office, is supposed to be removed. The town's current mayor recently told the Palm Beach Post officials will be seeking legal advice on how to deal with Trump's move to Mar-A-Lago.

    GREENE: We're in a very divisive time now. And a lot of people are - they don't like his politics. They don't like his personality. They don't like the way he treats people. They want to pay him back."

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    1. Trump Junior still tweeting shite every day. This time its a manipulated video of Biden with the comment "Yikes. If he was a Republican the 25th amendment talk would be trending and rightfully so."

      Twitter have labelled it as "contains manipulated images"

      Like father, like son... vile, vicious & pathetic.

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  9. Personally I’d tell you to feck off. I’ve been doing this job many years and can tell you that the stories of yesteryear mean diddly squat. Our employers have long since changed our ‘core values’ into something none of us understand. There is no probation legacy. Must of us do it to pay the bills, until a better opportunity comes along.

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  10. The directors heading the probation ship are all long enough in the tooth to know what the probation history and identity used to be. The fact is they do not care because they are the ones that helped destroy it. What matters is pleasing the Ministry of Justice and securing their MBE’s.

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  11. "Most of us do it to pay the bills, until a better opportunity comes along."

    We have a Winner!!

    Music to Ms Romeo's ears, & if you send her an email with your employee number you'll earn yourself a cash bonus in January's pay packet.

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  12. "Most of us do it to pay the bills, until a better opportunity comes along."

    That's precisely the problem.

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    1. 21.48. I disagree with you. Chasing ‘core values’ which no longer exist is actually what directors want us to do. Meanwhile we put up with crap pay, terms and conditions while deluding ourselves we’re doing something meaningful. In reality, the very same directors are the ones that made sure ‘core values’ of any credible nature no longer exist.

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  13. 21.41 I doubt many care about all that. We are not well paid, nor are we treated well by our employers. Many I know in probation have debt, are renting or with huge mortgages, and have limited experience outside of probation. The qualification isn’t very broad and doesn’t provide qualifying status into other careers. For effs sake, it takes 20 years to earn and extra £10,000. We’ve atrocious pay scales and I doubt I’m buddy enough with managers to get much out of performance linked pay. Probation is a shite career and nobody gives a damn about core values - what the hell do they even mean.

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  14. So, if I'm reading this right, UK Probation Service provision is essentially a layer of bullying managers cheerfully measuring each others' [metaphorical] dicks while everyone else is scrabbling about desperate to please them for a handful of thruppeny-bits, with half an eye on the scullery window in case its left partially open & there's a chance to escape?

    And these desperately exploited souls are supposedly supervising & 'rehabilitating' the dysfunctional, the disenfranchised & the dispossessed?

    Sounds pretty fucked up to me.

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    1. Directors (formally Probation Chief Officers) and senior managers are the bullying managers cheerfully measuring each others' [metaphorical] dicks.

      Middle-managers (the greener the better) are the gate-guards scrabbling about desperate to please them for a handful of thruppeny-bits.

      The Probation Officers (usually fresh out of Uni and too bushy tailed to ask questions) and below are the desperately exploited souls that are supposedly supervising.

      All with half an eye on the scullery window in case its left partially open & there's a chance to escape.

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  15. Let's They're a light try and bring a morsel of reality to this. They're mostly measuring each others' (metaphorical) vaginas.

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  16. Tell this to management they care less each day and the pay is a proem PSO get a lot less for the same job. They want to reduce all grades in time you'll have something to complain about then. Pps are in clover in comparison but I don't see a lot of PSO complaining woe is me. For an admin job po are well up spo a complete waste and sci overpaid for showing off.

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  17. [sarcasm alert for those of a nervous disposition]

    What a fucking place the UK has become. In the context of our day-to-day lives, the worry, the stress, the heartache, the loss, the grieving, the pain...

    Now people are crying "foul" about something called 'dancing on ice' (anyone?); it seems it's been UTTERLY RUINED because a contestant voiced a view that the UK government is failing the nation's children.

    Fuck me; before you know it there'll be professional footballers speaking out about child poverty, school-meals and others proclaiming "black lives matter" ...

    How dare they!!! Whatever happened to the good old fashiioned British weekend when we could dress up in our doc's & harringtons, get pissed, chant racist songs at the opposition, have a brawl outside the ground, punch a copper, and then go home to watch the Minstrels followed by Love Thy Neighbour, out to a nightclub, pull some skirt and wake up Sunday afternoon. No-one ever complained in them days. It kept plenty of people in jobs, fuelled the economy. It was just patriotic.

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    1. Annon @17:01

      You touch on a couple of things I've been thinking about recently.
      Firstly politics. Whatever it is that's pervaded our politics in recent years reminds me of the same attitudes and sentiments that pervaded our football terraces in the 70s and 80s. There's a tribal 'hooliganism' in politics now that makes political conversation (and concession) almost impossible. In much the same way on the terraces of yesteryear it was impossible to clap a great goal or admire the performance of a player if they didn't belong to your team. Blind loyalty, not reason, was demanded at all cost.
      It's become the same way with politics. You're with us or against us, and if you're not with us you're the enemy,conspiring and plotting the most deviant acts against the righteous and good. It's a toxic situation and very damaging.
      Secondly, I've noticed a number of interviews recently concerning the economic damage the pandemic is causing to households. I've been struck, and taken aback a bit by the number of households, home owners, both adults working in 'White collar' jobs, two kids and two cars, that identify as working class rather then middle class.
      Coincidentally the topic is raised in today's Guardian.

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/18/why-professional-middle-class-brits-insist-working-class

      There's obviously something been happening that's passed me by, but such restructuring of class identification must have implications on society as a whole. If the middle classes are now identifying as working class, then what status have those who have alway been identified as working class occupy?
      There's references above to 'core values' in probation and how they are no longer there. My instinct was to wonder why 'core values' was the possession of the employer and not owned by the employee?
      I've always considered (obviously wrongly) the civil service and much of the public sector (certainly probation) to be the domain of the middle classes. I wonder if how people now identify themselves within the class system impacts on the way they see their employment and change the way they view things like 'core values'?
      The world's a very foggy place today.

      'Getafix

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    2. Labour have brought forward today a debate attempting to stop the government cutting £20 a week from UC from April.
      The Conservative party response is to abstain from the vote claiming the debate is actually a ploy by Labour to incite hatered and provoke personal abuse from the public towards Conservative MPs.

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    3. No panic! NPS London director informed us today of the intention to roll out a staff fundraising initiative to provide food hampers to the poor...problem solved!

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    4. And she ignores the highly damning staff survey results because they are “just a pinch of salt”.

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    5. Gtx the class system is alive and well in probation. The structure is managed for those chosen to rise. The less able are matched to a permanent glass ceiling. Unless your a minority grouping based on colour then there is new promo curve but really it's a quota not a talent for the job vectir. The more able but non conformist are shoved under the glass ceiling too. The friends of management are thick able to float upwards as their past gross bullying is ignored they like and deliver bad practice poor managment and can hardly read let alone understand policies. Good staff are generally stuck in same role for years and in turn they oppress the lower grades and admin HR go onto to stuff the rest and facilitate the abuses of management. It's all collusive made a little less worse after the split but it's all coming back nasty soon post June.

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    6. You did not mention it is all women for top jobs.

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    7. Aww, let me serenade you all this evening with a lament played onthe world's tiniest violin for all the pitiful, victimised, white men being disadvantaged in a middle class profession

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    8. Get over yourself 22:18. A tedious and pointless offering.

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    9. @00:00
      No more pointless or tedious than the bleating of the entitled ones bemoaning the dearth of opportunity for entitled white men.
      They can grow up or get out.

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    10. @j22:18/00:22 - shouting people down with comments like yours is unhelpful and disrespectful. I don't think anybody was "bleating" or portraying themselves as victimised. I, personally, just find it hypocritical that probation bangs the drum of diversity and equality and ignores the elephant in the room: that the vast majority of people we work with are men, and those working with them are (in the main) women. There are complex reasons for this, and I do not personally consider that "women are promoted for the top jobs" any more than anybody else is. It may not matter that women work with men, it may not make any difference at all, it may even be beneficial to men, or it may be detrimental to their outcomes - who knows? But that's what's hypocritical: nobody ever stops to ask the question, either in research, of the service users, or even of us....but they DO ask the questions of women service users.

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  18. We really aren't poorly paid, hence why so many of us remain, our t's and C's are still good and it takes 6 yes now to get to the top of the payscale rather than 20+.

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    1. Not sure about 6 years. Is that with performance linked pay?

      Even with it, we are poorly paid.

      £29,000 - £37,000 is a poor pay scale.

      Entrance degree, 2 years on the job training, and a qualifying degree. To earn just over £2000 a month after tax, pension and student loan.

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    2. Same pay scale as most doctors.

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    3. Your information is out of date, it's only 15 months with a relevent degree, 21 with any first degree. Our pay is massively better than frontline client facing practitioners in charitable and voluntary sectors, comparable to maingrade social workers, teachers and police without the unsocial hours, personal risk or responsibilities. We don't have performance related pay, it's competency based and unless and until it's evidenced otherwise, it should be a presumption of progression annually. It's substantially better than the equivalent ts and C's for civil servants in the MOJ. We are not badly paid, if we were all that badly paid there wouldn't be so many of us who stayed.

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    4. @20:26 is right. In context, it really isn't bad pay or T&Cs.
      That is why people stay, because they can't find anything with a comparable salary that's as easy to get in, and it was the money, not the ethos that was attractive in the first place.

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    5. Can't agree with @21:47, I might be making the point we're not badly paid but we still draw new entrants for the same reason probation always did. The job may have changed and the roles different but the ethos remains despite that fact.

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    6. If by ethos you mean core values, then its been said above that they no longer exist.
      What then is attractive about probation work if not the renumeration?

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    7. I simply don't accept the premise that the core values no longer exist. The PQIPS I meet daily are as invested in the rehabilitative ideal as any probation colleagues I've met in the last 20 years and every bit as capable.

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    8. Yes easy to have those ideals when 23 years old and fresh out of uni.

      12 months later they can’t wait to get out the door.

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    9. I think that’s bs.
      For the qualifications and responsibilities required of probation officers, equivalents in the civil service earn alot more.
      Someone above compared our pay scales to junior doctors, which is way above entry level PSO pay and doesn’t come with the overtime pay or future career prospects.
      Don’t make me laugh about ethos and values, they were long replaced by high caseloads and targets. Many new probation officers leave as soon as they find a better paying option.

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    10. Stop living in the past. We no longer have values. We have responsibilities and priorities.

      “Responsibilities
      Within England and Wales, we are responsible for:

      running prison and probation services
      rehabilitation services for people in our care leaving prison
      making sure support is available to stop people reoffending
      contract managing private sector prisons and services such as:
      the prisoner escort service
      electronic tagging
      Through HM Prison Service: we manage public sector prisons and the contract for private prisons in England and Wales.

      Through the National Probation Service: we oversee probation delivery in England and Wales including through community rehabilitation companies.

      Priorities
      We will deliver the government’s vision and investment to make prisons places of safety and reform, and to continue to transform our work in the community.

      We will provide safe and supportive environments, where people work through the reasons that caused them to offend and prepare for a more positive future.”

      https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/her-majestys-prison-and-probation-service/about

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    11. "Anonymous18 January 2021 at 22:29
      I think that’s bs.
      For the qualifications and responsibilities required of probation officers, equivalents in the civil service earn alot more..."

      Show me examples of comparable client facing main grade civil service roles where there is a significantly better rate of pay and a mechanism for pay progression.

      Whilst you're at it you might stumble over an ad for PPCS case work team leader roles, 33-38k, with line management responsibilities for 5-12 caseworkers.

      I won't hold my breath

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    12. "Anonymous18 January 2021 at 22:36
      Stop living in the past. We no longer have values. We have responsibilities and priorities."

      No, the values remain in our colleagues and our practice despite the bs mission statements and slogans that come and go and which we all happily ignore. It's evident in the humanity we view and share with our clients, the structural inequalities we see, feel and facilitate our clients to overcome. I see the commitment and compassion in new joiners and PQIPS every day and those who don't have either given up or are too jaded to see it and are probably better off out.

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    13. "Don’t make me laugh about ethos and values, they were long replaced by high caseloads and targets."
      They began to be replaced when PSOs saw an opportunity to climb ladders, and put their hands up for more work and responsibilities in order to increase their salaries and prospects.
      Eastern Europeans and vegetable picking comes to mind.
      You would never be paid more, just set a bench mark for what could be paid to employ a workforce to do a job.
      If you will do it for £x amount, so will others. Its not the POs fault for the disparity in wages, how could it be, it's the overreaching, ambitious, and always happy to please that's trapped wage progression for the PSO.

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    14. “I see the commitment and compassion in new joiners and PQIPS every day”.

      And then they leave within 12 months of qualifying because of crap pay and shite conditions, realising all that Probation ethos bs they quoted in their essays doesn’t really fit with enforcement, risk management and targets.

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    15. “Eastern Europeans and vegetable picking comes to mind.”

      Wow. We have Brexit voter.

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    16. not neccessarily, @23:07

      I see two flies in the ointment:

      1. English/British employers are very happy to pay massively suppressed wages & exploit anyone prepared to do work for next to nix

      2. English/British workforce are not prepared to do the work, regardless of the rate of pay. Its been tried in Lincolnshire. Double the rate & no-one interested in staying on after a couple of days' graft.

      It just might be that @22:54 has a point, i.e. that some are motivated to undertake work at a lower rate, but that in doing so they (usually inadvertently) undermine others.

      I don't see that as neccessarily a brexit argument, more of an indictment of the capitalist's market-forces argument. Ergo it was the Trust ceo's who sold out the workforce by exploiting the eager PSOs.

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    17. I'm @20:54 and that's exactly my point @00:22.
      You make it better then I did.

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    18. I don’t buy it. But we could argue that the past exploitation of eager pso’s desperate for equality with po’s is not much different from the current exploitation of pqip trainees desperate to apply “probation values”.

      I can understand the idealism when the majority of trainees are 22-25 year olds who’ve overdosed on Fergus McNeil books, usually white females, and without much work experience. We all know that the post-qualification reality of expectation, caseload, targets and pay limitations soon hits, just as it did for the PSO’s.

      I dread to think how many are up to their eyes in rent and debt, can’t get a mortgage, and their reward for working through a pandemic for the past year was a few measly quid, a Blue light card application and a pat on the back from a probation senior manager getting bonuses for sitting on their arse at home.

      Reunification means the shit-show is about to get worse.

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    19. Personally I wouldn’t use the “Eastern Europeans and vegetable picking comes to mind” argument when many probation workers are from Eastern Europe. Even if we’re to buy that argument, well probation is happy to pay more, just look at all the agency PSO’s, POs and SPOs. What probation actually did a decade or two ago is use PSO’s to plug staffing gaps and didn’t really care about the impact or divisions it caused, just like it is now taking on 1000s of trainees without any care that the pay, conditions and training are rubbish.

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    20. all the above arguments seem to be the same, just arriving from different perspectives, i.e. that the 'system', the 'management', exploited staff with scant regard for the consequences. And the myopic pisspoor management style continues, with the same consequences, because they are only interested in managing targets; there's no vision beyond this week's data.

      The PSOs, the PQUIPs - whoever it is - are being sold lies that merely serve to create division & ill-feeling.

      Sound familiar?

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    21. Anon 10:24 Please spell it out and lets see if the thesis holds water.

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    22. I agree with 1024 all the staff are misled. PSO want the higher pay so buy into the illusion a professional function is happening in the po strata. The managers don't care they can hide from caseloads volume. Oasys is the only thing that counts and all staff do them including admin now.

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    23. @10:24 here - this also ties in with today's blog & one the comment posted (at time of writing this).

      For people with a degree of presentation skills & strong personality it is relatively easy to mobilise a majority by using populist arguments, by making promises, by seducing them with optimism, by appealing to their wants & wishes.

      When the Trusts were formed, Probation senior management had delusions of grandeur. From a position of a national conglomerate of common services they saw it as a green light to "be the best and beat the rest", which NOMS promoted hard & fast via the target-driven agenda under the ill-conceived belief that comepetition would improve services.

      All that happened was that the majority of CEOs became obsessed with pleasing 'the centre'. We saw the majority of time-intensive services to the courts withdrawn or diluted, the demise of the PSR & a race to develop data-based systems.

      The costs of staffing were being sliced, so PSO grades were utilised to replace the more expensive PO grades wherever possible - court duty, report-writing, breaches, programme delivery. The lies were that this would be a fast-track to parity with PO grades. It wasn't. And from that big lie the division has been allowed to fester.

      The last four years of Trump has been the same gameplay. Lies, deceptions, misinformation - playing people to bolster one ego with no regard for the division it creates... and the biggest divison in US history is now playing out with millions on both sides wanting to shoot & lynch & condemn the other.

      Trump - with the aid of his enablers - fomented the whole thing for his own ends, and no other reason.

      This blog has often received angry posts from PSO grade staff bemoaning the disparity of pay for the job being done - and in many cases they may well have a point. Its not the PO grades that created that split, but the ire & bile is knocked about between the two grades. They should be standing together against management.

      Senior Management, individually & collectively with their enablers, have equally created & maniupulated the divisions & the anger for their own ends. It split the unions, it split the workforce. And it was only for their own gain - never for the benefit of the profession.

      Does that help, Jim?

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    24. There's no profession now just different pay for similar titles but the work and case loads is the same. It is too late to protect a po grade if they stroked PSOs will do the same work. The only way is equal work pay claims and then they will protect the po for the rate and in turn either pay PSO the rate for the job or bend finally to demarcation. Trouble is pos don't want it they have the money but the future will unpick that.

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  19. And now you'll be haemorrhaging even more to buy your wine because of boris's beautiful brexit:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/18/a-multiple-pile-up-in-the-fog-wine-agents-fury-at-brexit-red-tape

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    1. try managing with £75 a week - No! not just not on wine, but as your total income.

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  20. £6 billion (for £20/week benefit lift) vs. bailing out the banks, which cost £1,162 billion (excluding loans and commitments to other countries and wider interventions to support the economy, e.g. BoE’s Quantitative Easing Programme)

    The NAO say that the current position (2020) is:

    "Guarantee Commitments:

    The total £1,029 billion guarantees and non-cash support has fallen significantly and stood at £13.5 billion as at 31 March 2020

    All of the sector wide support schemes have now closed and the figure now solely relates to Northern Rock and B&B undrawn loan facilities.

    Cash Outlay

    The £133 billion cash provided has been reduced to £32 billion through a variety of mechanisms

    As at 31 March 2020, there was only one significant outstanding cash outlay scheme and investment.

    Shareholdings in Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS). The shares in RBS were purchased for £46 billion.

    In August 2015 some of the ordinary shares in RBS were sold for around £2.1 billion. In March 2016, the final Dividend Access Share dividend payment of £1.2 billion was received, bringing the total receipts to £1.5 billion. As at 31 March 2020, the remaining ordinary shares held by HM Treasury had a market value of £8.5 billion. A dividend of £1.05 billion was paid to HM Treasury in September 2019."


    There's still £22 billion of loans/cash outstanding, and for the RBS shares we've been paid back about £4.6 billion, plus holding £8.5 billion worth of shares

    *** about a £13 billion return on £46 billion outlay ***

    # some might say that was a net loss of £33 billion #

    And they claim to be looking after the public purse.

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  21. In other fascist news:

    "Donald Trump is expected to issue more than 100 presidential pardons on Tuesday, during his final hours in the White House, but may not pardon himself or his immediate family, it was reported on Monday.
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    White House officials say Trump has privately debated with aides whether he should take the extraordinary step of pardoning himself. Some administration insiders have reportedly warned against it, arguing that it would make Trump look guilty.

    On Sunday, Trump met his son-in-law Jared Kushner, daughter Ivanka Trump and senior advisers to thrash out a lengthy list of pardon requests, the Washington Post reported. The meeting took up much of the day. The president was personally engaged with the details of every case, it said."

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    1. Apparently trump has managed to monetise his last acts by charging hundreds of thousands of $$$ for the chance of a pardon; its reported that lobbyists are acting on his behalf and are raking in vast sums for "the possibility of" a pardon... its not even guaranteed! Giuliani is rumoured to have been touting a pardon for $2m a pop; but since trump stopped paying him, its unlikely he'll have much joy, and almost certain he won't be offered a presidential pardon.

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