Saturday, 12 July 2025

Timpson Fails to Join the Dots

Lord Timpson OBE, Minister of State for Prisons, Probation and Reducing Reoffending delivered the 27th Bill McWilliams lecture yesterday, so what did we learn? Well, he's not been a politician for long and is clearly a nice guy, but....he's a government minister and still learning what that's about and the priority has obviously been dealing with the prison crisis, not the Probation Service one. 

He clearly cares about the Probation Service, but how much does he really know about it and understand its distinctive ethos? From the many incongruities in his address he is aware of the issues, but so far is either unwilling or unable to address them.  

  • He reminded us that the first probation officers were volunteers - wags might be tempted to say on current pay trajectory, probation staff will in effect be volunteers soon.
  • Advise Assist and Befriend got a mention, but a modern service was about Assess Protect and Change.
  • He has a somewhat touching belief in technology being the answer to Probation's woes in the vain hope that the 70/30 split in wasted time spent on futile admin can be reversed with more time to spend with clients and 'having a cup of tea' with them.
  • Although he stressed "this is a people business", he is clearly enamoured by technology and keen to spend much of the allocated £700 million on AI recording stuff. He doesn't seem to understand how that would fundamentally affect the nature of the inter-action.
  • Described probation as "the quiet engine of our Justice System".despite much evidence to suggest it's utterly broken.
  • He said "probation was community based working with the judiciary" and also "Prisons and Probation are two sides of the same coin" NO THEY'RE EFFING NOT!
  • He said "it can't all be top down, it can't be one size fits all" seemingly to forget probation is part of a Civil Service command and control structure.
  • He batted away suggestions that the Civil Service might not be the best structural model for the type of staff required to deliver probation, preferring to highlight how important leadership was instead!
  • He also referred more than once to the differences between geographical communities. London, Cambridge and Cumbria (I think) and therefore service delivery being very different. He is clearly unable to spot the incongruity here.
  • He ducked the pay question saying "we don't do it for the money" and brushed it off as "they are talking to the unions". Not rewarding the profession appropriately is not a mark of investing of course.
  • He cited trauma, addiction and mental health as drivers of crime, but made no mention of poverty.
  • He clearly rates HMI inspector Martin Jones (who regularly bangs on about 'localism') and cited him in efforts to not talk about Kim Thornden-Edwards and probation having invisible leadership and an effective voice.
  • He acknowledged the havoc caused by Chris Grayling and asserted it takes 5 years to get a damaged organisation back into good shape. That time's nearly up, but in crisis.
  • When asked about foreign nationals in prison, having acknowledged there were 10,500, he chose to highlight the plight of female FNO's and how they were 'all victims'. He was delighted that social workers were being employed in prisons to assist them, having earlier avoided the notion of a return to social work training being appropriate for probation officers.
  • In pondering in what circumstances a Probation Officer might be sacked, he clearly recognised how risk-averse the whole structure had become and opined that 'a bit more commonsense' might be needed. Touching, given that we are part of a Civil Service command and control structure.
  • He was impressed with the Manchester model of partnership working and hoped for a bigger role for the Third Sector, but is not yet willing to concede the present shotgun marriage to HM Prison Service is part of the problem.
  • We had the usual 'recruiting more staff' mantra, but he didn't seem that alarmed at rentention rates. He was concerned at sickness levels, but didn't think caseloads of 35 were a problem.
  • Despite being given the opportunity posed by a question of how the workload might be reduced, there was no mention of ditching the ridiculous 'supervision' of the under 12mths custody cohort.
  • Apparently he's meeting representatives from Wales on Monday, so hopefully the notions of a different probation model will be enthusiastically advanced!

9 comments:

  1. ...he's a government minister …. That says it all. They’d had been better off scheduling the Mike Guilfoyle essay winners who spoke passionately about probation past present and future.

    https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/winners-mike-guilfoyle-essay-prize

    https://napomagazine.org.uk/announcement-of-winner-of-mike-guilfoyle-essay-prize/

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  2. "we don't do it for the money"

    Tired of hearing that to duck the pay problems.

    We don’t do it to be paid or underpaid.

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    1. * We don’t do it to be unpaid or underpaid

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    2. Of course we do it for the money, we all have mortgages, rent, families and unfortunately for him the need to eat and sleep, I guess he keeps jumping a few years ahead in his mind when we've all been replaced by Ai and implants in the offenders rectums to give them a few jolts of electricity if they stray into an exclusion zone or come with 2 ft of alcohol.

      If they keep banging on about us being Professionally Registered Officers they need to remember Proffesionals need to be rewarded not just adequately but well!

      Muppet

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    3. Updated post-TR repost:

      Q: "What makes a good probation officer?"

      A: There are FOUR qualities:

      (1) helping identify & address the needs of management;

      (2) keeping any amount of meaningless records;

      (3) dismissing past probation practice as fanciful & pointless;

      (4) demanding more money, because more money equates to professional status.

      * In other news

      "it takes 5 years to get a damaged organisation back into good shape."

      * 2007 - Offender Management Act: "The Act shifts the responsibility for providing probation services from local probation boards to the Secretary of State. It allows for the establishment of probation trusts as public sector bodies to deliver these services, and also enables the Secretary of State to contract with private and voluntary sector providers"

      * 2008 - First Trusts were established

      Dec 2010 - Breaking The Cycle published

      * 9 January 2013 - ‘Transforming rehabilitation - a revolution in the way we manage offenders' published

      * Dec 2014 - The Secretary of State for Justice confirmed that he will be signing contracts with the new owners for the 21 Community Rehabilitation Companies (CRCs).

      * 2019 - https://news.sky.com/story/probation-services-to-be-brought-back-under-public-control-11721066

      * 2021 - "probation reunified" refers to the unification of probation services in England and Wales, merging the previously privatized community rehabilitation companies (CRCs) with the public sector National Probation Service (NPS)

      2022: "We have launched the One HMPPS programme with the aim of refocusing the agency on our core operational business making sure our Probation and Prison frontline staff have the right support to be able to deliver the very best services."

      From 29 April 2024, HMPPS will commence the re-set-in probation with a view to full implementation by 1 July 2024.


      timpers is talking bollox... It will take decades to clear the decks & start again.

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  3. Timpson is hilarious and you guys should be listening to him just for laughs in exactly the same way I listen to probation workers for the laughs. Whatever high falutin ideals you had are gone, they're a dead parrot. You are parole officers on a par with the filth and social services, nobody trusts you anymore.

    I hate what I'm typing right now and I really don't want to believe it but there's a grim truth you need to face. Those of you with good intentions don't matter anymore.
    sox

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    1. As an older very experienced lifetime of service in probation 36 years in total I have seen all the changes and it was all going wrong with type of people recruited. You show them the colour of paint but they could never appreciate red is red. Having watched and taken part in many a tactical slow down of this runaway tanker the overwhelming help from the idiocy just got worse. Even more so by the sub standard union deficient in any capacity to mount a real protection for its wage paying members. Probation is well fine sadly.

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  4. 27th Annual Bill McWilliams Lecture: 'Probation's Crucial Role in an Evolving Criminal Justice System'

    still searching for the transcript. online.. but what a disingenuous title, given the precis you offer above.

    It ought to have been titled "Criminal Justice System's crucial role in erasing Probation"

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  5. The cobbler's prisons aren't getting any better either:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/686fcfd210d550c668de3e1b/HMP_Elmley_action_plan_-_July_2025.pdf

    - Assaults on staff and use of force against prisoners had both increased

    - Illicit drugs were readily accessible and leaders were struggling to stem the ingress routes.

    - Many prisoners lived in poorly maintained cells containing broken flooring and lacking furniture.

    - Use of force had risen and was rising. Investigations into uses of force lacked thorough enquiry

    - Waiting times for many patients needing transfer to a mental health hospital exceeded the 28-day guidance.

    - Too many prisoners were released without a job and/or sustainable housing.

    And this beautifully phrased issue caught my eye:

    "Leaders’ efforts to prioritise the
    promotion of reading and library
    engagement had not been sufficiently
    effective in encouraging prisoners to
    participate actively in reading-related
    activities."

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