I feel this person's pain and exhaustion at 19:36*. I really do. I have read your blog for years and found it a haven for like minded individuals such as myself where I can find solace and sense and confirmation that I am not the only one feeling frustrated and angry. I have contributed on a couple of occasions.
I sometimes mourn the standard of writing and not only on this blog. The standard of writing and grammar in PSR's is frankly lamentable and the lack of vocabulary shows that colleagues no longer read the written word via books but on phones from which they all seem to need surgical removal. I don't know what the judiciary think, but there is, in my view, nothing quite like a Judge's Judgement prose and nothing worse than a badly written parole report either. Everything now is so proscribed.
While you say that influential people read your blog and I don't doubt that they do, but why is nothing done? The gross mismanagement of the service is evident on all fronts based on the failures we hear about daily and inspectorate reports. As for the Head of the Service, I have never met a prison governor yet who actually understood what probation officers did and this one is no different to that and has an agenda of her own.
Staff morale is at an all time low and retention figures are poor no matter what they say overall. The majority of people in my office are actively job hunting and I have dabbled, I will admit.
Having joined the service over 20 years ago, I felt it was a vocation. I had the opportunity to experience a number of secondments now no longer available to staff but I feel all my experience is currently wasted on cases I was managing 20 years ago and with more resources.
We had a meeting recently and I voiced my concern at the hemorrhaging of experienced staff and overall poor training and why were part time or semi retired staff not permitted to mentor others and to teach specialist areas of interest instead of case working? Lip service agreement was paid which was insulting, but nothing is ever done because it does not fit the one size fits all model and I watch younger poorly trained - yes I said it - colleagues battling to understand the complexities of cases they have been given when the allocating SPO clearly has no clue either or it would never have been allocated to the colleague in the first place. All I ever want from a manager is that they know more than I do and have my back and I am whistling down the wind for that.
Why hasn't someone got rid of PSS? or would it not look good on the tory election agenda being harsh on crime and all that. I am sick of suggesting it to management and was told that it was a 'big ticket item' I was asking for so what is a PDU head for but to take those concerns further up the chain? God I give up.
Don't get me started on the egregious SFO process and the blame culture. I worked out that one particularly insidious SFO reviewer and 'Uriah Heap' type character who sat in front of me with steepled fingers, a body language signifier of control if ever I saw one, bailed out when TR hit, so has never actually case worked or managed a team in the current climate. I was told I had done a good job etc., etc., and then followed up with a nit picking 10 page report!!
I find myself taking new staff in hand and trying to do what I can to assist, but management want bums on seats and caseworkers so I am stuck using my part time to case manage cases for whom I am able to expend limited time and not able to apply my skill set where it is needed. There is little or no practical training for these type of cases. New staff need to know how to manage them and the offenders for whom disguised compliance is the order of the day and professional curiosity is off the scale.
I am mentally withdrawing from it all, but am not ready to retire yet. However, I am sitting on the side lines here and while the onlooker always sees more of the ball game, I am looking at a relentless, unstoppable catastrophic train smash of a service.
On one of my non working days I am a volunteer where I am valued and staff are grateful for what I can do. I am grateful they have me. My tea making (puts the world to rights!) skills are well advanced and I assisted feeding someone this week which we both found of benefit. Staff don't have time which is why I am here. It keeps me grounded, gives back to the community where I cannot in my paid work and lets me believe that I am doing what I was put on this earth for, helping others.
* "I will not be going to work on Monday. I am tired. I go to work as I have done for 17 years, a once proud probation officer totally demoralised by the shit show probation has become and the disgusting treatment of staff. I go home tired and then watch politicians from both major parties condoning Israeli actions in Gaza. The actions of Hamas should have been seen for what it was-murder terrorism- but the actions of a so called democratic state which flouts international law has only exasperated the horrors. Am I depressed? Probably. Am I angry, fuck yes. I am probably fortunate that I don’t use drugs, including alcohol, to mask my thoughts. I hope the younger generation can create a better, more just world."
While you say that influential people read your blog and I don't doubt that they do, but why is nothing done? The gross mismanagement of the service is evident on all fronts based on the failures we hear about daily and inspectorate reports. As for the Head of the Service, I have never met a prison governor yet who actually understood what probation officers did and this one is no different to that and has an agenda of her own.
Staff morale is at an all time low and retention figures are poor no matter what they say overall. The majority of people in my office are actively job hunting and I have dabbled, I will admit.
Having joined the service over 20 years ago, I felt it was a vocation. I had the opportunity to experience a number of secondments now no longer available to staff but I feel all my experience is currently wasted on cases I was managing 20 years ago and with more resources.
We had a meeting recently and I voiced my concern at the hemorrhaging of experienced staff and overall poor training and why were part time or semi retired staff not permitted to mentor others and to teach specialist areas of interest instead of case working? Lip service agreement was paid which was insulting, but nothing is ever done because it does not fit the one size fits all model and I watch younger poorly trained - yes I said it - colleagues battling to understand the complexities of cases they have been given when the allocating SPO clearly has no clue either or it would never have been allocated to the colleague in the first place. All I ever want from a manager is that they know more than I do and have my back and I am whistling down the wind for that.
Why hasn't someone got rid of PSS? or would it not look good on the tory election agenda being harsh on crime and all that. I am sick of suggesting it to management and was told that it was a 'big ticket item' I was asking for so what is a PDU head for but to take those concerns further up the chain? God I give up.
Don't get me started on the egregious SFO process and the blame culture. I worked out that one particularly insidious SFO reviewer and 'Uriah Heap' type character who sat in front of me with steepled fingers, a body language signifier of control if ever I saw one, bailed out when TR hit, so has never actually case worked or managed a team in the current climate. I was told I had done a good job etc., etc., and then followed up with a nit picking 10 page report!!
I find myself taking new staff in hand and trying to do what I can to assist, but management want bums on seats and caseworkers so I am stuck using my part time to case manage cases for whom I am able to expend limited time and not able to apply my skill set where it is needed. There is little or no practical training for these type of cases. New staff need to know how to manage them and the offenders for whom disguised compliance is the order of the day and professional curiosity is off the scale.
I am mentally withdrawing from it all, but am not ready to retire yet. However, I am sitting on the side lines here and while the onlooker always sees more of the ball game, I am looking at a relentless, unstoppable catastrophic train smash of a service.
On one of my non working days I am a volunteer where I am valued and staff are grateful for what I can do. I am grateful they have me. My tea making (puts the world to rights!) skills are well advanced and I assisted feeding someone this week which we both found of benefit. Staff don't have time which is why I am here. It keeps me grounded, gives back to the community where I cannot in my paid work and lets me believe that I am doing what I was put on this earth for, helping others.
No doubt there will be others whose response will be, to get out of the kitchen if the heat is too much or you don't like the chef's recipe. I am a probation officer at heart and soul, but I am not sure what that is nowadays and we have lost our sense of identity. I am having to learn to find another identity as retirement looms. My manager says I can't leave, because of the level of experience and lack of it in the office, but it has to happen some time, hence the urgency to pass on my years of learning to others. I can't complain at the pay either for the hours I work.
Anon
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Jeez some of you lot sound like Domestic Abuse victims at this point.
ReplyDeleteYou know something (someone) is bad for you.
Falling for promises of it'll never happen again.
Refusing to leave an abusive relationship.
What advise would you give it it was a DV case?
We have always said this for several years. You no the relationship is bad for you but you can’t leave. We are emotionally and financially abused. You will
DeleteHave periods of where management are really nice to you, and just when you think everything is good again they pull the rug from underneath of you, piling you with more cases, sometimes I wonder if they get pleasure from seeing how much more they can break us. I’ve held out hope for 7 years now that things will change, I only stay because of my colleagues. I have been sat on my resignation notice for a month now because Probation is all I’ve ever known and loved, but they’ve finally broken me to the point of no return. My health has been impacted severely but management don’t care, my WMT has been 169% for months. I really hope one day Probation is able to find its voice again and return back to the great service it once was.
But working in a probation office is a domestic abuse relationship. Throw in a bit of Stockholm Syndrome for good measure.
DeleteGoing by Friday’s news we’re awaiting an announcement to probably learn how HMPPS are going to reshuffle the deck of cards with sleight of hand. Whatever the outcome Probation will still be a shoddy mess. Even if probation could or would be fixed our SLT ‘leaders’ which absurdly now includes prisoner governors would break it again.
It’s not just 20 year in Probation Officers like you dreaming of the exit. Everyone we see below management grades is applying to get out. An SPO that knows more and has your back, dream on. The closest you’ll find is the standard issue 0-10 year’s managers experience after being a piss-poor PO, think they know it all but doesn’t, skilled at gossiping when not sitting in an office with the door tightly shut, and has the back of the office bullies and SLT!
I left/bales out/retired two years ago and understand that things have become even worse since then.
ReplyDeleteAs an individual, I think the service I knew and worked for for 30 years is dead and won’t/can’t be resurrected.
Too many people see probation as an entry on a CV and not a vocation. Too many senior managers have swallowed the dictionary of corporatism, too many over promoted idiots refuse to accept that they are wrong.
Our union/professional body and other pretenders have nothing to say, ( except maybe ‘keep sending the money) any former colleagues are sacrificing their physical and mental health for no fair reward.
I despair and weep for the remnants of the probation service and despise the impostors who sit at the top table.
"As an individual, I think the service I knew and worked for for 30 years is dead and won’t/can’t be resurrected."
DeleteI think that's the sum of it really. They want parole officers now, not probation officers.
Just an observation, but a lot of the literature I read on probation now uses the terminology of "probation worker" as opposed to "probation officer."
'Getafix
My sentiments entirely. The moment I read this I knew it was time to go.
ReplyDelete“Probation service must ‘reset and raise’ standard of work with ethnic minority service users and staff urgently”
https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmiprobation/media/press-releases/2021/03/raceequalityinprobation/
Bullying, corporatism, racism and JFDI. Worst place I’ve ever worked. Now prison governors barking orders at us too. The Probation Service will never improve unless we’re rid of HMPPS and every so-called leader from Head of PDU to RPD.
ReplyDeleteCommiserations all - those of us who were around when the rot set in with automatic onditional release and a then surfeit of new PSOs recruited failed to campaign effectively against what we feared but even as recent as 2013 I did not think parliament would allow the situation to reach the current state. I was very wrong.
ReplyDeleteOne problem is that professional expertise has been largly disregarded by parliament, probably since 1997 leading to the stuff I read about Covid Policy being driven by Carrie Symonds(later Mrs Johnson) because we had a useles Prime Minister.
I have no solutions but improvements have to come from Parliament because it is parliament that has the ultimate responsibility for public policy and its implementation.
Automatic conditional release at the half way point is the foundation for much of HMPPS problems today IMHO.
Deletehttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/10/14/alex-chalk-low-level-offenders-help-clean-up-graffiti/
'Getafix
They need to stop promoting people to SPO management positions who don’t have at least 2 years post-qualification experience. There are new SPOs who have never worked as a PO in the pre-Covid world and have never even been to an oral hearing for one of their own cases.
ReplyDeleteInstead of more Prisons, bring Probation caseloads down to about 20 and invest in more Probation staff - it will work out much cheaper than more prison places and staff will have time to actually help people change their decision making.
ReplyDeleteI'm also over 20 years in and have always been committed to the ethos of the vocation of Probation officer. Over the last couple of years I have tried to resist the inevitable conclusion that it no longer exists, wilful denial if you like. I just don't want it to be true. But it is. I'm tired of being gaslit, tone policed, excluded for daring to comment on problems and the terrible management practices pervading the organisation. How are we supposed to go looking for jobs? I can barely get out of bed. Social justice was my thing and I was prepared to devote myself to it. It no longer exists. The system, the government, the media, the apathy all actively work against social justice. I don't know what is supposed to get me out of bed in the mornings anymore and I don't know how much longer I can do it. Not much longer I suspect. The warning letters and threatened disciplinary actions aren't enough to keep me in line anymore.
ReplyDeleteI really resonate with the comments here
ReplyDeleteOh for the two year rule……tier B1 and all A cases only managed by experienced POs (2 year post qualification) and SPOs only appointed after 2 years fully satisfactory performance as a PO.
ReplyDeleteAnyone and that's most of them these days thinks it is correct to start a sentence with capital a in and. And this sort of grammar is exactly why probation has been shafted because it has appointees that are not there for intellect. You lags will appreciate my point those if you who think a sentence starts with and are the problem.
ReplyDeleteJust heard head of prison union Mark Fairhurst on BBC news. Well done for speaking out so strongly for prison officers but also probation service which he described as being in similarly dire straits. He did a great job at flattening the usual government spin following their announcement today about moving foreign prisoners out early. We need someone like him to speak up for probation. Basically he described working in a prison as working in one of the most dangerous environments in the world where staff and prisoners face dire conditions. Staff starting at 18 will be expected to work 50 years before getting a pension at 68! This is why no one wants to.join or cannot be retained. He lambasted the current government and its destruction of public services. Similar in Probation with new recruits retirement age but how many would stay that long? Probably none. Government need to reduce pension age for jobs like these.
ReplyDeleteIt appears short term prison sentences have been scrapped in favour of community based punishments. Given the exploration capacity we all have on our caseloads, we're likely ALL to start living in interesting times....
ReplyDelete*grabs popcorn
I wish I could say it gets better the higher up the organisation you go, but it doesn’t. Some senior managers are simply psychopaths who enjoy causing people pain. The rot starts with the RPDs.
ReplyDeleteI thought The Minister of Justice is due to speak on Prisons crisis in House of Commons today Monday 16th October 2023 - it is on - after Prime Ministers Statement about Israel/Palestine which is expected to start about 3.30 pm - I doubt it will be much - if anything before 4-30 or 5 I hope plenty of MPs briefed by current probation workers turn up to challenge any nonsense about Probation
ReplyDeleteparliament TV website is here https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/34c6780e-874a-42b9-9458-348112831866
parliament business agenda is here with other links
https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/Document/82221/Html?subType=Standard
oh andrew, you're optimism is so sweet sometimes. No probation staff or napo official will have done any such thing. And there's not a single MP I can think of who'd give a shit.
DeleteEven BBC R4 got the POA to speak on napo's behalf!!
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prison-sentencing-overhaul-jails-overcrowding-probation-staff-needed-b1113745.html
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/oct/16/thousands-of-prisoners-in-england-and-wales-could-be-released-up-to-18-days-early
ReplyDeletehahahahaha - just heard Mark Fairhurst, POA, trying to argue for & describe probation work on R4pm programme
ReplyDeleteproof positive that napo are well & truly redundant; mr lawrence should be handed his p45
DeleteSo there we have it. The answer to the prison overcrowding crisis. Quite delusional as early release is all that will happen.
ReplyDeleteReleasing some “lower level offenders” on licence 18 days before their automatic release date. More work for probation with no extra staffing.
Legislating for “a presumption that custodial sentences of less than twelve months in prison will be suspended”. They forget that judges will not be dictated to by ministers.
Extending the Early Removal Scheme, so that the government has the power to remove foreign criminals up to eighteen months before they are due to be released, up from the current twelve months. That’s if they ever get the Rwanda flight off the ground.
I thought they were saving Rwanda for the 'illegal refugees', those who arrive via boat &/or any non-white/non-English-speaking terrorists (as per the vile views of cruella/anderson/jenkinson etc).
DeleteI understood that chalky wants foreign prisoners serving sentences in Eng/Wales prisons to be sent back to their country of citizenship to complete their sentence & release.
… because they’re so successful at deporting prisoners!
Delete18:07 hits the nail on the head. Where is NAPO in all of this?
ReplyDeleteWhat is Mr. Lawrence doing to earn a crust.
Is it still a crime to take money under false pretences?
David Attenborough's wonderful new wildlife series was a beauty to behold... my only criticism was the lack of inclusion of the napo mouse. This shy and terrified creature is hardly ever seen these days in the UK. It is known to run out onto the forest floor and vocalise briefly every few months or so and then immediately seek shelter and sustenance to regain it's courage. It retreats once more to a quiet safe place where it hopes it will be ignored by it's fearsome predators.
ReplyDeleteRehashing points I have made earlier regarding protecting your health and the use of sabotage in the work place, it appears to me that this could be a pivotal moment. Releasing these prisoners and increasing the numbers of people in prison is worthy if poorly realized. The impact on the probation service will be significant. But refusing work, sticking to your hours, going sick, questioning everything in writing and demanding a response will have a real impact on management’s abilities to cover this new expansion in workloads. I know some don’t like the idea of going sick but if your colleagues stand firm and refuse additional work it will leave cases unseen and unsupervised. Remember this is a massive political risk for the Tories, one or two SFOs will panic the government and although it may not bring the entire edifice crashing down it will certainly be a lot of fun watching structures crash and burn. And don’t complete the staff survey…
ReplyDeleteDon't mix your metaphors. There can be no fun derived from any SFO are you daft. Whatever the repercussions they are not worth risking the victims . Some reflective maturity required . Jim how does that get through.
DeleteAh reflective maturity what a tedious phrase. I presume you see yourself as such. Alas there was never a metaphor to mix. It was an observation of the risks the current government face as they pursue a policy to release prisoners early. All too often the blame for SFOs rests with the supervising officer. In times like this though they can become politicised. I never actually said an SFO was fun. What I said was the potential political embarrassment could be fun, especially if they fall into the current group of releases. Further, this Government has failed to protect victims, so one could argue that it’s merely an opportunity to place the blame where it actually lies. I suspect you didn’t fully reflect on the underlying argument that I have rehearsed now on a number of occasions. Essentially, you can take back a measure of control by making the work of HMPPS more difficult to manage. Some call it empowerment but I prefer the term sabotage. Which may be a lot more “fun” than you realise.
DeleteCan't we be represented by whatever union we want - if it not to do with pay they don't need to be registeted!!
ReplyDeleteIt is not quite as straightforward as joining any trade union that a person wants -
DeleteThree different Unions accept probation service employees with some conditions, as far as I know.
Here is a bit of information from the Trades Union Congress - use the link below to investigate their website further.
"So why not find out which union is the right one for you, get a group of mates together in your workplace, and join a union?
More than 5.5 million people are in a union – from nurses to checkout assistants to lorry drivers to airline pilots. Unions help workers get together, stop people being treated unfairly and get a better deal from their employers.
Isn’t it time you joined a union?
Things to note:
You have a legal right to join a union. It’s illegal for an employer to disadvantage you because you are a union member.
Some unions may have restrictions on who can join. This is usually because they represent people in specialist jobs.
Generally unions can’t help people with a problem that happened before they joined the union."
https://www.tuc.org.uk/joinunion