tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post8978447621038780178..comments2024-03-29T11:18:07.045+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Guest Blog 55 Jim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-39598250625481596992016-05-18T19:24:02.950+01:002016-05-18T19:24:02.950+01:00It's the inevitable result of creating a marke...It's the inevitable result of creating a market where none needed to exist. The principle behind the creation of the CRCs never made much sense for the private sector: the more successful you are with reducing re-offending, the less business you'll get in the future. So they had to invent a system whereby the CRCs could set themselves up as providers of service to others, hence the rate card. Wonky Links in particular are very taken with the idea of becoming a provider of a range of social interventions (though the taking out of a massive bank loan - ostensibly as back-up but who knows if it's really to keep the company afloat - suggests they're running into trouble with the stuff that they've got going at the moment). However this ran smack up against budget cuts for NOMS and the NPS, and refusing to pay the fees to CRCs (when similar services were available for free elsewhere) was an easy option. It also means that those managers who got sifted to the NPS get to play at being little business people too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-78928641795709462882016-05-18T16:44:23.764+01:002016-05-18T16:44:23.764+01:00I can see my ol' Mum up a ladder with a hose, ...I can see my ol' Mum up a ladder with a hose, bless 'er. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-63570928319431583342016-05-18T16:39:36.836+01:002016-05-18T16:39:36.836+01:0012:00 here. I lost my career through this folly (I...12:00 here. I lost my career through this folly (I was a first traunch redundancy). I now watch from the sidelines as the debacle unfolds. The flaws we predicted are there for all to see. Shutting up just allows those responsible to continue with their delusions. It's all been f***ed up beyond belief. Those still in the cess pool are too frightened to cry foul. I reserve the right to continue saying so. Repeatedly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-62315477029318610042016-05-18T05:45:41.956+01:002016-05-18T05:45:41.956+01:00Because the world is becoming increasingly insane,...Because the world is becoming increasingly insane, morally & ethically impoverished, knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing. The cjs is becoming corrupt, engineered by corrupt individuals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-54969301563411644372016-05-18T00:16:30.834+01:002016-05-18T00:16:30.834+01:0012 :00 shut same same old same old drivel along wi...12 :00 shut same same old same old drivel along with poor berk nothing original all too late you had your chance too. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-65510195326251483172016-05-18T00:14:38.609+01:002016-05-18T00:14:38.609+01:00Mr Berk you are !! What a load of heard enough alr...Mr Berk you are !! What a load of heard enough already drivel, sanctimonious sermon takes us nowhere you all had your chance shut up and take it on you asked for it weak sycophants. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-52133134938737888592016-05-17T23:31:10.847+01:002016-05-17T23:31:10.847+01:00You have stated the rate card but not answered how...You have stated the rate card but not answered how this came to be. The NPS or MOJ wanted to charge allegedly £9000 per desk per annum for CRC IOM PO / PSO to be co - located in an NPS building with NPS IOM and Police. CRC owners said, 'No, thankyou.' How did this all happen?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-51936510086840771182016-05-17T23:23:20.230+01:002016-05-17T23:23:20.230+01:00In theory we could have strategically placed fire ...In theory we could have strategically placed fire hoses on each Street for residents to douse their own fires and community volunteers to oversee the equipment and be on call. Each resident could have a brief training input on how to operate the fire hose and the system could be rigged to alert an operator who could monitor progress and have a standby service ready to assist if needs. The cost savings could be reinvested in the health service. Appealing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-419112523011362522016-05-17T23:18:59.933+01:002016-05-17T23:18:59.933+01:00Buying volunteer mentors time is possibly the most...Buying volunteer mentors time is possibly the most unethical thing on the menu.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-33526939132724150122016-05-17T23:13:53.627+01:002016-05-17T23:13:53.627+01:00If you work for the CRC you probably haven't s...If you work for the CRC you probably haven't seen the Rate Card that NPS have got to purchase CRC services. It's a bit like the shiny brochure of extras you get in a posh hotel. An hour of a Shelter worker's time starts at £50 if you do it through the CRC. It's free if you go direct to Shelter. A programme costs £2,000+ per start. Victim Work varies but is around £200 for 3 sessions. It's complete madness to expect that NPS will pay for anything that isn't mandatory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-10590571336734716062016-05-17T23:04:00.197+01:002016-05-17T23:04:00.197+01:00Why do think that is? I work for a CRC and and cou...Why do think that is? I work for a CRC and and could make a good guess but what is your theory?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-39712005877039224962016-05-17T22:57:00.802+01:002016-05-17T22:57:00.802+01:00Sums it right up. This is exactly what CRC's a...Sums it right up. This is exactly what CRC's and TTG do. It's bad enough they charge for what's available for free via the NPS, charities and community services. What's worse is that the free services are usually better than what the CRC and TTG offer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-9778833029971332142016-05-17T22:40:24.114+01:002016-05-17T22:40:24.114+01:00On the surface that sounds appealing?On the surface that sounds appealing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-87962952241945120272016-05-17T22:32:52.561+01:002016-05-17T22:32:52.561+01:00Apart from the mandatory UPW and programmes, CRC&#...Apart from the mandatory UPW and programmes, CRC's are not offering anything that NPS can't do themselves or get for free elsewhere. Why on earth would I pay for Shelter housing or debt advice when I can send the client into the drop ins in town and they can get it for free. It makes absolutely no sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-10432153145134468302016-05-17T22:12:59.908+01:002016-05-17T22:12:59.908+01:00A few years ago Mr Grayling said something like, &...A few years ago Mr Grayling said something like, 'I don't want to pay for a service I want to pay for results.' On the surface this sounds appealing. The author of this guest blog on his website / advertisement states something akin to, 'I don't care who does the job as long as they do it well.' Again this risks sounding appealing. For example, do you really care who comes out to the fire out if your house is ablaze as long as they arrive in the prescribed time and put the fire out. You might say, 'well I suppose not.' Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-83119977290553520532016-05-17T21:56:25.810+01:002016-05-17T21:56:25.810+01:00A figure of around £10,000 per breach (or at least...A figure of around £10,000 per breach (or at least per breach that results in the order being revoked and thus counting as a failure) has been mentioned as a potential cost to the CRC...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-62841898390848229192016-05-17T21:39:24.525+01:002016-05-17T21:39:24.525+01:00If the Supervisors were firstly 'officers of t...If the Supervisors were firstly 'officers of the court' as in days gone by maybe their priorities could not be so perverted as by a CRC that behaves as is suggested hereAndrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-82236515398269495052016-05-17T21:28:50.421+01:002016-05-17T21:28:50.421+01:00My CRC (South West) seems to be asking officers to...My CRC (South West) seems to be asking officers to change non acceptable absences to acceptable absences to manipulate data and avoid breach to hit targets and collect payment. We have also been informed that our CRC has borrowed monies from the bank which causes us concern since they intend to cut our staffing levels by half across the whole south west region.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-16012694841581133202016-05-17T18:38:55.369+01:002016-05-17T18:38:55.369+01:00And Mr Grayling could do a lot and did and despite...And Mr Grayling could do a lot and did and despite every Tom, Dick and Harriette saying don't, slow down, he did anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-78091629517762947882016-05-17T16:42:49.848+01:002016-05-17T16:42:49.848+01:00Typo - Adam Rickwood - NOT Rockwood - sorry.
Typo - Adam Rickwood - NOT Rockwood - sorry.<br />Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-92100943867933191152016-05-17T16:41:44.744+01:002016-05-17T16:41:44.744+01:00I suspect that for years Government has kept the Y...I suspect that for years Government has kept the YJB as a dog with no bite - I include the former coalition and Labour Governments, <br /><br />I do not remember the detail but I did have some direct contact with them first when I was so shocked to read not just the circumstances of Adam Rockwood’s death but also his placement as a disabled boy needing care, so relatively far from his mother’s home. It took years for the reports to be finalised and there was never the public outrage that would have been reasonable - say in comparison to the outrage of the recent Hitler talk form various polticos or the nonsense from Trump, which keeps the public conversation going for days at a time. Not so poor Adam Rickwood or his family. Presumably because he had attracted the label of criminal, like all these folk dying in prison of untimely deaths partly consequential on inadequate provision of trained staff and other resources, ultimately by us the taxpayers and folk who vote the MPs into office who sustain the Government that our strange system selects.<br /><br />Then when Lord McNally had done the dirty work of the Liberal Democrats and Conservative Government by introducing to parliament the offender rehabilitation Bill and along the way rejecting amendments that might have prevented the worst of the consequences of the rapid probation split and part privatisation he is appointed by Grayling as chair of the YJB. Incidentally, when questioned on the detail of the ORB or other MOJ questions by knowledgeable folk like Lords Ramsbottom and Beecham and some Conservative Baronesses whose names I cannot recall, he was incapable of giving a direct answer, frequently needing to say he would write.<br /><br />McNally was replaced at the MOJ by Clegg with Simon Hughes, presumably because Hughes did not wanted a turn on the ministerial pensioned gravy train before the Lib Dems were cast into obscurity. McNally was not just thanked for doing the dirty work of the coalition he was paid off by Grayling with another job at the YJB. If he could not answer for the MOJ about Probation without a Civil Service script was he likely to understand all the nuances involved in running the YJB especially with privateers like G4S having their hands in the government purse.<br /><br />No one can really be surprised at how it has all played out. Meanwhile G4S are next going to run some branch banking they hope, according to my reading this week.<br /><br />It is time for some proper decent controls on public services and commercial business or our country is heading into ever greater disasters!<br />Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-70489091778760233062016-05-17T15:09:34.384+01:002016-05-17T15:09:34.384+01:00“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil ...“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” <br /><br />“But what is liberty without wisdom and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint. Those who know what virtuous liberty is, cannot bear to see it disgraced by incapable heads, on account of their having high-sounding words in their mouths.” <br /><br />“Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.” <br /><br /><br />Edmund Burkenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-13971749553152656332016-05-17T12:24:48.714+01:002016-05-17T12:24:48.714+01:00This is the problem. 'Independence' is ava...This is the problem. 'Independence' is available to the highest bidder. Whilst the Government colludes with this and, equally important, whilst the media do not hold these Ministers to account, the practice of self funded advocacy will remain a corrupt force with which the money-makers will be able to justify their actions. If one remains opposed to the fundamental profit motive in CJ, the debate rages on. If we accept that 'we are where we are', the debate is ended and the dysfunction remains in place. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-30222417587980512692016-05-17T12:13:39.263+01:002016-05-17T12:13:39.263+01:00I agree: the underlying motive is fundamental and ...I agree: the underlying motive is fundamental and if making a profit is fundamental then this will be secondary to the public good. And if they cannot make a profit, they will, as we have have seen in other sectors, walk away. <br /><br />On the Guest Blog, I see in the YJB case, an independent report by Martin Narey was prefered by G4S to one prepared by a public body. Is is possibly the case that our Guest blogger is at pains to preserve his independence by not taking sides because he is open to consultancy work? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-59184103374108151062016-05-17T12:00:12.809+01:002016-05-17T12:00:12.809+01:00There is a saying I can't recall verbatim but ...There is a saying I can't recall verbatim but is along the lines of 'for evil to triumph, it does not require evil men to do evil but good men to do nothing'. The trouble with 'reasoned' debates on Probation practice under TR, they fail to acknowledge the starting point which is that the profit motive in Probation and other forms of social services undermines the very purpose of those services and compromises all forms of intervention in favour of profit or the minimisation of loss. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com