tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post7611179885738246565..comments2024-03-28T23:10:52.046+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Napo 15 Conference SpecialJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-87449509140578548692015-10-23T13:37:49.692+01:002015-10-23T13:37:49.692+01:00I do not think it is a deskilling of staff. All to...I do not think it is a deskilling of staff. All too often breach has been used as a first resort rather than last.Often staff under pressure seek quick solutions to problems- recall is now much more difficult than 20 years ago - the introduction of an SPO can slow down a fast track process to breach or recall. Given the cost to individuals of court appearances any slowing down or diversion from beach hearings is a useful way of avoiding court charges for those we prosecute. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-84659955353832602632015-10-23T13:30:53.415+01:002015-10-23T13:30:53.415+01:00There is nothing to stop police services employing...There is nothing to stop police services employing probation officers as part of multi disciplinary teams managed by themselves- this would fit in with their civilianisation agenda.This has possibly been on the cards since the introduction of the probation diploma- a stand alone probation qualification needs a specific supporting orgnanisation no more than a doctor needs a hospital- we can work anywhere now (though as a cqsw bod confirmed by a probation committee I prefer teh old ways).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-89123705538049438382015-10-18T16:46:35.755+01:002015-10-18T16:46:35.755+01:0015.54 what area you from?15.54 what area you from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-14547070772788532282015-10-18T15:58:03.845+01:002015-10-18T15:58:03.845+01:00less breaches could be spun as 'happy punters&... less breaches could be spun as 'happy punters' and CRC being 'so good that people all want to attend'. Pile of steaming nonsense!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-15603132909341915092015-10-18T15:54:26.884+01:002015-10-18T15:54:26.884+01:00my CRC has told us that the word 'probation...my CRC has told us that the word 'probation' belongs to the past and that is why moving forward we are Senior Case Managers or Case Managers. This is the second rebranding of our grade in 12mths as we've not long been told to refer to ourselves as Responsible Officers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-61578004553088647972015-10-18T12:29:23.016+01:002015-10-18T12:29:23.016+01:00The Probation Institute 'is not, per se, a ca...The Probation Institute 'is not, per se, a campaigning organisation', writes Paul Senior. It is not a campaigning organisation – full stop. It cannot be because it also represents the private companies, who are increasingly rebranding and doing away with the word 'probation'. The PI will be more heritage centre or ivory tower - not an influencer of contemporary practice. The private companies will not look over their shoulders to see if the PI approves of their delivery models. <br /><br />The PI can do nothing about the increasing fragmentation of service delivery. How long before we have hubs outsourced overseas? It can do nothing about proposed open plan offices which will compromise privacy and confidentiality and raise stress levels all round. These are changes driven by cost cutting, not professional considerations. In the absence of a licence to practice it can do nothing to regulate professional standards. It cannot be a watchdog because the various vested interests will veto any barking. <br /><br />The PI wants to keep the probation flame alive and it probably will in the same way that historical societies re-enact old battles, or Morris dancers remind us of a bygone age. Netnippernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-44980854926785534602015-10-18T10:31:52.426+01:002015-10-18T10:31:52.426+01:0023.56, the memo refers to the Police taking the Of...23.56, the memo refers to the Police taking the Offender Manager role for MAPPA eligible offenders away from Probation, e.g. Probation Officers would cease to exist and upon release, licences would be managed by the Police, who would become the supervising officers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-85846187575650459912015-10-18T10:29:00.324+01:002015-10-18T10:29:00.324+01:00It used to be 3 no shows and back in court for bre...It used to be 3 no shows and back in court for breach. Now there is a list of 20 suggestions to be worked through, ie phone the offender, text, call their family...etc then ask a manager before the breach. Now a phone call to or from an offender will suffice instead of a face to face appt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-66972255353410219042015-10-18T09:11:27.337+01:002015-10-18T09:11:27.337+01:00The comments above reflect the idiocy of what CRC ...The comments above reflect the idiocy of what CRC are currently being instructed to do. The systematic deskilling of staff where virtually every decision has to be rubber stamped by a Manager, the placing of financial considerations above the implementation of the law or risk concerns (appropriate breaches and/or recalls) - no wonder morale is rock bottom. <br />DebAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-32128593597515836432015-10-18T00:53:16.245+01:002015-10-18T00:53:16.245+01:00no one said that read it properly stupidno one said that read it properly stupidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-16560024668963090332015-10-18T00:53:01.473+01:002015-10-18T00:53:01.473+01:00This is a joke. London attended but will write to ...This is a joke. London attended but will write to the GS there concerns. They were at AGM for goodness sake. Why didn't they pipe up then? Shameful and poor tactics. Fact is Lawrence played it right and came out on topic. Having achieved this I say you all atop sniping him on here and get behind this General of the depleted NAPO army. Lawrence I salute you !!! Now let's beat Sodexo Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-36555453447720009112015-10-18T00:40:35.488+01:002015-10-18T00:40:35.488+01:00Where is the evidence base there have been more SF...Where is the evidence base there have been more SFOs post TR. There is none or the numbers are skewed as the categories for offences considered to be SFOs vhas widened. Get it right before looking daft on here with non factual pub like answersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-72694169776475874332015-10-18T00:37:28.363+01:002015-10-18T00:37:28.363+01:0023.56 your on the money. The more that can be pass...23.56 your on the money. The more that can be passed on the better. Means less accountability and smaller workloadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-62482130609729341122015-10-18T00:34:37.883+01:002015-10-18T00:34:37.883+01:00Where is the evidence base being a MAPPA case inc...Where is the evidence base being a MAPPA case increases the chance of recall. It doesn't!!! Bone heads Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-73896371533583690662015-10-17T23:56:49.670+01:002015-10-17T23:56:49.670+01:00Police already manage Category 1 MAPPA offenders a...Police already manage Category 1 MAPPA offenders and they have Probation Officers too so I'm not sure what difference it would make to probation if police did start managing Categories 2 and 3 also apart from offering extra support like they do with sex offenders. All good isn't it or am I missing something?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-76980059555061566902015-10-17T23:27:37.801+01:002015-10-17T23:27:37.801+01:00Same in our officeSame in our officeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-51721177082704394312015-10-17T23:16:52.035+01:002015-10-17T23:16:52.035+01:00SWA1 Wales have been doing drug testing on PPOs fo...SWA1 Wales have been doing drug testing on PPOs for several years. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-60569925156588388452015-10-17T22:53:23.897+01:002015-10-17T22:53:23.897+01:00Not yet you mean !Not yet you mean !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-21401513339978213032015-10-17T22:40:06.188+01:002015-10-17T22:40:06.188+01:00Gosh, that could be the end then. The CRCs manage ...Gosh, that could be the end then. The CRCs manage low and medium risk and the Police manage MAPPA cases. No more Probation Service :-( Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-199684200999973102015-10-17T21:27:09.499+01:002015-10-17T21:27:09.499+01:00I forgot to add. your need to recommend prison whe...I forgot to add. your need to recommend prison when needed but on most cases it can be avoided with the right interventions imposed for the breach. I dunno. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-19497142655885184402015-10-17T20:57:42.398+01:002015-10-17T20:57:42.398+01:00CRC does not manage MAPPA cases - least not in my ...CRC does not manage MAPPA cases - least not in my areaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-42519706049501968192015-10-17T20:54:49.466+01:002015-10-17T20:54:49.466+01:00There is much talk about how to rebuild and reunif...There is much talk about how to rebuild and reunify but WHO at conference held our leaders to account! From rumblings I've heard NO ONE. All I've heard is what a shambles it was. Why spend so much time debating the affiliation fiasco - NAPO need to get the domestic business in order first and foremost. Much was tweeted about the Sodexo estate proposals, It is not just Sodexo - have other area chairs even informed the GS or NAPO HQ what is going on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-45853095555094157362015-10-17T20:41:07.640+01:002015-10-17T20:41:07.640+01:00Why do you need to get SPO permission? Being brea...Why do you need to get SPO permission? Being breached does not result in financial penalty. Going to prison does so breach and don't recommend prison!! Anyone who does get prison following a breach then has to answer to the SPO? Simples Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-49621119914068585702015-10-17T20:31:59.901+01:002015-10-17T20:31:59.901+01:00in our CRC officers not allowed to breach without ...in our CRC officers not allowed to breach without seeking permission from SPO and we have to show him evidence our attempts to engage people. We're all upset at having to do this - none of us instigate breach for the fun of it or to score points, we do so because an Order of the Court has been breached. Apparently our office is breaching too much and it does not look good on the spreadsheet. We're fast approaching losing the will to live.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-5952435062230660422015-10-17T19:04:02.270+01:002015-10-17T19:04:02.270+01:00Maybe its the CRC's are freaking out over mapp...Maybe its the CRC's are freaking out over mappa cases and the constant recalls hitting there targets. If its moved to the Police and home office then they can disappear off the books.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com