tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post7091482832731033465..comments2024-03-28T20:12:43.003+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Probation 50's-styleJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-19271760917102195262016-12-31T12:15:07.204+00:002016-12-31T12:15:07.204+00:00Boring indeed. I think 23:40 makes an important co...Boring indeed. I think 23:40 makes an important comment in the latter half and attacking the grammar on a blog post takes us all nowhere. I would want to see what can be understood from what I understood that class and an underlying values system its what is wrong in probation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-83671181170754792722016-12-31T01:55:24.502+00:002016-12-31T01:55:24.502+00:00to 23 40. That is very kind of you to point out my...to 23 40. That is very kind of you to point out my poor grammar. I agree that all those 'ands' may not be grammatically correct, but, along with commas, they allow the comment to flow, with a pause to take in each different point. <br /><br />Sadly, this is unlike you, 23 40, who has written a 5 line sentence with no commas or full stops, so no pause to enable the reader to pick out where one point ends and the next one begins. And- (there I go again)- I initially did not find it easy to make sense of what you said.<br /><br />But,given the informality of the blog comments, are we really bothered about the lack of punctuation, bad grammar, poor spelling and typos? Or do we accept that, as part of the flavour of the Blog, as long as they are not too indecipherable? ...<br /><br />YOU DECIDE..<br /><br />Have I now bored you to death, 23 40; and everyone else??<br /><br /> <br /><br />mlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-61360065486150233802016-12-31T00:15:15.526+00:002016-12-31T00:15:15.526+00:00"If you saw my bank balance, youd eat your wo..."If you saw my bank balance, youd eat your words".<br />Even proper gobshites can have a few quid. It's always the tabloid educated that thinks 'loads of dough' makes them important though.<br />Everyone tips their hat and laughs at their jokes, but thinks what a dick head they really are. <br />And what a life of privilege your bank balance has brought you eh. Nearly midnight on a Friday night, and all you can find to do is sit at a computer and take cheap shoots at other people. If I'd have known that's what money brought, I may have tried harder. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-68660139971412169142016-12-31T00:08:44.712+00:002016-12-31T00:08:44.712+00:00It's over. I've proved my point and won. ...It's over. I've proved my point and won. Things are better now than in the 50s to 2014. Next topic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-54375197481150808812016-12-30T23:48:11.476+00:002016-12-30T23:48:11.476+00:0023:36 are you in the right blog chuck the cryptic ...23:36 are you in the right blog chuck the cryptic crosswords are on google. Glad you have some money though earn it off the backs of the maladjusted work you do to those less than able offenders did you writing down your notes so another would type them up for you zealous like as described above. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-25031525385954605752016-12-30T23:44:30.818+00:002016-12-30T23:44:30.818+00:00Boom. A man or women who talks sense. ML has been ...Boom. A man or women who talks sense. ML has been destroyed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-44993710651782238372016-12-30T23:40:50.794+00:002016-12-30T23:40:50.794+00:00ML too much AND And and and you going off about pr...ML too much AND And and and you going off about pride. I have read a lot of that old stuff typed by secretaries and it was as poorly written then as your blurb is now.<br />That black and white portrayal of why the class ridden social rot in London was something like the worst times still remain although less obvious the underlying identities are there in all the probation throw back nonsense you seem to hanker for. Not a chance will that return thank our stars. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-47679912801994612282016-12-30T23:36:22.289+00:002016-12-30T23:36:22.289+00:00Pleased youre not me... I'm glad I'm not y...Pleased youre not me... I'm glad I'm not you. If you saw my bank balance, youd eat your words. Stay of the port as you're making no sense. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-39950146658424695692016-12-30T23:35:29.978+00:002016-12-30T23:35:29.978+00:0015:59 no point in moaning about the phrase you lot...15:59 no point in moaning about the phrase you lot then open in mimic might have seen this obvious critic. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-91191680531541307912016-12-30T23:25:51.657+00:002016-12-30T23:25:51.657+00:00Uniforms? Dictate instead of engage? Tougher penal...Uniforms? Dictate instead of engage? Tougher penalties? <br />That says so much about you I'm almost tempted to ask 'what happened to you to make you so bitter'? But I won't. <br />As you said previously, reoffending rates were sky high in the 80s and 90s, but the prison population more then doubled during that period also. It still grows, so I guess you'll try and convince "you lot on here" that prison works? It's the only way forward, if you can't bring the birch back. <br />You're entitled to your opinions, public forum and all that, but I think they're nonsense, and I particularly dislike the way you express them, but I guess that goes with wanting Uniforms, and the desire to 'flog em all'. <br />I'm pleased I'm not you. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-83161264481526794452016-12-30T23:14:36.579+00:002016-12-30T23:14:36.579+00:00Thanks for taking time to comment Chris but you...Thanks for taking time to comment Chris but you've moved on to transport now...be gone with you. Ms Truss is now in charge. And. That. Is. A. Disgrace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-51196804777085473992016-12-30T22:02:14.591+00:002016-12-30T22:02:14.591+00:00I forgot to add, the only thing I'd change tod...I forgot to add, the only thing I'd change today is the dress code. 98 per cent of probation staff dress terribly. I'd make a shirt and tie compulsory. No denim!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-16580830049410143072016-12-30T21:59:06.772+00:002016-12-30T21:59:06.772+00:00Old school probation doesn't work if it did w...Old school probation doesn't work if it did we wouldn't be in the position we are in now. The thought of outreaching in cafes, smoking in offices, acting paly paly with offenders etc etc makes me so happy we have moved on. Asking how the football was and saying il see you next week does nothing for rehabilitation!!! You've all done this before!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-9383827632705617102016-12-30T21:12:41.925+00:002016-12-30T21:12:41.925+00:00If 'spending time with someone, talking', ...If 'spending time with someone, talking', doesn't change behaviour then why do we bother with counselling? Or perhaps you think that is a waste of time as well.<br />DebAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-83446890270498790192016-12-30T17:33:51.748+00:002016-12-30T17:33:51.748+00:001535 - spending time with clients involves just as...1535 - spending time with clients involves just as much time listening as talking, if not more. And clients have usually appreciated that and some have said to me that they have never before told anyone else about what they disclosed to me. And that is when they start to consider unravelling the mess they are in, to enable them to move forward. And PO's are/were there to help to address the issues. And in the 90's, records were zealously kept up to date - usually handwritten in those days, and typed up by admin. And we took a pride in our work.mlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-76883023914441544812016-12-30T15:59:07.552+00:002016-12-30T15:59:07.552+00:00"you lot think". Opening a sentence in s..."you lot think". Opening a sentence in such a fashion suggests a fair level of hostility, and not a particulary good grasp on the English language. <br />Maybe you could advance the Criminal Justice System by letting everyone know what it is that you think works? <br />I'm sure "you lot" would like to know as well. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-53437113298651472102016-12-30T15:35:26.465+00:002016-12-30T15:35:26.465+00:00You lot think that by spending time with someone t...You lot think that by spending time with someone talking changes behaviour. Reoffending rates in the 80s and 90s was through the roof despite all the "talking" you did. Probation is now run like a business and rightly so. Movements prove where people are and no more hanging around in cafes and wasting time smoking. Also proper record keeping. Past makes my blood boil. It's better now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-23159594770679782682016-12-30T14:36:38.201+00:002016-12-30T14:36:38.201+00:00https://www.questia.com/library/journal/1G1-323350...https://www.questia.com/library/journal/1G1-323350127/representations-of-british-probation-officers-in-filmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-57137709360489375232016-12-30T14:03:58.551+00:002016-12-30T14:03:58.551+00:00https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Believe_in_You_(fi...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Believe_in_You_(film) <br /><br />Love the poster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-82705704314177712072016-12-30T13:04:31.637+00:002016-12-30T13:04:31.637+00:00I have that video 'I believe in you'. I fi...I have that video 'I believe in you'. I first saw it as a DIPSW student 25 years ago, when our tutor,- a senior PO with a large heart, on a 2 year secondment to Durham,- played a large portion of it to us. Although some students smiled, and some laughed, we agreed that it illustrated the common sense 'advise, assist and befriend' message, that Probation still aimed for,, but sadly too soon to go, long before TR.<br /><br />I so wanted to see the whole film, and was delighted when a PO friend told me he had a copy, but in his clear out when he moved house, it appeared that he had accidentally cleared that out too. <br /><br />Eventually I retired, but never forgot. Then after a couple of years of talking to my family about this inspirational piece of work, all the more precious following the advent of the aliens CG and TR, they scoured the vintage films on-line and I finally got my wish, 4 Christmases ago, as CG was beginning to spread his vindictive poison. That makes this vid even more precious. <br /><br />I wonder what CG and his inept hangers-on would make of it!! I suspect that this weapon of mass destruction would say that the ridiculous naivety of the film just proves that he was right!!' -NOT MY WORDS!<br /><br />mlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-58883307280151455442016-12-30T11:06:29.618+00:002016-12-30T11:06:29.618+00:00Yes a nice reminder - see blog post from 22nd Apri...Yes a nice reminder - see blog post from 22nd April 2014<br /><br />http://probationmatters.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/i-believe-in-you_22.htmlJim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-15271637255063720422016-12-30T11:00:32.705+00:002016-12-30T11:00:32.705+00:00On occasions the film " I believe in you &quo...On occasions the film " I believe in you " starring Celiac Johnson and Cecil Parker gets an airing on television. It's a 1952 film depicting the life of Probation staff. I've always felt that the title reflects the values and attitudes of Probation staff. Steve. Sturgessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-15211560574582258752016-12-30T09:31:27.055+00:002016-12-30T09:31:27.055+00:00An interesting racial plot and it reminds me that ...An interesting racial plot and it reminds me that racism is still a human condition we need to be ever mindful of. I noticed these POs did something called lunch in their working day? And smoked in their offices and were out and about in their communities even on non - statutory matters. The modern PO I am guessing does not do lunch, is not embedded in the community and probably does not spend much time with their cases given the demands of bureaucracy. I was always shocked by how much time I spent keying information into the computer compared to meaningful time spent with my cases. Their is an ideal ground somewhere between these points I imagine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com