tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post6485271841312994083..comments2024-03-28T18:19:35.415+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Teaching Granny How to Suck EggsJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-2486161399922613052015-09-02T23:57:16.176+01:002015-09-02T23:57:16.176+01:00Thank you for "Motivational Listening". ...Thank you for "Motivational Listening". I have been searching the internet mainly in vain, for help on re-integrating a prisoner into society. I sent letter with what in my day was called a "Pep talk" about making future plans and got back "its to soon", I see now I should have painted a Rosie future, and asked how we could get her there. About the only other thing I learned from the Internet was a Danish mentor will lead a conversation so that the client discusses his day, maybe discovering problems that he can help with. Generally although it is recognised that family and friends can be a big help to a succesful re-integration the only advice given is to “be supportive”, this is probably because no one has thought about it. As far as I can tell about the only country that involves families in re-integration is Vietnam, the “Scared Straight” program had an expert on family relationships but no family involvement.<br /><br />Every country has its own problems. I spend my summers in a beautiful but remote part of Eastern Canada. The Inuit were displaced from their traditional hunting area's and resettled in “urban areas” were unemployment was already high, for administrive reasons, cheeper medical care and schooling. Thus creating a culture of well fare benefits, drink and drugs, followed by an over representation in the prisons. Some communities on a popular vote have banned alcohol and its helping. (completely off subject, but of interest to sociologist, women tranfer fron traditional Inuit culture to Western culture more readily than males, they are over reprented in the Canadian Government, hasving risen to the top in two generations).<br /><br />My points in writing was too point out something is wrong, I don't apportion blame to Society or the System they both must change.<br /><br />If you look at other countries, you can learn, there might be a better egg sucker out there.<br /><br />Family and friends are almost totally ignored by the professionals This is the best evidance I found to form this view, I have had no involvement with CJS my entire life.<br /><br />From:<br /><br />Resettlement provision for adult offenders: Accommodation and education, training and employment A joint thematic review by HM Inspectorate of Prisons, HM Inspectorate of Probation and Ofsted <br /><br />The findings of this report are striking. Most importantly, it absolutely confirms the central importance of an offender’s family and friends to their successful rehabilitation. Of course, sometimes an offender’s family may be the victims of their crime and sometimes they may be a negative influence that contributes to their offending behaviour – we found a small number of examples of this in this inspection. However, overwhelmingly, this inspection confirmed our view that an offender’s family are the most effective resettlement agency. More than half the offenders in our cohort returned home or moved in with family and friends on release, even if this was only a temporary measure. The few who had a job on release had mainly arranged this with the help of previous employers, family or friends. …........ What should happen, where possible, is resettlement work which helps the offender and his or her family to maintain or rebuild relationships; an assessment of any offer of support; and, where appropriate, Introduction 6 Resettlement provision for adult offenders involvement of the family in plans for release. We are concerned that work on family relationships that will continue to be provided, if at all, directly by the prison will not be integrated with work done by resettlement service providers. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-81897616967826133052015-09-02T21:23:28.733+01:002015-09-02T21:23:28.733+01:00Cynical is fine and maybe applicable, however, whe...Cynical is fine and maybe applicable, however, when desistance and all that is now applied to this, pretty much exactly what Probation was before the enforcement 'model' set the rot.. then it does come down to the frontline' to either grasp that and run with it,, it's all over practice guidelines both sides of the divide, or take the position that 'they don't really mean it and so not bother. Whose fault will it be then, theirs or 'ours'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-6177665446363145032015-09-02T14:05:15.854+01:002015-09-02T14:05:15.854+01:00Best wishes for the future and really sorry things...Best wishes for the future and really sorry things turned out like this. If you feel able, please stay contributing.Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-25975904096616461442015-09-02T13:45:43.392+01:002015-09-02T13:45:43.392+01:00Knock yourself out, kiddo. I'm out of here &am...Knock yourself out, kiddo. I'm out of here & leaving it in your capable hands. Don't go disappearing or blaming those that went before as & when someone gets hurt in your new utopian rehabilitation revolution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-72838515693815705292015-09-02T10:27:27.731+01:002015-09-02T10:27:27.731+01:00I'm with 22.43. And good to see someone lookin...I'm with 22.43. And good to see someone looking outward and onwards rather than joining the 'lets all join in nibbling our own tail' fest.<br />Things needed changing and it was never going to be easy to shift the entrenched controlling culture old probation had become. Right indeed for a relatively small number of offenders, but for most something much less patriarchal and equal and motivational and positive has to be the way forward in the long run. Its a very different world for everyone and we all need to move on and live in the the world as it is not how we feel 'comfortable'. Attitude is everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-30680407791467915982015-09-02T09:31:25.527+01:002015-09-02T09:31:25.527+01:002 days until I sign off my career and not a single...2 days until I sign off my career and not a single squeak from the unions since 28 Aug. "Watch this space" they cried... I did, I still am, my eyes are bleeding! In the meantime everything else seems to have frozen in time.<br /><br />The Omnishambles was just the hors d'heuve.<br /><br />The Great Calamity starts here.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-84837771951638448202015-09-02T08:28:10.797+01:002015-09-02T08:28:10.797+01:00Nothing will change for the better in the uk if we...Nothing will change for the better in the uk if we insist on valuing & prioritising profits for providers over positive outcomes for victims & perpetrators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-64004135292765617462015-09-02T07:02:06.454+01:002015-09-02T07:02:06.454+01:00Anon 22:43 I admire your attempt to see the positi...Anon 22:43 I admire your attempt to see the positive from the situation but I think you are mistaken if you think that "things are changing". There is no sense from Hindson's piece that he is acknowledging his role in the 'risk and control' culture - it has the air of a man idly leafing through an out-of-date criminology textbook looking for new buzzwords.<br /><br />We have spent the last three years being told by the Government that we weren't good enough and we need the wonderful private sector to come in and tell us how we can do our jobs properly, paying us less money (for more work) for the privilege. When this disingenuous, reinventing-the-wheel, patronising bullshit is the best they can come up with, we're entitled to feel angry.<br /><br />The first commenter had it right: "Innovation, my arse".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-85696386252498746812015-09-02T03:34:20.443+01:002015-09-02T03:34:20.443+01:00Another armchair internetter eh? Well look up ...Another armchair internetter eh? Well look up 'motivational interviewing' , we are already doing it. And using mentors. Sweden doesn't have the levels of inequality we have in UK. Also theydontlive in match boxes, crammed in problem estates. Start there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-48020567574141677772015-09-02T02:46:58.693+01:002015-09-02T02:46:58.693+01:00i only took an interest in the CJS at 70. When I w... i only took an interest in the CJS at 70. When I was a boy there were 20,000 people in Prison of whom 1,500 were homosexuals whose sexual orientation was expected to change in an all male environment. Now the prison population has quadrupled. Norway has a re-offending rate a quarter of the UK's, clearly something is wrong.<br /><br />From my Internet studies I have learned two facts.<br /><br />You cannot make someone into a better person only help them or lead them, but not push. The failures of "Scared Straight" and "Short Sharp Shock", are examples of trying to force people to reform.<br /><br />A second observation is how very few English Language Criminology Papers quote from none English language sources. No wonder we don't know what works, and our pathways are so few. A Swedish scheme for delinquents requires them to join a club, of their choosing to widen their social contacts. Also a mentor who they choose from their circle has to attend courses with them, so the family know the course message to. There is so much to learn and think about, Traditionally Inuit culture puts helping the victim recover as more important than punishing the villain, perhaps that is right. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-44424980837481897972015-09-01T22:55:28.901+01:002015-09-01T22:55:28.901+01:00Now ain't all that the truth, breadth and widt...Now ain't all that the truth, breadth and width CRC future, TR tantilising ridiculous and with only one goal - profit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-53483716994413472992015-09-01T22:48:35.509+01:002015-09-01T22:48:35.509+01:00it seems that people who start but don't finis...it seems that people who start but don't finish programmes, are more likely to go on to commit further offences than people who never start one.<br />hmmmmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-43146657165851899952015-09-01T22:43:34.272+01:002015-09-01T22:43:34.272+01:00Although people who flit from one thing to another...Although people who flit from one thing to another, usually before they get found out or anyone checks their account of what they achieved ..does anyone ever check the substance to the polished presentation with every word that gains a point carefully placed but barely understood, are best avoided.. isn't it good that that there is a move away from the 'us and them' culture that has pervaded ? isn't it good that people are starting to question the vile practice of many who trotted out that someone has this that or the other deficits etc without any consideration of the negative impact this would have, writing horrible , often inaccurate stuff in Oasys, not a care or thought for the person it concerned. isn't it good that there is finally a move away from the arrogant and totally ineffective belief of many that identifying this that or the other risk and then imposing numerous restrictions, whether or not legally justified, was job done ?. isn't it good that things are changing ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-45912761891541821122015-09-01T21:31:35.676+01:002015-09-01T21:31:35.676+01:00Ha ha I laughed out loud when I saw my copy of tha...Ha ha I laughed out loud when I saw my copy of that newsletter .. Sigh :pAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-19544195461427431962015-09-01T17:42:10.300+01:002015-09-01T17:42:10.300+01:00Of course any intervention only works if the clien...Of course any intervention only works if the client turns up; the news from our CRC is that if clients don't attend then they can't be breached for failing to comply-cos that is a fail! So Mr Hindson's posturing is all for nothing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-78293160543661600722015-09-01T14:10:08.694+01:002015-09-01T14:10:08.694+01:00Glad I'm not in that . I'd be very vocal o...Glad I'm not in that . I'd be very vocal on what I thought of him Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-52907661122737703932015-09-01T12:43:13.769+01:002015-09-01T12:43:13.769+01:00Hmmm...
"The cross-government definition of ...Hmmm...<br /><br />"The cross-government definition of domestic violence and abuse is:<br /><br />- any incident or pattern of incidents of controlling, coercive, threatening behaviour, violence or abuse... The abuse can encompass, but is not limited to:<br /><br />- psychological<br />- physical<br />- financial<br />- emotional<br /><br />Controlling behaviour<br />Controlling behaviour is a range of acts designed to make a person subordinate and/or dependent by isolating them from sources of support, exploiting their resources and capacities for personal gain, depriving them of the means needed for independence, resistance and escape and regulating their everyday behaviour.<br /><br />Coercive behaviour<br />Coercive behaviour is an act or a pattern of acts of assault, threats, humiliation and intimidation or other abuse that is used to harm, punish, or frighten"<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-66717381208123102972015-09-01T11:45:46.986+01:002015-09-01T11:45:46.986+01:00Its a pity these enlightened chameleons & shap...Its a pity these enlightened chameleons & shapeshifters didn't apply GLM principles to structuring their CRCs, preferring to use financial risk & need & TR as opposed to building on the existing strengths of an experienced, dedicated workforce.<br /><br />Perhaps Sodexo, Working Links et al could also make some effort to exercise their own "... obligations to respect other peoples’ entitlements to well being and freedom..."<br /><br />But no, same old same old 'do as I say, not as I do'; 'my way or the highway'.<br /><br />Hypocrites, liars, cheats, self-serving bullies & greedy bastards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-71876878480151684282015-09-01T11:40:01.010+01:002015-09-01T11:40:01.010+01:00I can't remember how many years ago it was (a ...I can't remember how many years ago it was (a long, long time) that I was actually involved in some forum or other where Hindson was voicing an aspiration to make the PSR a template that, with certain information entered, would be produced automatically. He wasn't joking and eoasys, left us with a situation that a legal document that could be produced with a typewriter, or even freehand, became the arcane, rolled back, won't lock, no countersigner available, last minute fucking panic fest, courtesy of someone who spent too long avoiding rehabilitating real, live offenders or talking to front line staff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-58080941933950380152015-09-01T10:42:41.999+01:002015-09-01T10:42:41.999+01:00So true. It is always sensible to 'follow the ...So true. It is always sensible to 'follow the money'. This is about selling a model, in this case the GLM which has been 'systematically developed' by his mate in New Zealand and is being promoted across the globe. These things are always 'systematically developed', just like OASys was!<br /><br />A forthcoming GLM event is charging £280 per delegate. They offer a myriad of programmes covering all offences for community and custody. However, GLM doesn't seem to have provided much desistance to indigenous New Zealanders: <br /><br />Māori made up 50 percent of the prison population; by comparison, Māori comprise about 14 percent of the general New Zealand population and it's even worse for women who made up only six percent of the total prison population but Māori women made up 58 percent of that female prisoner population. GLM doesn't have anything to say about institutional racism.<br /><br /><br /><br />Netnippernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-6272942781593112362015-09-01T09:54:35.849+01:002015-09-01T09:54:35.849+01:00The ability of naked ambition to cloud judgement. ...The ability of naked ambition to cloud judgement. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, who still thinks one model of intervention is applicable universally is, to my mind, an idiot. The truth is, the Universalists are usually selling something, even if only themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-2225132726585296952015-09-01T09:15:00.741+01:002015-09-01T09:15:00.741+01:00All this angst from the man who, whilst a power jo...All this angst from the man who, whilst a power jockey at NOMS, reduced PSRs to a tick box exercise much to the bewilderment - and ultimately utter frustration - of our local bench.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-87851818238826837622015-09-01T09:00:41.195+01:002015-09-01T09:00:41.195+01:00You should trust this man less than the distance y...You should trust this man less than the distance you could throw him Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-66920052188251448072015-09-01T07:22:10.483+01:002015-09-01T07:22:10.483+01:00I wonder how Hindson was describing needs/risks wh...I wonder how Hindson was describing needs/risks when he was promoting OASys. It seems to me that he is dismantling theoretical and pathologising frameworks that were part and parcel of the enforcement and target agenda that was encouraged under managerialism, but was never embraced by the wider workforce who always knew through their interactions with clients that whilst issues of control and boundaries were sometimes vital factors in supervising clients, the key to change was always through rehabilitation. The frontline always cared about outcomes, shaped by professional judgements rather than management diktats. <br /><br />Hindson does deserve some credit for his gymnastics. His criticisms of need as a 'negative driver' is disingenuous. Identifying needs seems a good starting place for any subsequent work. It was the over-interventionist OASys obsession with needs/risks, defensive decision-making, data collection ad nauseum and the bureaucratic funneling of clients into this or that programme on the basis of a crude scoring mechanism, that converted clients into target fodder, rather than respond to them as individuals with human rights. I would like to think that Hindson has seen the light, but I suspect he has simply found a new angle. Netnippernoreply@blogger.com