tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post6421193057648136003..comments2024-03-28T16:04:49.918+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Evidence RequiredJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-21014105289888782562016-07-06T18:26:02.124+01:002016-07-06T18:26:02.124+01:00Boom 18.08. You are on the money. Well put!Boom 18.08. You are on the money. Well put!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-91549162459898188032016-07-06T18:08:05.639+01:002016-07-06T18:08:05.639+01:00"One less person who committed a reoffence du..."One less person who committed a reoffence due to the robotic stance of persons employed in the business of helping them."<br /><br />It was your offence - your responsibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-31203692886499090972016-07-06T12:26:19.842+01:002016-07-06T12:26:19.842+01:00You're clearly a Probation Officer, or whateve...You're clearly a Probation Officer, or whatever name you have nowadays. Only a Probation Officer could make such an intuitive, in depth, rounded, reasoned and down right inspirational statement regarding my own personal experience of the service as was delivered to me.<br /><br />You must be right at the top of the tree along with the rest of the Probation Monkeys, eating your own shit.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-73624419716590851802016-07-06T08:50:26.053+01:002016-07-06T08:50:26.053+01:00Napo sent a circular out on 3 June giving advice t...Napo sent a circular out on 3 June giving advice to members about 1:1. Didn't you get it ? If not ask you local rep for it....if your a member that is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-61897929502577418302016-07-05T22:53:12.115+01:002016-07-05T22:53:12.115+01:00Evidence Required:
WMD are just 45 mins away
TR w...Evidence Required:<br /><br />WMD are just 45 mins away<br />TR will massively improve rehabilitation<br />I never want to be PM<br />Vote Leave is worth £350M a week to the NHS<br />Boris, I love you<br />Tony is worth every penny of the £MultiMillions he's accrued<br />The moon is made of Cheese<br />God told me to do it<br />En - ger - land, En-ger-land, Eng-gurrr-land!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-16345973001299240552016-07-05T22:00:31.483+01:002016-07-05T22:00:31.483+01:00It's easy to abuse people when you are making ...It's easy to abuse people when you are making money out of it.<br /><br />I'm suffering the ill effects of psychological abuse perpetrated by Probation employees. So as far as I'm concerned you deserve E3. <br /><br />Think of it as a blessing, redundancy money or no redundancy money. Think of it as less people that you're possible of bumping into at some future date who you half recall the face of, but you don't recall the name of, one less person who let you into their world but whom you didn't let into yours, one less person who opened up to you and offered the hand of friendship, but that you rejected. One less person who committed a reoffence due to the robotic stance of persons employed in the business of helping them.<br /><br />If you believe your Bosses are driving the service into the ground then what the fuck are you doing taking their orders and placing them on others? <br /><br />Did you ever believe that your interventions were some world class award winning spawn of a genius then I'm sorry but you are nothing short of deluded.<br /><br />In any career of a piss-artist formerly known as a Probation Officer, the amount of people that would have a positive thing to say about you compared to the amount who have something less than complimentary to say would speak for itself.<br /><br />But if you are being paid then what concern is it of yours the effect that you have on those you come into contact with?<br /><br />It's not as if you're trying to get anyone to think of the negative effects that their behaviour has on others now is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-15324969241479993022016-07-05T21:34:02.765+01:002016-07-05T21:34:02.765+01:00Does anyone know more about these 1:1 interviews a...Does anyone know more about these 1:1 interviews and where can we get advice about whether we have to comply. NAPO are keeping very quietAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-20377070985661095132016-07-05T21:13:50.677+01:002016-07-05T21:13:50.677+01:00Yep, in our area band 4 to be cut by 50% and band ...Yep, in our area band 4 to be cut by 50% and band 3 just about the same. Looks like phone interviews on the way for the majority of clients. <br />Re 3e - Any Nps people been given any indication of how many posts will be available in each section - ie three x band 4 and five x band 3 etc. Seems to me that this information is needed before making an informed decision. If it goes to competitive interview and, for instance, all OM posts are filled, then you face being shipped elsewhere. This could cause issues if care responsibility or travel issues. <br />Lastly, and I apologise if this seems insensitive given colleagues up and down the country are losing jobs, but the E3 guidance to managers says that whilst ver is not being offered, even if it were,then it would be a civil service scheme. Hence only backdated to the split in June 2014. How is it they are cherry picking? Local gov pension scheme, trusts policy on maternity but we are civil servants when it comes to losing all your years service if ver and also for being moved God knows where, in what ever job, if you are viewed as surplus. Give us the option of ver. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-19823087886233556162016-07-05T19:22:56.487+01:002016-07-05T19:22:56.487+01:00Interesting listening this morning to Working Link...Interesting listening this morning to Working Links phone discussion by Senior Management. Many changes to happen soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-19539947811136081522016-07-05T18:07:50.107+01:002016-07-05T18:07:50.107+01:0017.53 you have far too much time on your hands!17.53 you have far too much time on your hands!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-43138210007003994492016-07-05T18:01:11.831+01:002016-07-05T18:01:11.831+01:00The operating models are far far from being LEAN The operating models are far far from being LEAN Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-69394433443206975262016-07-05T17:57:45.985+01:002016-07-05T17:57:45.985+01:00'perform' and 'patients' aside I w...'perform' and 'patients' aside I would not write in detail on here about the specifics of the work because it would identify the people we are working with and betray their trust (or should I say I wouldn't have when I was working as a PO which I am not now) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-42628379938449390902016-07-05T17:53:43.017+01:002016-07-05T17:53:43.017+01:00Anon 6.36 - you must do better if you want anyone ...Anon 6.36 - you must do better if you want anyone to take you seriously.... What's, or what is going on? You use this character when asking a question. (This) - when starting a new sentence, you need to use a capital letter..this guy (what? a real person?) has offended (haven't we all?) so needs rehabilitation ( oh dear, much of the population needs rehabilitation then?)regardless of the 40 mile round trip. (Are you not making a few too many assumptions here? (That said person has the means, time, money,and physical capacity etc to get there?). Getting silly now - who is? what is silly?. Good to now we have such diligent, caring, compassionate colleagues out there; after all we do not inflict punishment, that is the Courts job and we do not delight in the misery of others. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-90979629052753602082016-07-05T10:08:23.344+01:002016-07-05T10:08:23.344+01:00Travel has always been a problem in areas like Dev...Travel has always been a problem in areas like Devon and Cornwall, Northumbria etc. Nevertheless, it is clearly a fact that some areas have closed offices and people who used to go to local offices to receive a service, they now have to travel much greater distances. Also, timings of groups are compromised so the inconvenience to individuals is increased, thereby putting in barriers to successful completion. Long journeys ARE a problem but not just because of the inconvenience to individuals who live a long way from offices. Long journeys at the end of a working day with not time to eat, no refreshments on arrival. finishing late and then having a long journey home etc. means offenders START the groups tired and will inevitably struggle to gain anything from them. Obviously, that no longer matters as the completion and resultant funding is the only objective that is now considered. If they actually benefit from them, well, that seems to be a fortunate by product rather than an intended consequence of attendance.<br /><br />In short, you can justify any form of bad practice if your attitude is 'they committed an offence and this is the consequence/if you can't do the time....'. The purpose used to be to facilitate rehabilitation not to punish, restrict and just be mean to them because they deserve it.<br /><br />As an ex-SPO (I took redundancy), I am simply appalled at the continued efforts of some to justify these cadaverous remains of service delivery. It's crap because it is underfunded and managed entirely by people who do not understand the work and who certainly don't value it. There will always be pockets of good practice and quiet little victories but, in terms of a strategic approach to working with offenders, what is left after TR is almost entirely a universal disgrace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-74851717861590712622016-07-05T09:50:37.600+01:002016-07-05T09:50:37.600+01:009 16- just maybe it's because decent POs/PSOs ...9 16- just maybe it's because decent POs/PSOs don't brag about the good work they have done, they just get on with it as the norm. The comments on here are largely about how, under the current drastic cheapskate changes, they are unable to work to their own high standards. This blog provides that vital offloading facility which can be shared with other despairing colleagues. Not many other ears are listening.mlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-22441410605017070642016-07-05T09:16:54.231+01:002016-07-05T09:16:54.231+01:00I'm not attempting a wind up. I'm talking ...I'm not attempting a wind up. I'm talking from experience. It would be interesting would it not, to gauge the reaction and true feeling of offenders when what they say could not be used against them? Of course this blog has scarcely ever gone into detail about the highly skilled work you practitioners perform on your patients. I wonder why? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-78469388501164258632016-07-05T07:23:06.519+01:002016-07-05T07:23:06.519+01:00Spot the trolls. Can't even be bothered making...Spot the trolls. Can't even be bothered making a decent wind-up. 2/10.Must do better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-194268701022264462016-07-05T07:05:15.081+01:002016-07-05T07:05:15.081+01:00On reflection 40 miles is far but the issue of tra...On reflection 40 miles is far but the issue of travel has always been an issue pre TR in some areas. This issue is not a result of TRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-25992480365195512462016-07-05T06:54:31.852+01:002016-07-05T06:54:31.852+01:00I attended Probation before TR. Seemed very uncoor...I attended Probation before TR. Seemed very uncoordinated and staffed by unprofessional persons then. Appears little has changed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-78441498057007783392016-07-05T06:35:33.643+01:002016-07-05T06:35:33.643+01:00Whats going on.this guy has offended so needs reha...Whats going on.this guy has offended so needs rehabilitation regardless of the 40 mile round trip. Getting silly nowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-45602907527628770692016-07-04T22:42:50.114+01:002016-07-04T22:42:50.114+01:00as if we're not under enough pressure. I'...as if we're not under enough pressure. I've seen this on our Intranet - its basically a bean-counting exercise and giving someone in head office a justification for their scale 5 post. NAPO should be all over this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-57976005014837223602016-07-04T22:39:04.626+01:002016-07-04T22:39:04.626+01:00enrolled another guy on to a programme - waiting l...enrolled another guy on to a programme - waiting list so long I've no alternative but to take the Order back to court to extend so that this can happen. 40+ mile weekly round trip for him to attend the Programme for 18 weeks and it's ridiculous. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-14955788794677678892016-07-04T21:30:04.233+01:002016-07-04T21:30:04.233+01:00Ttg is laughable; interventions are diminished, op...Ttg is laughable; interventions are diminished, operating fewer accredited programmes less frequently with less experienced tutors and are more difficult to get to; the under 12 month cohort is an exercise in seeing how fast the revolving door can revolve before it comes off altogether;lean operating models = operating substandard, deprofessionalised or unsafe practices on a shoestring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-45985567631983730132016-07-04T19:57:37.756+01:002016-07-04T19:57:37.756+01:00Care to expand beyond just giving list?Care to expand beyond just giving list?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-91788378366029247272016-07-04T19:45:43.141+01:002016-07-04T19:45:43.141+01:00Lord help my PO then if she gets audited as when I...Lord help my PO then if she gets audited as when I do my yearly data subject access request for my file the number of mistakes in it are always astoundingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com