tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post5653638489391316450..comments2024-03-28T07:32:23.397+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: The Tide Has TurnedJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-25988853769744800512014-10-12T20:42:32.804+01:002014-10-12T20:42:32.804+01:00Yes you are right Andrew,Jeanne and Howard have re...Yes you are right Andrew,Jeanne and Howard have real integrity and commitment!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-68064148888693022292014-10-12T11:30:30.179+01:002014-10-12T11:30:30.179+01:00I do not know Yvonne but Jan and Howard are solid ...I do not know Yvonne but Jan and Howard are solid Napo folk who understand the travails that got us to be a trades union proper back in the 1980s, I am almost certain - I would trust them - phenomenal dedication going back decades.Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-20650013632945857352014-10-12T10:49:51.918+01:002014-10-12T10:49:51.918+01:00I understand its particular experiences that are n...I understand its particular experiences that are needed..keep faithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-8562448979814972712014-10-12T10:36:47.284+01:002014-10-12T10:36:47.284+01:00Thank you anon 23.35 for this post. And for all th...Thank you anon 23.35 for this post. And for all the efforts at AGM- will have been a lot of tension too I guess. Have spoken to colleagues who went to AGM now- things should be clearer Monday Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-45585266564989329942014-10-12T09:49:11.055+01:002014-10-12T09:49:11.055+01:00Yes we most certainly will be holding them to acco...Yes we most certainly will be holding them to account if what was promised was not delivered. Even if we have to trudge up to London to do it Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-18723980092011319792014-10-12T09:40:36.806+01:002014-10-12T09:40:36.806+01:00As one of the members who was concerned enough at ...As one of the members who was concerned enough at AGM to approach Steering Committee with an EM, I was given hope by the supportive response from Howard Davies and Jan Peall and even more so from Yvonne, current co Chair. As Jim has already said, I, along with many colleagues will be watching events of the coming weeks closely to see that our GS delivers what has been promised. Having arrived in Scarborough feeling the sell off of CRC's was a done deall I left yesterday with hope! HCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-89686292360574834952014-10-12T08:57:23.277+01:002014-10-12T08:57:23.277+01:00Kevin fuck off!! I have been shafted into your cra...Kevin fuck off!! I have been shafted into your crappy CRC and now you are asking me to prop up NPS. Piss off!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-40447800024664163642014-10-12T08:40:00.289+01:002014-10-12T08:40:00.289+01:00Having attended AGM at Llandudno last year and rem...Having attended AGM at Llandudno last year and remembering the euphoria and renewed motivation amongst members - Napo, hope we won't feel the same disappointment this time next year! Couldn't be at AGM this year - supporting a family member who is an NPS worker on sickness absence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-31473869859358750192014-10-12T07:44:23.969+01:002014-10-12T07:44:23.969+01:00Good examples always welcomed on here, with links ...Good examples always welcomed on here, with links please. Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-86234096663762440052014-10-12T07:42:28.712+01:002014-10-12T07:42:28.712+01:00I understand the pessimism completely, but trust m...I understand the pessimism completely, but trust me, something fundamentally different happened in Scarborough. I'm convinced the original plan has been overturned by a combination of changes in the make up of the top table, some highly effective member action, together with appreciation of growing dissatisfaction in the ranks. <br /><br />It's the eleventh hour for sure, but I now believe there will be a JR because at last there is a will at the top to do it. Wait for the carefully-crafted email on Monday, but rest-assured there are well-informed people who will be making sure that what's been promised will be delivered. Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-88275734465765246272014-10-12T07:36:16.652+01:002014-10-12T07:36:16.652+01:00Thanks so much for Kevin's cheery and deluded ...Thanks so much for Kevin's cheery and deluded blog! Nearly as hilarious as those being excreted in Manchester!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-67409853889390927402014-10-11T23:52:24.754+01:002014-10-11T23:52:24.754+01:00I think the fact that they are only now speaking o...I think the fact that they are only now speaking of the need of individuals experiences (wouldn't you have them already if you were focused on fighting TR), speaks realms.<br />I too sense disappointment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-90937608955195814562014-10-11T23:35:02.910+01:002014-10-11T23:35:02.910+01:00The fight is with Grayling not with each other. T...The fight is with Grayling not with each other. This was a good conference, held in very difficult times #understatement. The closed session, the drafting of potential EMs, the Gen Secs announcement: democracy in action, and a decent nay noble organisation doing its utmost. Unity in NAPO I say and also a massive big up for Jeanne and Howard of the Steering Committee, getting democratic processes working. I have been trying to make sense of this last few days for hours and lots of miles, and am coming to the conclusion that right now I am proud of probation, proud of NAPO, and wish I had brought my bathers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-38401522446135966012014-10-11T23:34:37.904+01:002014-10-11T23:34:37.904+01:00Smoke and mirrors or cloak and dagger. Why?. I'...Smoke and mirrors or cloak and dagger. Why?. I've a feeling Napo staff are clearing their desks - it's over kid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-35613589218129298242014-10-11T23:22:19.907+01:002014-10-11T23:22:19.907+01:00I am a NAPO member, and I would put another £50 qu...I am a NAPO member, and I would put another £50 quid, a whatever £100 in the pot if they needed it, for JR . Anon, but good for the money Ian, if you need it, just post here :)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-34564816388001605212014-10-11T23:14:34.929+01:002014-10-11T23:14:34.929+01:00As said before 'smoke and mirrors', get re...As said before 'smoke and mirrors', get ready for disappointment..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-5503488573340143112014-10-11T23:12:27.254+01:002014-10-11T23:12:27.254+01:00Its not usual to announce your grand plan two days...Its not usual to announce your grand plan two days after your main annual conference is it?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-19552686009661547712014-10-11T22:57:13.819+01:002014-10-11T22:57:13.819+01:00Quite frankly I am expecting a massive let down wh...Quite frankly I am expecting a massive let down when we receive the email on Monday.......all this about not letting the govt know what we are doing/putting things off until later/not telling members not at AGM what is the true position...........stuff & nonsense.....more delaying tactics until we get the truth when the powers that be decide the time is right......I am getting closer & closer to deciding NAPO is not an organisation I still want to be part of........Bobbyjoe<br />PS it all might change on Monday of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-26955169370726881442014-10-11T22:46:36.993+01:002014-10-11T22:46:36.993+01:00The only Utopian system is delusion. Grayling'...The only Utopian system is delusion. Grayling's plans were Walter Mitty material. More, much more for less. It is as mythical as the Snark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-32711157338925944562014-10-11T22:42:40.143+01:002014-10-11T22:42:40.143+01:00Yeah. But it's not all about you, is it? Appea...Yeah. But it's not all about you, is it? Appeasing our frustration may be attractive in the short term but it doesn't make it the right thing to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-80428398812783659172014-10-11T22:35:36.689+01:002014-10-11T22:35:36.689+01:00I am cautiously optimistic by the comments above a...I am cautiously optimistic by the comments above although the proof of the pudding etc etc. I am not a NAPO member but am prepared to provide monthly support to a fighting fund as long as there is a legal opposition to TR. We have nothing to lose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-20612501435648720482014-10-11T22:35:18.871+01:002014-10-11T22:35:18.871+01:00anon - 212.25 -re clcrc blog of a happy clappy wo...anon - 212.25 -re clcrc blog of a happy clappy world - now I KNOW that it is propaganda - Kevin is the Chief Exec - Kevin Robinson - he was Div Manager at Northumbria for a relatively short period - a very ambitious man who did not take no for an answer. Not a man to be crossed. That report sums up the way senior managers are having to toe the party line, right up to the top. He is not going to be talking about stressed staff and lost offenders. But on the other hand, he may have found a Utopian system of working, and good for him, but I would like to hear from staff there, if they are brave enough. If I am way off the mark, then I apologise and due respect to him for achieving what no other area seems to have done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-12185639802403743172014-10-11T22:06:04.842+01:002014-10-11T22:06:04.842+01:00Seriously, lets go for it or not. I can't stan...Seriously, lets go for it or not. I can't stand all this bollocks? If I'm faced with this shite at work I address the issues with the individual concerned, stop pissing around the issue. Blah blah blah ( "why don't the rank and file engage"). God's sake, stop twatting around, you do my heed in!! A Geordie PO<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-91236232986571505432014-10-11T20:38:44.254+01:002014-10-11T20:38:44.254+01:00Feel very reassured that such efforts were made on...Feel very reassured that such efforts were made on our behalf to present motions for members to vote on JR this AGM and move us into action. Hopefully too Mondays email will help further clarify what going on. I too feel encouraged by the new Vice Chairs especially Chas Berry. Thanks so much for all your efforts too Jim- hope you will take Sunday off and relax!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-66950027040201521492014-10-11T20:27:01.027+01:002014-10-11T20:27:01.027+01:00is this a joke a or devious piece of propaganda?? ...is this a joke a or devious piece of propaganda?? (anon 20.10). and thank you Jim, for giving us some hope. and good on yer Johanna, I knew she was working on a bid to persuade NAPO to go ahead with JR but it sounds as if it's been somewhat dramatic!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com