tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post5238684828978894036..comments2024-03-29T11:18:07.045+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Following OrdersJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-54775396870457152732013-07-25T06:56:27.561+01:002013-07-25T06:56:27.561+01:00The deafening silence and near utter compliance by...The deafening silence and near utter compliance by the Chief's is an extremely depressing aspect of this whole sorry saga. I can't think of another professional group who have been so spectacularly supine. Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-63943290811755837912013-07-24T20:33:07.396+01:002013-07-24T20:33:07.396+01:00Offenders or most offenders anyway are very unlike...Offenders or most offenders anyway are very unlikely to become a shareholder in any company.<br />However, in principle that rather strange possibillity does exsist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-72601150885451644392013-07-24T20:26:40.592+01:002013-07-24T20:26:40.592+01:00The argument that Chiefs should have done (and do)...The argument that Chiefs should have done (and do) more remains a significant one and the question should be asked why have they not acted to defend the service they profess to support whole heartedly.....is the answer that they see this as a way of exerting total economic control over the remnants of what remains and secretly hoping that when the dust settles they'll be the last ones standing....NAPO should consider challenging the Chiefs to take a more active role in the resistance or equally be transparent in their support of TR.....the grade currently under the most pressure seems to be SPOs given the information that they're receiving about job hunting.....to quote Chris Spivey.....just saying Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16544668621607009504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-7262652058905326262013-07-24T18:06:01.389+01:002013-07-24T18:06:01.389+01:00"some Trusts have only just migrated to nDeli..."some Trusts have only just migrated to nDelius and the staff are, how shall we put this, finding it's shite"<br /><br />I really could not agree more.<br /><br />I cannot shake the feeling that our Chief's could have done a lot more to stop this. We often challenge offenders who give excuses such as 'everyone was doing it' and 'if I did not [comply] then I would have felt stupid' but yet our Chiefs appear to have blindly went along with things, knowing fine well the consequences of their actions.<br /><br />It only took a few of them to band together and speak out, highlighting the obvious dangers of this proposal, the very dangers that the Government tried very hard to hide!!<br /><br />Rosa Parks would be spinning in her grave!Obi Wannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-22745025594536238132013-07-24T17:07:48.193+01:002013-07-24T17:07:48.193+01:00Unrelated, but a curious thought just popped to mi...Unrelated, but a curious thought just popped to mind.<br />If shares are available for purchase in the companies bidding for contracts, then presumably theres notting stopping an offender becoming a share holder if they so wish to do so?<br />That would be a very odd situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-84876359526770871852013-07-24T16:13:38.864+01:002013-07-24T16:13:38.864+01:00Thanks for mentioning Turning Point - I had no ide...Thanks for mentioning Turning Point - I had no idea this is what they've been up to - a very bad omen of what is to come, but sadly not that surprising eh?<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />JimJim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-21726433427011260342013-07-24T15:50:52.753+01:002013-07-24T15:50:52.753+01:00As Grayling was addressing his remarks to a confer...As Grayling was addressing his remarks to a conference composed of the voluntary sector, it is no surprise that he wanted to reassure and assuage fears that the decommissioning of probation was not going to be a repeat of the work programme for charities, many of whom folded as they could not provide a viable service. <br /><br />But let's assume a thousand flowers bloom under TR, bringing a range of creative solutions to the challenges presented by crime and reoffending. I don't think for one moment it will happen. As happens with all privatisations there will inexorably be a concentration of big providers who will eventually monopolise. <br /><br />And even if flowers bloomed, what difference would it make if you were employed by G4S or a third sector provider, such as a social enterprise with charitable status like Turning Point? On first impressions you may prefer the latter as it would not be tainted with rapacious free enterprise, with the privateers. But from a worker's perspective it would probably make no difference to your wages or terms and conditions. I say this having seen what is taking place at Turning Point who tore up staff contracts:<br /><br />“Three hundred staff at the social care charity Turning Point have claimed unfair dismissal as part of a long-running dispute over new terms and conditions.<br />The charity began moves last November to sack its entire 2,600-strong workforce and re-employ them on new contracts in a bid to reduce costs. The trade union Unite said that staff were dismissed and then re-employed in March on lower salaries and poorer terms and conditions. It said some had lost up to £6,000 a year from their wages.<br />Unite has now made a claim of unfair dismissal to an employment tribunal on behalf of 300 staff.” (http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/Management/article/1191850/Unite-issues-unfair-dismissal-claim-against-Turning-Point-behalf-300-staff/)<br /><br />And why did Turning Point act drastically? So they can compete with the competitive bidding process in the charity sector! <br /><br />So I suggest, from a decent wage perspective, it will be immaterial who provides future probation services – whether public, private or third sector. They will all be 'cheap and cheerful' services in any event. It is no wonder staff are jumping from a sinking ship. It is surely the intelligent thing to do. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-17354430263606745802013-07-24T14:41:43.242+01:002013-07-24T14:41:43.242+01:00Its not going to be a work programme mark 2 is an ...Its not going to be a work programme mark 2 is an open admission of that programmes failure. Its hardly an inspiring sales pitch announcing that yous last project (one very very similar to this one) was a crock of shite.<br />Making sure the little guys aren't squeezed out by the bigger bidders? How far is this going to be spread?<br />Wonder if anyones considered product continuity? Nightmare!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com