tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post5086286466601116042..comments2024-03-29T06:40:58.606+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Napo at Work in the South West 7Jim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-59066325433356360612016-10-03T21:56:58.351+01:002016-10-03T21:56:58.351+01:00None of us had confidence in Napo through the spli...None of us had confidence in Napo through the split and who would hang on to take any further chances take the money and run. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-88556899087712359552016-10-02T20:47:32.546+01:002016-10-02T20:47:32.546+01:00Watching a carcrash There's a really horrid te...Watching a carcrash There's a really horrid tension now, should we support staff to carry on and get the best terms, or demonstrate that this is total pants? My view is that we should let the CRCs crash and burn, but if I was in a CRC I would hate meanonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15359540301847252660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-57943281952631612172016-10-02T13:13:41.841+01:002016-10-02T13:13:41.841+01:00Not all CRCs have that have made people redundant ...Not all CRCs have that have made people redundant have offered ERAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-43972607680906783052016-10-02T08:26:50.315+01:002016-10-02T08:26:50.315+01:00Well done ML. Yes JC4PM. Let's get this vile ...Well done ML. Yes JC4PM. Let's get this vile evil Tory government out. I am prepared to take to the streets and do my bit. Our service is smashed to pieces - agreed atomised. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-36126483983789789822016-10-01T23:25:06.731+01:002016-10-01T23:25:06.731+01:00#JC4PM :)#JC4PM :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-2383083318581583242016-10-01T20:02:29.677+01:002016-10-01T20:02:29.677+01:00off topic but worth it. Today was a celebration of... off topic but worth it. Today was a celebration of the 80th anniversary of the Jarrow Crusade(when 200 unemployed men marched to London to hand in a petition for work) Being a proud Geordie Jarra lass, I was there at the sports stadium among the crowd to greet the guest - Jeremy Corbyn, who talked fervently from the stage to the crowd for almost an hour, to much huge applause. I later spoke briefly to him about putting Probation on Labour's agenda. I did not have to tell him about its devastation, he knew all about it, and spoke to me fervently about the impossibility now of engaging with offenders in any personal and meaningful way, and said there was only one word to effectively describe what the govt has done to Probation - atomisation!- and said this will definitely be addressed in his party.mlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-56633992406745120962016-10-01T13:30:32.384+01:002016-10-01T13:30:32.384+01:0011.36 that comment is so infuriating-how do you kn...11.36 that comment is so infuriating-how do you know that all those affected have good health, supportive friends and face no financial demands from family?? Facing loss of yr normal income is not a jokeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-28495629079905001722016-10-01T11:36:29.797+01:002016-10-01T11:36:29.797+01:00Look it is what it is so just deal with it. You b ...Look it is what it is so just deal with it. You b fine. You got your health family friends it's just money at end if the day Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-51037889038443141902016-10-01T10:55:35.202+01:002016-10-01T10:55:35.202+01:009:02 here. I don't think your comments are jus...9:02 here. I don't think your comments are justified D. In order to avoid paying EVR Sodexo offered severance and it was all legal. Blaming northern reps is out of order tbh! If staff wanted to take severance (even tho their union reps advised them against it ) and waive their rights to take legal action we couldn't stop them. You may find that there will be a stampede by staff in your area to leave. Will they all blame you? Good luck with your battle. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-10049380036631636992016-10-01T10:53:59.030+01:002016-10-01T10:53:59.030+01:00All three unions recommended industrial action in ...All three unions recommended industrial action in the Sodexo case:<br /><br />http://probationmatters.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/sodexo-offer-consultation.html<br /><br />Then the waters were muddied by this from a local Rep:<br /><br />http://probationmatters.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/an-open-letter.html<br /><br />Reading the latest from the South West was not enlightening or clarifying. Surely a briefing paper from Napo setting out what happened with Sodexo and the options regarding Working Links would be helpful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-63008868111068076332016-10-01T10:26:19.649+01:002016-10-01T10:26:19.649+01:00What this suggests is that Working links must be s...What this suggests is that Working links must be so broke they cannot provide the full requirements of their responsibilities to pay the staff. If they are this broke it should be time to hand the keys back and let us celebrate good riddance to a TR broker. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-5802951735188068592016-10-01T09:53:01.242+01:002016-10-01T09:53:01.242+01:00The Purple Futures voluntary offer was full equiva...The Purple Futures voluntary offer was full equivalence to public sector terms including pensions.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-69566758181112393032016-10-01T09:27:43.772+01:002016-10-01T09:27:43.772+01:00I think the poster 9:02 is naive and a bit more th...I think the poster 9:02 is naive and a bit more than foolish. The issues are related in the sense of staff reductions but the terms and conditions of their entitlements are bneing abused. Also the abvuse in some parts breaches national contractual obligations on the employer. They cannot arbitrarily walk from an obligation to staff protections without compensation or proper and reasonable voluntary arrangements. The object lesson here is that the Northern reps appeared neither capable willing or motivated to get on with a role they were elected to deliver on. The real differences are in the ability and capability of the union officials who are prepared to deliver the commitment to get the breaches of contracts into the formal Employment law arean and have independent analysis by employment law judges and panel sitters from employers side and the trade unions. Only then on the judgement will decide exactly the standard and the legality of the conduct of the TR CRC employers. We are confident the employers wont like the outcomes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-17506599588748924182016-10-01T09:02:24.660+01:002016-10-01T09:02:24.660+01:00Sodexo in Northumbria offered Severance pay for st...Sodexo in Northumbria offered Severance pay for staff who wanted leave. Napo advised members not to take it as they had to sign a disclaimer preventing you from taking legal action re transfer agreement and EVR payments. Unfortunately, Sodexo won as staff took severance because they wanted out. 50% managers went, 40% PO grade 40% admin and a very few pso,. It has been recorded on this forum and others is that enough proof? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-52065287565956717812016-10-01T08:05:42.282+01:002016-10-01T08:05:42.282+01:00Do you have proof to back up your claims? If not t...Do you have proof to back up your claims? If not them I feel many are going to attribute your post as professional agitation, ostensibly by WL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-52678127607319494932016-10-01T08:04:48.247+01:002016-10-01T08:04:48.247+01:00Is the propose WL new offer of EVR only open to st...Is the propose WL new offer of EVR only open to staff under 55, with those over 55 only able to opt for early retirement, with reductions? Trying to understand the basics of the suggested scheme. If my understanding is correct, isn't this 'age discrimination'? The previous EVR opened out to Corporate staff offered enhanced rates of redundancy and unreduced pensions to staff over 55. A person over 55 would have received an EVR 'lump sum', unreduced pension lump sum and their annual pension.How many Senior Managers benefited from this, I wonder?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-11483435848504579042016-10-01T00:30:55.416+01:002016-10-01T00:30:55.416+01:00This is what happened in Sodexo a year ago. It'...This is what happened in Sodexo a year ago. It's what's happening in Working Links now. It will happen in Purple Futures and RRP and the Durham Mutual. There is no role for Probation Officers in CRC's. The job simply does not exist. As an earlier exiter from Sodexo, I'd urge you to take the money and run if you are a PO shafted into a CRC. Don't hold out for a better offer. It won't come. Leave. Get a different job, be happier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com