tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post4753435487656667038..comments2024-03-28T14:37:09.958+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: NOMS For the ChopJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-974571765049229192016-01-30T10:38:15.625+00:002016-01-30T10:38:15.625+00:00Hatton you are back :)Hatton you are back :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-43786971919542050232016-01-29T20:31:23.252+00:002016-01-29T20:31:23.252+00:00The rats will now be looking for other sewers they...The rats will now be looking for other sewers they can inhabit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-8531445429505642822016-01-29T18:28:55.904+00:002016-01-29T18:28:55.904+00:00The only people that might actually miss NOMS are ...The only people that might actually miss NOMS are Michael Spurr and his lackeys. It has to rate as one of THE most waste of space and money organisations in the history of the UK. It does nothing positive but much negative and talks in some sort of weird gobbeldygook whereby the letter writer can waste pages saying absolutely nothing at great lengthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-37334279262225061062016-01-29T18:01:00.646+00:002016-01-29T18:01:00.646+00:00I predict (NPS) probation will become at best an a...I predict (NPS) probation will become at best an adjunct to prison, police and courts with probation staff employed directly by those services. The end of NOMs will only hasten that development. (crc) probation on the other hand? see other legacy social services now in the hands of third/charitable sector including youthwork and social careAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-87590476825072008102016-01-29T18:00:56.542+00:002016-01-29T18:00:56.542+00:00http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/prison-guards-high-...http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/prison-guards-high-on-spice-uk-vgtrn-282Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-16093924176426313842016-01-29T17:48:59.841+00:002016-01-29T17:48:59.841+00:00Working links had discussions with unions today. O...Working links had discussions with unions today. On Monday phone conference with managers who will then tell staff. Shit weekend ahead. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-57745187407999340042016-01-29T17:40:30.029+00:002016-01-29T17:40:30.029+00:00Whole load of job positions sent out to us in Nps...Whole load of job positions sent out to us in Nps today. All about prison reform planning etc. Very short turn around for applications - think 3 Feb. <br />Probably will be filled with the same crowd who are already in Noms. I hope not as it really needs a clean sweep to get the reform the prisons need. <br />I interviewed someone today who has done far too many days behind a cell door who was saying how unsafe, violent and full of spice they are now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-70758674322875790852016-01-29T16:51:22.290+00:002016-01-29T16:51:22.290+00:00Getting rid of NOMS would save so much money and N...Getting rid of NOMS would save so much money and NOMS would hardly be missed at all. This would be an excellent step for Gove to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-76484764383107598932016-01-29T15:43:06.279+00:002016-01-29T15:43:06.279+00:00The government is to scrap a key scheme designed t...The government is to scrap a key scheme designed to tackle gang violence, the Guardian has confirmed, prompting a warning that the Home Office should not “put a price on the lives of our young people”.<br /><br />The Ending Gang Violence and Exploitation Peer Review Network was set up by the Home Office after the 2011 riots and brought together police, academics, former gang members and experts to help local areas develop strategies for dealing with gang culture.<br /><br />In a leaked letter from the Home Office to local authority staff involved in the scheme, the department said the “frontline team support and associated funding will be ending at the end of March” and that it would “not be offering any further centrally funded peer reviews or local assessment processes in the next financial year”.<br /><br />Chuka Umunna, MP for Streatham and former shadow business secretary, described the step as retrograde and said it would “seriously compromise” efforts to reduce gang and serious youth violence. “If it is being done to cost-cut, I say you cannot put a price on the lives of our young people,” he said.<br /><br />Umunna said the network was not being replaced with “anything meaningful” and that a couple of civil servants with no expert knowledge would have responsibility for the issue added to their existing work.Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-40599950636680664952016-01-29T15:04:07.240+00:002016-01-29T15:04:07.240+00:00Yes of course, Anon at 14:03 BUT the problem now ...Yes of course, Anon at 14:03 BUT the problem now - which seems barely acknowledged, is that Probation has lost its local base with the former loudest cheerleaders - the Magistracy all but wiped out apart from being overlaid with 'District Judges' and now gathering in County & City Centres - like some latter-day Quarter Sessionists who are expected to meet once a fortnight, to do the bidding of the national Sovereign's current appointee, with very limited scope for truly individualised adjudications.<br /><br />Back in 1980, when Thatcher's 1st Government was struggling to escape the Winter of Discontent and probation officers and separately social workers & other local authority workers had outstanding pay claims, Napo targeted Chairmen (many were women) of the Magistrate's Benches for support. To some extent it worked, many of us were individually personally known & regarded by those JPs who in turn were treated with respect in Conservative Party circles.<br /><br />Those JPs have almost been superseded or wiped out now & I suspect are generally not well known to many front-line probation workers, to the extent that there is mutual personal respect. I suspect that it was such people having impact on the Home Secretary, William Whitelaw, that at least got us a hearing, which does not seem to happen nowadays.<br /><br />Somehow probation workers, who seem almost forgotten and rarely no more than an afterthought, even for most Corbynist MPs, need to get more attention, or when the time eventually comes, as it must, the work will be re-organised yet again by others.Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-88684688731017443902016-01-29T15:01:09.333+00:002016-01-29T15:01:09.333+00:00http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/29/go...http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/29/government-stop-funding-tackle-gang-violence-chuka-umunnaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-85322267472538478992016-01-29T14:11:10.717+00:002016-01-29T14:11:10.717+00:00There's always hope - wikipedia:-
"Hope ...There's always hope - wikipedia:-<br /><br />"Hope is an optimistic attitude of mind based on an expectation of positive outcomes related to events and circumstances in one's life or the world at large."<br /><br />"Dr. Barbara L. Fredrickson argues that hope comes into its own when crisis looms, opening us to new creative possibilities. Frederickson argues that with great need comes an unusually wide range of ideas, as well as such positive emotions as happiness and joy, courage, and empowerment, drawn from four different areas of one’s self: from a cognitive, psychological, social, or physical perspective."Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-14876540239166467082016-01-29T14:03:06.275+00:002016-01-29T14:03:06.275+00:00We must be extremely careful what we wish for with...We must be extremely careful what we wish for with Gove. Anon@13:18 above gives a beautiful precis of the man's approach. Many education professionals tell me Gove is "quite simply deluded" and that the damage he did to our education system far exceeds the vandalism Grayling got away with.<br /><br />However, I would support any decision to delete the NOMS gravy train from the criminal justice timetable. JB argues the case well against the organisation that has grown fat on the basis of self-importance, as opposed to fulfilling any meaningful role. It was NOMS who, by dangling & waving secondments & shiny things, distracted & divided the probation profession. Once staff had stuffed themselves at the swanky NOMS table they were dispatched back to the provinces & proceeded to defecate freely on their own doorsteps.<br /><br />Suddenly local fare wasn't good enough and staff in the regions were lambasted for being "parochial", "provincial", "not seeing the bigger picture" or "unsophisticated". Ambition & greed blinkered the chosen few and the notion of local services tailored to local areas was lost as NOMS tightened its grip on budgets & policies and imposed their will.<br /><br />So yes please, lets get shot of the wormtongues, the shapeshifters & the whole nest of narcissistic cuckoos who are NOMS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-26421399473534671202016-01-29T13:18:29.872+00:002016-01-29T13:18:29.872+00:00I have grave doubts about welcoming Gove as the sa...I have grave doubts about welcoming Gove as the saviour of Probation. He has a history of relying upon his own special advisors and the lightbulb thoughts he has regarding policy when looking at himself in the mirror each morning while shaving rather than listening to people on the ground who are actually doing the job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-1154573190817332572016-01-29T12:54:29.967+00:002016-01-29T12:54:29.967+00:00North Wales, much of Cheshire and probably Staffor...North Wales, much of Cheshire and probably Staffordshire has needed to be served by a local prison not in the Manchester/Liverpool area since at least the 1970s. However building a monster Local at Wrexham is simply daft but as with other poor location siting decisions, about prisons, like moving women out of central London, they remain for a long-time.<br /><br />Plus UK Governments waste money and professional energy and stir frustration by holding enquiries and then ignoring them - Woolfe on Strangeway's and to bring us up to date - Harris on deaths of young people under State detention (sneaked out the day Parliament recessed for Christmas).<br /><br />The bigger question is whether Gove's appointment as Lord Chancellor is seriously about Criminal Justice or merely political expediency, in which case we will probably get a Grayling clone type person back at the MOJ before the General Election in 2020, by which time the Conservative's will have a new leader. I guess the events - dear boy - between now and then will also be part of the PR jigsaw that will affect the Conservatives who above all else want to remain in Government. Liberal Democrats have had their goose burnt to a cinder as they succumbed to their lust for power. The populace has for the time being seen of the junior Conservatives - though there will be a fight back from the Mandlesonians, I am almost certain. <br /><br />Whither Probation - who knows? - it hardly got a mention in the Corbynite's first "big go" at Criminal Justice this week. Presumably Gove's silence is contrived and not because there is nothing to say.<br /><br />We live in interesting times, can the media and parliament even now realise that probation is a key part of the CJS in England and Wales? - I am not very optimistic.Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-83067949624256036172016-01-29T12:00:06.432+00:002016-01-29T12:00:06.432+00:00Didn't Narey do well!!! On that subject, I no...Didn't Narey do well!!! On that subject, I note that he was/is a paid consultant for 3 years for G4S and had described Rainsbrook Secure Youth Prison as being very caring and doing overwhelming well. Last year he was paid £10000 by G4S.Hmmm...<br /><br />I have also found a Justice Committee report 23/5/11, discussing 'The Role of the Probation Service' and examining witness Martin Narey. Interesting.<br /><br />Google - 'House of Commons- Justice Committee - minutes of evidence'mlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-63572820258682280062016-01-29T11:56:57.012+00:002016-01-29T11:56:57.012+00:00Good riddens. What has noms done anyway.Good riddens. What has noms done anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com