tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post4554520055240989737..comments2024-03-28T17:27:56.016+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Bleak Futures Week 5Jim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-91632366491092126252015-02-10T10:04:53.069+00:002015-02-10T10:04:53.069+00:00Laura Richards supported and promoted mine and my ...Laura Richards supported and promoted mine and my partners convicted criminal psychopathic serial Domestic Violence abuser and Cyber stalker, see the story 3/4 way down this page https://dorsetpoliceignoredomesticviolenceorderbreaches.wordpress.com/2014/12/07/convicted-criminal-ronnie-hobby-threats-to-christopher-causing-him-to-fear-violence-against-him/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-58356010125205027572015-02-01T20:40:30.063+00:002015-02-01T20:40:30.063+00:00Wise stance Jim (though I bet JL sports a wry smil...Wise stance Jim (though I bet JL sports a wry smile). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-88048304482662647832015-02-01T20:26:36.824+00:002015-02-01T20:26:36.824+00:00This is worth reading (off topic), as this could b...This is worth reading (off topic), as this could be the new UKs partners in all things criminal justice.<br /><br /> https://uk.news.yahoo.com/saudi-beheads-murderer-5th-execution-under-king-184623186.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-17718501314291202102015-02-01T18:40:28.906+00:002015-02-01T18:40:28.906+00:00I really don't think it would be wise to say a...I really don't think it would be wise to say anything at the moment but rather take note and await the outcome of the investigation.Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-49901861320040584422015-02-01T18:40:08.397+00:002015-02-01T18:40:08.397+00:00I assume this will be someone who was initially re...I assume this will be someone who was initially released on a 12 mth licence. They should (if eligible) get an initial fixed term recall of 28 days. If they are then released and recalled again the parole board decides whether or not to release on licence again. If they are not released until their SED then I believe that is the end of it. <br />Compare this to someone who gets a 12 mth sentence ie 6mths in prison, 6mths on licence followed by 6 mths post sentence supervision PSS). The fixed term recall for under 12 monthers is just 14 days. If they are then released & recalled again they can only stay in until the length of the original sentence ie 12 mths. They would then be released on the 6 mths PSS.<br />If they breach during this period the court has various sanctions the worse being 14 days in prison - but the clock keeps running for the whole 6 mths so they come out back out on the same PSS & could potentially breach again & get another 14 days (or other sanction).........perhaps I have learned things from our area's briefings (DLNR CRC)........BobbyjoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-17840464381771229782015-02-01T18:29:54.253+00:002015-02-01T18:29:54.253+00:00Why has everyone ignored the Harry Fletcher story....Why has everyone ignored the Harry Fletcher story. This is a serious allegation against a high profile figure associated with napo and our Service. After the removal of our previous G.S Ledger napo cannot afford further scandals. Do people go into our union for the politics or the privileged position and kudos on the top table, before taking full advantage. We all know it goes onAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-75320503778382204752015-02-01T18:22:25.505+00:002015-02-01T18:22:25.505+00:00What happens to someone serving 2 years whos relea...What happens to someone serving 2 years whos released on sentence expiry date?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-29294053096447818742015-02-01T18:12:18.759+00:002015-02-01T18:12:18.759+00:00slight correction to the above.......the violent o...slight correction to the above.......the violent offender who gets 15 mths will also get 12 mths supervision....7.5 mths on licence topped up with 4.5 mths post sentence supervision......everyone sentenced to over 1 day & under 2 yrs gets 12mths supervision in some form (those getting a 2 yr sentence already get 1 yr on licence)..........there are definitely questions about fairness & proportionality though........BobbyjoeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-60415299035018920762015-02-01T17:01:50.748+00:002015-02-01T17:01:50.748+00:00Although its a serious concern, I can't help b...Although its a serious concern, I can't help being a little amused by this report.<br />If Sodoxo can't even provide reasonable food for prisoners, given that they are after all a catering firm, what hope is there in getting TR right?<br /><br /> http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/cold-food-protest-almost-caused-8557651Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-26074877623662723232015-02-01T16:54:48.764+00:002015-02-01T16:54:48.764+00:00and in all of this has there been any consideratio...and in all of this has there been any consideration of equitable punishment ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-64301374691635162502015-02-01T16:53:06.965+00:002015-02-01T16:53:06.965+00:00http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2015/02/01/prisone...http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2015/02/01/prisoner-book-ban-comes-to-an-endAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-62897711614248509422015-02-01T16:36:11.050+00:002015-02-01T16:36:11.050+00:00http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/feb/01/presume...http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/feb/01/presumed-guilty-ministry-justice-axes-criminal-trial-advice?CMP=share_btn_twAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-47171241795243217802015-02-01T16:34:36.490+00:002015-02-01T16:34:36.490+00:00http://reformingprisons.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/pro...http://reformingprisons.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/probations-february-revolution-enter.html?spref=twAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-49678173638370357552015-02-01T15:40:31.705+00:002015-02-01T15:40:31.705+00:00And all to report to a kiosk? Yes, I hear that tho...And all to report to a kiosk? Yes, I hear that those are on the agenda. The media backlash will be entertaining, if nothing else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-87240145746145020082015-02-01T15:02:34.227+00:002015-02-01T15:02:34.227+00:00The violent Offender Anon 13.51 will now have a to...The violent Offender Anon 13.51 will now have a total of 12 months on supervision, same period of licence as before and a further periiod of supervision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-58234566685794207092015-02-01T14:52:19.218+00:002015-02-01T14:52:19.218+00:00Of course there can't be any training with reg...Of course there can't be any training with regard to ORA.<br />All the private companies are going to do things differently from each other, and that means that Sodoxos 'interpretation' of the ORA will probably be very different to Interserves 'interpretation'.<br />Therefore training cannot be generic, but specific and relative to region and company approach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-62625003621474239302015-02-01T14:45:35.799+00:002015-02-01T14:45:35.799+00:00I can envisage offenders being seen by the RO driv...I can envisage offenders being seen by the RO driving around all day to HVs - as long as they are seen it counts and it may be the only way to ensure completions so income is earned in the Probation for Profit businesses. Cheaper to provide a lease car and a tablet so records updated immediately than to support all those offices. One hub centre for each area and the ROs given a patch to work...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-69009436588785376512015-02-01T14:37:54.307+00:002015-02-01T14:37:54.307+00:00I had lunch with friends yesterday 3 of whom are M...I had lunch with friends yesterday 3 of whom are Magistrates (2 different courts) and they described real dissatisfaction with their roles for the first time. One described arriving for his duty sitting and 3 benches being sent home as the District Judges had insisted business was moved to their courts. Now, he pointed out DJs earn £115k pa whereas Magistrates get expenses so he suggested they are trying to protect their position in light of the cuts. Another friend described the Clerks being really dissatisfied and talking about cuts to their numbers. Gossip around both courts seems to be no-one sees the point of probation any more. She said that oral reports told the Magistrates little other than proposed sentence and appeared pointless to her, she said their introduction had really damaged probation standing with Benches and the Clerks. Everyone described confusion about ORA and training not being delivered yet because "there's no-one available to do it", pretty much like probation experience really.<br />Talk also turned to defence solicitors and firms amalgamating, with people saying they feared being able to pay their mortgages for the first time. Overall a real sense that the Magistrates Courts are in disarray and a once pretty cohesive system falling apart. Really sad....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-15075918697153525082015-02-01T14:35:54.776+00:002015-02-01T14:35:54.776+00:00At present bus fare is paid for Unpaid Work, Progr...At present bus fare is paid for Unpaid Work, Programmes, drug treatment and education but i can see this being cut. Then attendance will drop like a stone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-13487308543437305432015-02-01T14:26:37.996+00:002015-02-01T14:26:37.996+00:00All of them. Transport will now be provided by the...All of them. Transport will now be provided by the 'old lags' :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-45226308756243750692015-02-01T14:18:46.538+00:002015-02-01T14:18:46.538+00:00Do we know what areas have stopped bus fares? Or p...Do we know what areas have stopped bus fares? Or plan to? <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-16166337825015658292015-02-01T13:52:32.948+00:002015-02-01T13:52:32.948+00:00It says police questioned Harry in November. Why a...It says police questioned Harry in November. Why are the Daily Mail reporting on this now? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-49622607211353563562015-02-01T13:51:49.635+00:002015-02-01T13:51:49.635+00:00Travel expenses for clients is already a thing of ...Travel expenses for clients is already a thing of the past in some areas. <br />Clearly, they'll go accross the board very soon, causing many more problems.<br />The thing that gets me in all of this though, is, what would a judge say if some bright client brought a case arguing that its unfair and disporportionate, that having recieved 7 days imprisonment for shoplifting they now have 12 months supervision, yet the violent offender that attracts a 15month sentence has only 7 1/2months supervision?<br />Indeed, a 7 month sentence will see you receive a greater amount of engagement with the CJS then someone that does actually receive 15month.<br />Surely it wont be long before thats brought before the courts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-47481057240051359762015-02-01T13:29:07.379+00:002015-02-01T13:29:07.379+00:00Quick question, is there any additional money for ...Quick question, is there any additional money for the travel tickets for 50,000 new clients?<br /><br />£5-£7 a time<br />x 50,000 <br />x 12 if seen monthly<br /><br />£3m at the least and this is only for £5 tickets, could easily add another million on.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-57975633518604207912015-02-01T13:24:00.973+00:002015-02-01T13:24:00.973+00:00You're likely right. And what may have origina...You're likely right. And what may have originally been a 6 month CO will now be a 12 month RAR/PSS/TGI Friday. Thus adding more strain on the service.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com