tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post3426084539844144314..comments2024-03-19T11:00:28.509+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Guest Blog 45Jim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-24377289284912380712015-09-18T14:24:31.572+01:002015-09-18T14:24:31.572+01:00Jim How about something about the Tax problem?Jim How about something about the Tax problem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-6135462368137952922015-09-11T15:23:05.292+01:002015-09-11T15:23:05.292+01:00or more recently, david cameron ;)or more recently, david cameron ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-82567197686458743982015-09-11T08:12:57.331+01:002015-09-11T08:12:57.331+01:00I suspect Anon 23:48 does not work for probation. ...I suspect Anon 23:48 does not work for probation. Her/his comments are stylistically very similar to someone who used to post on her a year or so ago, who had a Union Jack avatar - I forget his name but his Blogger bio revealed he was a stockbroker. I suspect he's back (if he was ever away) but now posting anonymously instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-54319837214599913332015-09-11T08:09:11.833+01:002015-09-11T08:09:11.833+01:00It was Jon Cruddas who said that Labour as a whole...It was Jon Cruddas who said that Labour as a whole, not Corbyn specifically, risked turning "an early 80s tribute act, a Trotskyist tribute act". As a former policy adviser for Tony Blair, you'd hardly expect him to be unbiased on this point (although he was one of those who lent their nominations to Corbyn). But if you look beyond the hysterical headlines, Cruddas actually went on to say that he has been enthused by the debate and the energy this has generated. Sure, it looks a bit messy, but having a wider range of views expressed is democracy in action.<br /><br />George Osborne is also noticing this, and he's worried. For all his incompetence as Chancellor of the Exchequer (he's borrowed more money than all Labour Chancellors in history put together, let's remember, and took an economy which was recovering in 2010 back into recession), he's a fairly shrewd reader of the political landscape (which is probably what makes him such a bad Chancellor - he goes for short term political wins rather than what will actually help the economy). If Osborne thought Anon 23:48's rabid reactionary right wing take on the situation was accurate, he would be quietly letting Labour get on with having its own argument. Instead, Osborne knows that the Tory party is about to have its own internal scrap over Europe, and he's frantically trying to tack left again (although he's calling it 'occupying the centre ground'). He's starting to offer policies like the National Living Wage (not a living wage, but let's ignore that for the moment) which appeal to people outside the normal Tory core. If Kendall/Cooper/Burnham were to win and continued to pursue Tory-lite policies, George would be sticking where he's most comfortable on the right.<br /><br />Politics is what happens every day, not just once every five years. A Labour Party chasing right wing votes until 2020, assuming its core members aren't going to switch to other parties as a protest, is no good to anyone. A Labour Party which recognises that politics is not the same as in the 1980s, but has also changed since the 1990s and 2000s, and that it probably has to start thinking about building a broader coalition rather than aspiring to a majority (and like Jim hints, gives some serious thought to electoral reform) might be useful.<br /><br />So, Anon 23:48, keep taking the pills - you might be in for one hell of a headache.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-89450613107359628232015-09-11T06:59:07.928+01:002015-09-11T06:59:07.928+01:00I think some people on here have forgotten how the...I think some people on here have forgotten how they got their terms and conditions and nice middle-class life. How anyone can still vote Tory who works for probation is beyond me. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-86539786232927143982015-09-11T06:41:43.211+01:002015-09-11T06:41:43.211+01:00I find it astonishing in all this discussion that ...I find it astonishing in all this discussion that nobody talks about the electoral system and the fact that it does not deliver a democratic result. More people voted against Thatcher during her 'landslide' years than voted for her - but that's democracy right? Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-9788083422668407392015-09-11T01:26:00.642+01:002015-09-11T01:26:00.642+01:00You're probably right (oh and +1 for the Micha...You're probably right (oh and +1 for the Michael Winner reference)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-61814238373144726722015-09-11T00:45:58.710+01:002015-09-11T00:45:58.710+01:00Get some sleep. Calm down dear.Get some sleep. Calm down dear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-90228116027282645782015-09-11T00:39:32.679+01:002015-09-11T00:39:32.679+01:00Oh and 'Papa'... Regarding "Corbyn be...Oh and 'Papa'... Regarding "Corbyn being the only way to save probation" - perhaps you could clue us all in on all the pronouncements he's made regarding his policy on justice please?<br /><br />(*tumbleweed blows across thread/crickets chirping*)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-39308621029505493592015-09-10T23:59:53.048+01:002015-09-10T23:59:53.048+01:00By the way,remember what else happened in Scotland...By the way,remember what else happened in Scotland a few months ago -push came to shove and they lined up to vote AGAINST the SNP's core reason for existing - interesting, that! EVEN in red Labour's socialist 80's heyday they couldn't manage a win, and that was against their bète noir, Thatcher. Why do you think that happened? I'm genuinely curious! Hasbyn's policies are pretty much the same, so what do you think the outcome will be this time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-80396702588305486102015-09-10T23:48:07.899+01:002015-09-10T23:48:07.899+01:00"A sensible left wing approach" - we hav..."A sensible left wing approach" - we haven't seen much of that! Printing money, scrapping NATO, pure swivel-eyes nonsense - do you think that's why even the MPs that put him on the ballot are performing a hasty back-and-fill? Why even his own aides advised him to quit? Even today a member of Labour referred to him as an 80s tribute act!<br /><br />Ifyou think I'm displaying fear then I hope your day job doesn't involve judging people's moods! I can't wait for him to be elected, the fallout will be hilarious... How many of the current shadow cabinet say they won't serve with him? 8 or so? <br /><br />Vote Hasbyn - sorry - Corbyn! :-DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-44303632880932337442015-09-10T22:53:43.263+01:002015-09-10T22:53:43.263+01:00I love a good delusional rant - thank you 2219 - ...I love a good delusional rant - thank you 2219 - fear is great and that is all your post shows. The reality is that there is a massive electoral pool who can and will support a sensible left wing approach. It is a few years until the next election and the groundswell will grow. Be afraid, be very afraid - just look at what happened in Scotland a few months ago. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-13689875275542519382015-09-10T22:51:24.852+01:002015-09-10T22:51:24.852+01:00Do you think rehabilitation was the brainchild of ...Do you think rehabilitation was the brainchild of conservatives who think of community penalties as 'non punishments?'. Then enjoy your redundancy, I certainly shall!. Top muppetry 22:19!.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-82236484526525164332015-09-10T22:19:34.507+01:002015-09-10T22:19:34.507+01:00What twaddle! Socialism is a hot topic only becaus...What twaddle! Socialism is a hot topic only because people are being reminded how dreadful it is. In reality,you're witnessing the death of the Labour party, spin it how you might. A win for Corbyn will mean a conservative landslide come the next General election -the electorate aren't the gullible dreamers the left hope they are! Enjoy your irrelevance, I certainly shall!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-83385058792990234682015-09-10T21:45:43.695+01:002015-09-10T21:45:43.695+01:00Isn't JSi one of Mr Grayling's businesses ...Isn't JSi one of Mr Grayling's businesses ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-29521296227183322632015-09-10T21:39:03.006+01:002015-09-10T21:39:03.006+01:00There is a huge problem with Senior Managers. They...There is a huge problem with Senior Managers. They speak about leadership, yet so few have any skill or even comprehension of what that actually involves. This is not about management bashing , resistance to change, laziness or pique , it's a fact. TR is now over 12 months in and the NPS are still faffing about trying to work out how to develop a coherent and national set of practice, policy and processes.For goodness sake, just identify what needs to be done and work out how best to achieve it, it's not rocket science. For ages they seem to have been faffing about with E3, apparently Effectiveness,Efficiency and Excellence or similar. This appears to need senior managers to be getting together monthly, and 'considering' all the different practices that have been around and trying to put together the best of all, good idea but how long do they need ?!!!! it's easy to imagine, the egos, our way is better than your way, we could modify this and incorporate that, but of most importance whose names go on the bottom. They are spending time selecting Champions, fgs,That just goes to prove they haven't got the faintest clue how to lead and communicate, good leaders do they do it easily and don't need champions.They also come out of hiding , ask questions and listen...<br />There has been no evidence of review, consideration of what is actually possible . The IT systems hamper, hinder and are not even close to what would be an efficient and effective tool. Senior Managers need to be held to account.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-65980464194043228612015-09-10T19:41:04.824+01:002015-09-10T19:41:04.824+01:00Forgot to say - above post 19:33 was from me.
DebForgot to say - above post 19:33 was from me.<br />DebAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-80465993185882940432015-09-10T19:33:46.159+01:002015-09-10T19:33:46.159+01:00Too true - it all hinges on what you think you are...Too true - it all hinges on what you think you are employed to do (with the commensurate wages) and what you end up being asked to do. A few years ago my brother worked for a security company and was seconded to a probation AP in the home counties (can't remember where) for a considerable placement (think abt 3 months) to provide waking night security cover for the hostel. He phoned me shortly after starting very worried as he was being asked to do drug testing. He has never been trained in drug testing; its not usually a requirement for shopping centre night security staff!! I confirmed with him what he had been employed to do (which was, to provide security for the building, not as a hostel keyworker) and told him to refuse to do the testing. Shortly afterwards he was asked to assist in informing a resident he was to be evicted; the manager was concerned the resident would kick off. My brother refused; again pointing out to the manager this was not part of his job description. He found himself a different job very quickly...<br />In my view my brother should never have been employed by the hostel in the first place - they clearly wanted a different skill set, altho happy to pay the wage level of a security guard. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-13432408104380254152015-09-10T19:06:57.110+01:002015-09-10T19:06:57.110+01:00Corbyn is the only way to save probation. Socialis...Corbyn is the only way to save probation. Socialism is a hot topic again and austerity is for fools. People need more money to spend this is the only way to increase demand, the bankers and their political stooges only think in the short term. The world is in meltdown this move to the Left in the West is fantastic, support Corbyn. Support Socialism and fight neoliberalism's wars and economy.<br /><br />papaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-2059457655519193332015-09-10T18:22:09.906+01:002015-09-10T18:22:09.906+01:00Good idea. I don't know anything about E3, des...Good idea. I don't know anything about E3, despite (unless my manager was joking) being nominated as a local 'champion' for it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-67076686735888300772015-09-10T15:30:13.097+01:002015-09-10T15:30:13.097+01:00perhaps a focus on E3 could be good. This agenda i...perhaps a focus on E3 could be good. This agenda is going to change a lot of our jobs but nobody appears to understand it. <br />There have been meetings but nothing is cascading down, has anybody any knowledge they can share?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-55104286131054619492015-09-10T13:24:20.757+01:002015-09-10T13:24:20.757+01:00Pray how does Anon 13:02 (lacking the nouse to eve...Pray how does Anon 13:02 (lacking the nouse to even construct a pseudonym) by drawing attention to what s/he considers a 'deflection' aid the advancement of Guest Blogger 45's topic by drawing attention to the 'diversion' when s/he might alternatively have said such as; GBs comments were confirming one's suspicion of the integrity of those in control of The Labour Party's organisation?<br /><br />It seems that if Corbyn is elected leader he will face persistent rubbishing by those who profess to be friends of True Labour who are little more than cronies of Blairism.Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-82248333708200654112015-09-10T13:02:20.763+01:002015-09-10T13:02:20.763+01:00Hatton and Brown stay on topic. Stop deflecting. I...Hatton and Brown stay on topic. Stop deflecting. I expect this from Hatton but not you Jim :/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-14111624260222266282015-09-10T11:44:00.617+01:002015-09-10T11:44:00.617+01:00From the TUCs Going to Work Website: -
"Our ...From the TUCs Going to Work Website: -<br /><br />"Our MPs will soon get their first chance to debate the government's controversial trade union bill, as it receives its second reading in the Commons. It's an important chance to raise early objections to this divisive legislation. "<br /><br />http://goingtowork.org.uk/Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-63129558781816511782015-09-10T10:50:57.187+01:002015-09-10T10:50:57.187+01:00Sadly, have to agree with you there, and I too am ...Sadly, have to agree with you there, and I too am neither Sodexo, or Senior Management.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com