tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post3130359323828853905..comments2024-03-29T13:05:24.150+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Pick of the Week 18Jim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-78876355857666843402016-11-01T08:01:08.572+00:002016-11-01T08:01:08.572+00:00With such a rational, reasonable example of your w...With such a rational, reasonable example of your world view, I can't for the life of me understand why you didn't get a more friendly response from any of your POs. Nothing short of a dereliction of duty on their part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-88924749360625578482016-10-31T19:06:22.436+00:002016-10-31T19:06:22.436+00:00TR is the fault of the individuals employed by the...TR is the fault of the individuals employed by the service. Stop blaming everyone else for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-22053172750776371692016-10-31T16:37:11.751+00:002016-10-31T16:37:11.751+00:00There's none so blind as those that will not s...There's none so blind as those that will not see. Perhaps you should think about taking some responsibility for yourself and stop blaming everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-45280152748785544462016-10-31T15:36:38.938+00:002016-10-31T15:36:38.938+00:00What help would that be then? What do you have to ...What help would that be then? What do you have to offer that is going to help?<br /><br />Or do you not know enough about me and are making your own broad generalisations on your own narrow experience based on what you have read on some internet comments section?<br /><br />You're just not nice people. You aid and abet the Prisons crisis, making private profits from crime, and are have to take a degree of responsibility for reoffences.<br /><br />You just stand by and have done nothing to stop any of that. Complicit in the extreme. So tell me, what do you have to offer that is of more value to me than a genuine caring friendship for another human being?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-57317481195778833162016-10-31T15:18:05.400+00:002016-10-31T15:18:05.400+00:00Some of my clients want and need my help and suppo...Some of my clients want and need my help and support. They're usually the most professionally satisfying to work with, where I can see a difference is being made.<br /><br />Some want help and support, but don't really need it, or at least not from me. I try to help these clients find the right places to go.<br /><br />Some genuinely neither want nor need the help. I'm ok with that - but they still have to check in with me every now and then, because a court has told them they have to. And of course things might change.<br /><br />The most challenging group are those that need the help, but don't want it. I think you fall into this group, and I'm afraid, the more hostile you get, the more I think you need the input. At this point it becomes about public protection. The people who report to us aren't the only users of the service: so are the courts, victims and other members of the public. It's a one-sided relationship because you've been told to be there, because you broke the law. Your experience may have been that it was unthinking and uncaring, but if you looked outside your cloud of self pity, you might realise it's dangerous to generalise from your own narrow experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-73618528409228920982016-10-31T14:58:23.035+00:002016-10-31T14:58:23.035+00:00Good, then we would be great, if you were my PO th...Good, then we would be great, if you were my PO that suit me down to the ground. You have no insight to bring from your own experiences so do not expect me to demonstrate anything of value to yourself or anybody else...<br /><br />As Probation is for so many, an unhelpful hindrance, more likely to cause bad feeling and reoffending than prevent it. So many of you will never hear that side of it, not in the ivory tower of proffesionalism that you reside in.<br /><br />Heartless, unthinking, uncaring, one sided relationships are just what Service Users require don't you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-221090773997269762016-10-31T07:01:05.685+00:002016-10-31T07:01:05.685+00:00"I despise all these people because they want..."I despise all these people because they wanted to do the job they were paid to do, and didn't tell me all about their lives!"<br /><br />Do you not hear how petulant and whiny you sound? If I met you in the any other context and you were behaving in such a demanding, self-important and hostile way, I wouldn't want to tell you about my life, let alone if we had to have a professional relationship.<br /><br />Of course it's a one-sided relationship, one person is told to be there by a Court! I do sometimes tell clients about my life, but only small amounts and only where it's relevant. It would be disrespectful to them to do any more than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-80013373223136480502016-10-31T00:37:22.722+00:002016-10-31T00:37:22.722+00:00Ah so being a Probation Officer you want to draw m...Ah so being a Probation Officer you want to draw me on specifics, well being a Service User I was only to happy to talk to a number of your ilk for a considerable amount of time, it boils down to being expected to update you on all things in my life without reciprocation from any of the people who were put infront of me. Very unsupportive, very one sided relationship, many down right abusive people. After a while I learnt that to get on in Probation don't say anything, maybe even talk complete crap to their face. None of you as people impressed upon me that you were worth spending any time with.<br /><br />There's a vouyeristic bent to being a Probation Officer, many of you past and present are very psychologically abusive in your mindset towards Service Users.<br /><br />I enjoy the mess you're in, it's sure sickening about SFO's but it's taken all of you powerless pawns to drive the whole damn thing into this mess. Don't blame anyone but yourselves, each one of you stood by and did nothing to try to stop TR from happening. You deserve the mess that you are in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-90795934004718931622016-10-30T21:48:07.635+00:002016-10-30T21:48:07.635+00:00If no-one can give an honest reply, what's the...If no-one can give an honest reply, what's the point in asking? And indeed, what's the point of your comment, if you haven't actually spoken to "the vast majority" of clients over the "very many years" that you speak of.<br /><br />If you were speaking in such wild generalisations to me about how I wasn't helping you move forward with your life, I might not necessarily think that you were more likely to re-offend. But I would definitely think that you took very little responsibility for your own life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-24357618552134074632016-10-30T21:04:52.236+00:002016-10-30T21:04:52.236+00:00ACAS has a helpline. ACAS has a helpline. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-29798832408193163202016-10-30T20:38:58.655+00:002016-10-30T20:38:58.655+00:00There were alot of genuinely independant bodies wh...There were alot of genuinely independant bodies who were employed to find the correct statistics that advocate alot of the alchemic devices that have been dished out in the direction of Service users down the years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-31305253211991608012016-10-30T20:18:13.208+00:002016-10-30T20:18:13.208+00:00It is simplistic. It is the simple truth of the ma...It is simplistic. It is the simple truth of the matter for the vast majority of Service Users. Has been for very many years. Disagree? Why not ask the next Service User you meet? I'm sure they wouldn't dare say otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-36366705472619100022016-10-30T20:01:43.242+00:002016-10-30T20:01:43.242+00:0019.48 actually i tend to agree as a po that asking...19.48 actually i tend to agree as a po that asking people to complete these forms whilst they wait in reception and then hand them in to reception staff who could read them, and judging from what i have seen, do read them is off-putting and not appropriate. Also dyslexia etc can make it difficult for some to complete. It would make more sense for a genuinely independant body to send someone around the offices to do random samples from time to time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-39082253341489998432016-10-30T19:58:01.186+00:002016-10-30T19:58:01.186+00:00See above.See above.Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-28036998072420293792016-10-30T19:57:29.059+00:002016-10-30T19:57:29.059+00:00That's extremely simplistic - make your case a...That's extremely simplistic - make your case and we can debate the points you raise.Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-62685281964388367722016-10-30T19:52:30.446+00:002016-10-30T19:52:30.446+00:00Sorry, I understand this blog is not concerned wit...Sorry, I understand this blog is not concerned with its effect on the individuals it processes. Its about how much money you can get if you leave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-55875443359130948442016-10-30T19:48:54.939+00:002016-10-30T19:48:54.939+00:00I agree with the Service User who said you were as...I agree with the Service User who said you were as crap before TR as after. So many of the Probation Officers I met during my supervision made a bad impression on me. If there was an independent survey conducted anonymously with Service Users where anything negatively they had to say wouldn't impact on recalls or bad reports then a clearer picture would emerge. <br /><br />Lets face it if you have a Service User who criticises what you do, tells you what you are doing and the way you are doing it is not helping them move forward in their life then you are more likely to report that they are more likely to reoffend, which reinforces the unhelpfulness even further. Very many Service Users HAVE to say all is wonderful and that they have learnt so much from Probation not to get further screwed over by Probation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-2099727049881604322016-10-30T19:24:46.427+00:002016-10-30T19:24:46.427+00:00Boris Johnson's sister puts in her two penneth...Boris Johnson's sister puts in her two penneth:<br /><br />"Can I just say in their defence, the only reason they left their son is because he was babysitting their two dogs. They left the dogs as well. I think it's absolutely fine.' <br />Explaining the circumstances, Ms Johnson added: 'We were both invited to the Sunday Times Cheltenham Literary Festival where we did a very jolly event together.'"<br /><br />Anyone up for a safeguarding referral? Neglect & emotional abuse of an 11 year old child. Presumably a few drinky-poos were consumed, so maybe drunk in charge of a child as well? Without the dogs, these are very similar circumstances to the grounds on which children were removed from clients of mine. The children were eventually returned, but only after being in local authority care for several weeks. Maybe it was the lack of dogs that tipped the balance? If you're going to abandon your children, make sure they have a dog to sit.<br /><br />Relevance? Two-tier world, do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do, "we're all in it together", etc etc, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-12867523911539321642016-10-30T16:25:40.268+00:002016-10-30T16:25:40.268+00:00In first instance discuss with your manager and id...In first instance discuss with your manager and identify training need. If not satisfied contact Union health and safety representative and discuss concerns would be my initial advice. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-18268189518367201522016-10-30T16:16:42.274+00:002016-10-30T16:16:42.274+00:00Anyone know anything about the law? Our team made...Anyone know anything about the law? Our team made a complaint about safety in the prison with escalating violence and drugs being used. The email returned was that we have all had personal protection and safety training so we're equipped to deal with all eventualities so it's business as usual. Is this right? I never had this training. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-65358918061499827772016-10-30T14:05:05.081+00:002016-10-30T14:05:05.081+00:00Just read an article in the F.T. regarding Capita ...Just read an article in the F.T. regarding Capita and how it's being forced to consider its contracts that are not cost effective:<br />"Capita, the FTSE 100 outsourcer, is planning to root out contracts where further investment or cost-cutting is needed as part of a sweeping review of its operations and strategy."<br />Wonder which one might be top of their list? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-65489313868467954132016-10-30T13:04:04.352+00:002016-10-30T13:04:04.352+00:00Good news story? Once I am made redundant you will...Good news story? Once I am made redundant you will hear alot more about the reality of TR! Is that good enough for you and please don't strain too much as it will give you piles!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-89073063761801968812016-10-30T10:56:01.760+00:002016-10-30T10:56:01.760+00:00Specialist officers were called in to control a ri...Specialist officers were called in to control a riot at a notorious east Sussex jail after prisoners “went on the rampage” for six hours.<br /><br />Cells and offices were damaged in the disturbance at Saturday at Lewes prison, said Prison Officers Association chairman Mike Rolfe.<br /><br />Mr Rolfe blamed “poor management and severe shortage of staff” for the incident at the prison, which began at 10.30am and continued until 4:30pm.<br /><br />He told the BBC: “There were only four staff on that wing and all four retreated to safety after threats of violence and the prisoners went on the rampage.”<br /><br />Lewes prison was at the centre of a scandal two years ago when a serving officer alleged that severe staff shortages and a drug-smuggling problem meant it “resembled a warzone”.<br /><br />Kim Lennon, who was later dismissed from her position, told The Argus in August 2014 she feared a prisoner or prison officer would be seriously injured due to dangerously low staffing levels.<br /><br />The Ministry of Justice confirmed that a national response unit had to be brought in to control the prisoners during the incident.<br /><br />A Prison Service spokesperson told The Independent: “Specially trained prison staff have resolved an incident involving a small number of prisoners on one wing at HMP Lewes.<br /><br />“We are absolutely clear that prisoners who behave in this way will be punished and could spend significantly longer behind bars.“<br /><br />Earlier this year, The Argus reported an MP had asked for a meeting with the prisons minister to raise concerns about conditions at Lewes Prison.<br /><br />The newspaper alleged that a 19-year-old was found dead in a suspected suicide and that there had been 10 seizures of a drug known as Spice – a type of synthetic cannabis – from prisoners.<br /><br />Syrian Refugee and chef Roudi Chiko was given a year’s sentence at Lewes prison for using a false Canadian passport to travel to the UK in 2012.<br /><br />He told The Guardian he had seen “many terrible things” in Syria but his time in the prison brought him to tears for the first time.<br /><br />“There was a lot of fighting and violence in the prison,” he told the newspaper.<br /><br />“I saw many terrible things in Syria, but the first time I cried was when I was in Lewes prison. It was horrible to see all the violence there."Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-30697160826961002452016-10-30T10:49:23.604+00:002016-10-30T10:49:23.604+00:00Our former justice secretary- character!Our former justice secretary- character!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-9748438820358419512016-10-30T10:08:19.816+00:002016-10-30T10:08:19.816+00:00Really? What a pratt! Not sure what this has to do...Really? What a pratt! Not sure what this has to do with probation but even so!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com