tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post2983424967343117352..comments2024-03-28T16:04:49.918+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: The Cull ContinuesJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-27474030495175840742016-02-24T19:57:28.409+00:002016-02-24T19:57:28.409+00:00and so the news breaks. and so the news breaks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-36198710219150435612016-02-22T18:34:43.372+00:002016-02-22T18:34:43.372+00:00Unfortunately, it doesnt even have to be a 'st...Unfortunately, it doesnt even have to be a 'stones throw from their house' to be a reasonable offer. Cant remember the details offhand - but there is an ETA ruling that upheld that a relocation offer of a job up to (I think)about 50 miles away is reasonable. Sad but true - not all ETA rulings have gone in the employees favour. So please dont be fooled into thinking that a job offer 30 miles away from your current one is dead cert grounds to go for constructive dismissal........ <br />DebAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-24787322124977208592016-02-21T23:48:21.556+00:002016-02-21T23:48:21.556+00:00Wonder when Senior Managers are going to make this...Wonder when Senior Managers are going to make this announcement to all. Not heard this until now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-35064741105485994572016-02-21T22:34:41.276+00:002016-02-21T22:34:41.276+00:00Yes, I met with a solicitor at the time of the spl...Yes, I met with a solicitor at the time of the split and he suggested considering using house insurance to pay legal fees. Worth looking into. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-19216077996086063992016-02-21T22:27:44.867+00:002016-02-21T22:27:44.867+00:00Probation is well and truly finished as a professi...Probation is well and truly finished as a profession when we are reduced to bickering over the scraps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-68874249748717244842016-02-21T22:22:53.361+00:002016-02-21T22:22:53.361+00:00Crisis...... What crisis? Crisis...... What crisis? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-53267417633951178692016-02-21T21:05:50.768+00:002016-02-21T21:05:50.768+00:00Wow, really feeling the solidarity and love here t...Wow, really feeling the solidarity and love here tonight. Must be Monday tomorrow!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-17370100032201215922016-02-21T21:05:34.050+00:002016-02-21T21:05:34.050+00:0018:31 I'm worried about you. Inexperienced as ...18:31 I'm worried about you. Inexperienced as you sound you need to know we are dealing with ex NOMS people who don't have a good track record of getting rid of the right people. You could be in luck ( if you want to go) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-72316182101836662822016-02-21T20:17:10.142+00:002016-02-21T20:17:10.142+00:00We have been bad at dealing with the malingerers a...We have been bad at dealing with the malingerers as all public sectors organisations have been but this doesn't mean that the fit, stable and work horses will be any better off in the new world. As a workhorse I will get old and need time off I expect but so far as a young workhorse I resent the malingerers but we have had impotent HR and SMTs who should have dealt with the passengers and now the survivors will pick up the pieces<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-30986340563434022192016-02-21T19:03:15.248+00:002016-02-21T19:03:15.248+00:00Yes exactly and then the coup de grass your terms ...Yes exactly and then the coup de grass your terms and condition with rates of pay will be redefined as lower pay bands and you'll have a whole lot more for a whole lot less enjoy you asked for it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-30495746904047521972016-02-21T18:53:01.151+00:002016-02-21T18:53:01.151+00:00I hear our nec reps resigned and we have lots of c...I hear our nec reps resigned and we have lots of cash to fund re elections it must be rubbish, as I also hear London branch is in another crisis set to get worse. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-63896696699230582932016-02-21T18:51:48.254+00:002016-02-21T18:51:48.254+00:00and for those that will remain after the cull. You...and for those that will remain after the cull. Your reward is what exactly?<br />More work to do, more shit to deal with, more stress, and before you know what day it is, another round of culls.<br />Well done you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-40391074467749598102016-02-21T18:49:16.950+00:002016-02-21T18:49:16.950+00:00Well said !Well said !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-77897222065336858062016-02-21T18:47:28.490+00:002016-02-21T18:47:28.490+00:00Brilliant review Probation Officer. While on this ...Brilliant review Probation Officer. While on this the forum is no loss really no one was using apart from ex Chairs and some officials who endorsed failed Rendon and what of the true scandal of hios depaerture another officers cover up. Thank crikey some of these people have gone yet the latest chairs are complacent and unable to actually understand what it is they are supposed to be doing. Being a probation officer does not make them able or capable trade unionists. I had heard to save money they want to hang on without elections can this be true? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-73449343605900508982016-02-21T18:40:28.667+00:002016-02-21T18:40:28.667+00:00Yes that's about it and the nbaievty of some o...Yes that's about it and the nbaievty of some of the union defence has been to try and join the enemy before the deals of the split had been done. With sort of leadership what real choices have we faced literally none we are following the incompetent let loose by an NEC who endorse whatever they are told. The Chair just endorse what they are told so there we are. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-22095715238976237082016-02-21T18:35:57.953+00:002016-02-21T18:35:57.953+00:00Employment Tribunal someone let NAPO know that'...Employment Tribunal someone let NAPO know that's what they are supposed to do in the case of sackings. By the way dust off your house insurance legal fees may be covered a better use to you than union dues right now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-8329932712632719722016-02-21T18:33:55.486+00:002016-02-21T18:33:55.486+00:00The chairs and top table must have made that decis...The chairs and top table must have made that decision. Bet it was a silence matter at the NEC. Problem is they cannot complain that people moan about a site that's loaded in censorship and a leadership unable to listen to its members. Sadly the membership have always elected the wrong leadership. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-29501843384608702722016-02-21T18:31:20.682+00:002016-02-21T18:31:20.682+00:00I love a cull. All those idiots thinking there so ...I love a cull. All those idiots thinking there so smart causing mischief in teams and offices are now vulnerable to the axe. Bet they wont be strutting around the office on Monday morning!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-75602798236887691252016-02-21T18:16:55.209+00:002016-02-21T18:16:55.209+00:00In the only not for profit CRC, a couple of weeks ...In the only not for profit CRC, a couple of weeks ago, a senior manager announced that there would be redundancies and temp contracts would not continue. We know that the caseloads are not what was expected whilst the NPS are managing low risk PPOs and medium risk cases which the POs in the CRCs previously managed.The allocation process is fundamentally flawed, resulting in a payment mechanism which may result in the big players handing the contracts back as there is clearly no money to be made. This could result in even more chaos. We should be alerting our MPs to the situation and include the wide scale redundancies in press releases. The trade unions and I include Unison in this - (there inactivity in our downfall rarely gets a mention) need to act now as the staff cuts are being announced. Every job loss needs to be publicised.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-68173667380730347502016-02-21T17:49:16.810+00:002016-02-21T17:49:16.810+00:00They are making no redundancies. Every one will be...They are making no redundancies. Every one will be offered a job. If it is not as cushy as they would like (I.e a stones throw from their house) they can decline. But they will not be made redundant. Declining = resigning as they have offered you a job. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-7245103171819249342016-02-21T17:19:05.462+00:002016-02-21T17:19:05.462+00:0016:32 - Well, who needs objective criteria for red...16:32 - Well, who needs objective criteria for redundancy selection with such a hit list and your sad readiness to designate the deserving from the undeserving. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-4138184660270264832016-02-21T17:04:29.863+00:002016-02-21T17:04:29.863+00:00I am afraid spent warnings can be used in addition...I am afraid spent warnings can be used in addition to other criteria. Their use would not be automatically deemed unreasonable in law. It's not fair, it's not justice, but it's allowed in law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-23109771918014389082016-02-21T16:32:18.482+00:002016-02-21T16:32:18.482+00:00Private companies want to make money. Therefore th...Private companies want to make money. Therefore they want performers. I see some positives of their method, considering there are staff who, quite frankly, take the absolute mickey and others who work their arses off with no reward. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-27462465253557732582016-02-21T16:29:52.252+00:002016-02-21T16:29:52.252+00:00Hampshire CRC (purple futures) are not offering re...Hampshire CRC (purple futures) are not offering redundancy. Every member of staff has been matched to a job and therefore if they chose not to take it, they are effectively resigning. Whilst there are not enough senior case manager posts (po posts). Po's are therefore having to apply for their own job but if unsuccessful will be offered a case manager (pso post) with their po salary protected for 3 years. Similar situation wit spos. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-77745472940630191712016-02-21T16:20:44.509+00:002016-02-21T16:20:44.509+00:00legally spent warning can NOT be usedlegally spent warning can NOT be usedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com