tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post2859801218192508265..comments2024-03-28T12:02:49.472+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: How's TTG Doing?Jim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-43431110591540276832016-07-08T23:15:25.563+01:002016-07-08T23:15:25.563+01:00to 18 11, like 1940, the ones I stay in touch with...to 18 11, like 1940, the ones I stay in touch with are no longer supervised, and in my case have not been on probation for over 5 years, in fact since before I retired. Then they become just ordinary citizens with the right to have a friend who may or may not be an active probation officer, as long as their Order has ended. One ex-client has emailed me photos of their baby son (I knew his partner too) and I am invited to their wedding. He has also risen from being unemployed to being a manager in a major construction industry, which he got just before the end of his Order and has worked his way up and I think, maybe, just maybe, I may have been an influence in his achievements.<br /><br />And I'm sorry you seem to have had a hard time. Some POs concentrate more on the offence than the person who committed the offence, and why. Good luck for the future.mlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-25203531653586631352016-07-08T22:52:10.771+01:002016-07-08T22:52:10.771+01:00Joyous though it would be to see NOMS nobs in cour...Joyous though it would be to see NOMS nobs in court...<br /><br />"Crown Immunity: Crown servants<br /><br />Directly employed staff and other public servants (servants or agents of the Crown) are exempt from prosecution for offences under sections 40B, 40C and 40D of the new Prison Act if they contravene the provisions of the Act whilst carrying out their normal, designated work-related duties. This level of authorisation is applicable in circumstances in which it is clear to both management and staff that the act of conveyance or use of the prohibited articles is wholly within the normal duties of the individual concerned."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-12253998891813029342016-07-08T22:01:56.603+01:002016-07-08T22:01:56.603+01:00Won't be the first time 'dead' cases a...Won't be the first time 'dead' cases are counted as 'live' for statistical purposes! Am I being too cynical?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-58264408882825892322016-07-08T22:01:47.349+01:002016-07-08T22:01:47.349+01:00I heard that the Committee got whisked into a pris...I heard that the Committee got whisked into a prison for the hearing...it wasn't in the Palace of Westminster as per usual. Problem was they all still had their mobiles and laptops with them.<br /><br />Can anyone tell me what the maximum sentence is for taking a mobile phone into a prison?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-40744377568126651122016-07-08T20:00:54.050+01:002016-07-08T20:00:54.050+01:00the recent upgrade of Delius is being blamed for t...the recent upgrade of Delius is being blamed for terminated cases raising from the dead!! Printed my caseload & enforcement off today and lots of blasts from the past appear hahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-8343970620342847262016-07-08T19:40:02.177+01:002016-07-08T19:40:02.177+01:00It sounds like yo had a bad experience and observi...It sounds like yo had a bad experience and observing some of my colleagues I can believe it ! But we are not all like that and I like to think I have good relationships with my clients some lasting over 10 years I still get regular calls from my lifers no longer supervised to chat and invite me round to catch upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-90568593361000909222016-07-08T18:11:24.727+01:002016-07-08T18:11:24.727+01:00I didn't think you were allowed contact with c...I didn't think you were allowed contact with clients outside service time?<br /><br />Maybe I just got a bunch of shit people for supervision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-74869812482859282602016-07-08T17:59:50.769+01:002016-07-08T17:59:50.769+01:0010 23 - well if we were an unprofessional abusive ...10 23 - well if we were an unprofessional abusive service before TR, how come so many PO's, including myself, got so many thank you cards from grateful clients, and be told, 'I don't know what I'm going to do without you' on many an occasion. I retired 5 years ago and I still keep in touch with a couple of clients, by text, email and phone, who are leading successful offence free lifestyles. Do not judge everyone the same, there are good and bad in every sector.mlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-31591680403564858332016-07-08T17:46:02.029+01:002016-07-08T17:46:02.029+01:00A bit of friendly advice: if you stopped generalis...A bit of friendly advice: if you stopped generalising your own experiences - as genuine as they may be - and making wild, sweeping statements, you might find that people are more willing to listen to you.Ex-Napo membernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-20857365739275990022016-07-08T17:04:13.127+01:002016-07-08T17:04:13.127+01:00We are in a bad place now and only more harm can c... We are in a bad place now and only more harm can come of it. But the top one percent are making money out of the growing misery, that all that counts in our neoliberal world. We are close behind America and looks what's happening in Dallas today. The political fools have cocked it up good and proper. Social unrest is on its way, Brexit was but a sign of things to come.<br /><br />PapaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-53044178215161710622016-07-08T13:04:43.660+01:002016-07-08T13:04:43.660+01:00And what respect is shown to the Committee by the ...And what respect is shown to the Committee by the Four Horsemen?<br /><br />"Chair: Sorry, Mr Spurr. Could colleagues turn their phones off? Apparently that might make a difference. It would be a shame and a nuisance for Hansard if we don’t have a clear recording of this. I am sure the Ministry of Justice and NOMS will manage without your contact for an hour and a half."<br /><br />As someone said earlier - Arseholes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-55287681498669136392016-07-08T11:57:18.900+01:002016-07-08T11:57:18.900+01:00https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/07/gr...https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/07/greater-manchester-to-get-devolved-criminal-justice-powersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-81199324232840578702016-07-08T10:23:37.280+01:002016-07-08T10:23:37.280+01:00I think you deserve them. You were an unprofession...I think you deserve them. You were an unprofessional abusive service before TR. Now finally a few of you are realising that what you do does not help. You are proficient at tick box excercises, not suppprtive holistic human relationships. Probation as a career should be in tatters, you lost heart and soul a very long tome ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-80889914372385867902016-07-08T10:04:48.709+01:002016-07-08T10:04:48.709+01:00Giga-shambles from Day One! The left hand and the ...Giga-shambles from Day One! The left hand and the right hand in our CRC clearly don't even belong to the same organism, as we have received various contrary emails over the last two weeks regarding third-stage redundancy meetings (originally mooted in January 2016)- everything now put on hold yet again, at the eleventh hour - our 'owners'/managers/failed bankers or whatever they are have only had six months to get the actual figures right.. words fail me - any vague notion of Probation as a career is in tatters. How much worse can it actually get - really?! Useless gits with no idea of the work we do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-78779266943269027392016-07-08T09:20:53.911+01:002016-07-08T09:20:53.911+01:00Con menCon menAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-83755583514543366812016-07-08T09:19:56.027+01:002016-07-08T09:19:56.027+01:00Further proof that you can't polish a turd ! B...Further proof that you can't polish a turd ! But you can " restructure the contracts" when the promised up front investment by the privateers hasn't materialised! Disgusting comment the lot of them Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-18119205201613505812016-07-08T08:14:11.649+01:002016-07-08T08:14:11.649+01:00So was the caseload split done properly or have NP...So was the caseload split done properly or have NPS been snatching cases from CRCs?<br /><br />Spurr: "There is a proper algorithmic piece of work that has to be done for every offender, and we have looked at what our expectations would be against the type of offenders we have, going through that objective process and allocation. We have looked at that in detail over some time, over a lot of cases. We are confident that the reality is not that the Probation Service has determined, through overriding the normal process, that these people should stay because we are worried about the risk. It is not that. The reality is that there is a higher number of people—looking at the offences, there is a higher number of sexual offenders, a higher number of violent offenders and a lower number of people who traditionally would have come out on the medium or low-risk assessment. It is not that we were not alert to that or did not think it might be an issue: we have been very conscious of it and have monitored it very closely."<br /><br />Uh? So we now have an unexpected & sudden high rate of sexual & violent crime than ever before? A significant & fundamental change of offending behaviour that was neither predicted nor accounted for by the highly paid consultants & experts who drew up the TR contracts?<br /><br />And this is why TTG is failing... Because TR is a crock of PR shite. Their lies are finding them out at the expense of everyone else, i.e. loss of employment, loss of professional service provision & loss of public money. Spurr even says they are about to hand even more public money over to the CRCs by way of "compensation" because of the IT fuck-up. They weren't so keen to honour the EVR package for long-serving professionals. Arseholes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-39419567246438706582016-07-08T07:53:33.912+01:002016-07-08T07:53:33.912+01:00Michael Spurr: It was a huge part of this programm...Michael Spurr: It was a huge part of this programme and one that, I think, that had general support. There were lots of parts of this programme that were not generally supported but, in Parliament, and actually professionally, and with our trade union partners, everybody recognised the importance of trying to do something different with this short sentence offender group."<br /><br />Salesman: "Do you see how quickly & effectively the snake oil soothes your ailments? Everyone agrees it is a miraculous cure."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-7089042163756605092016-07-08T07:35:59.674+01:002016-07-08T07:35:59.674+01:00Good stuff, JB. The hearing is a goldmine! Basical...Good stuff, JB. The hearing is a goldmine! Basically, it ain't working.<br /><br />Spurr - "It has been particularly the case for CRCs where volumes are lower than has been anticipated—that has been a change in case mix. There are more violent and sexual offenders being managed by the NPS, and fewer what we would call medium or lower-risk offenders in the system. That means volumes are lower than anticipated and that has impacted on cash flow for the CRCs, but they have begun to put some innovative practice in place."<br /><br />Read "The NPS/CRC caseload split was woefully wrong, the lies are finding us out & the CRCs are pissed off with us."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com