tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post2397911313337879052..comments2024-03-29T14:15:33.681+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Latest From Napo 32Jim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-20714960631243681682014-06-16T02:24:24.148+01:002014-06-16T02:24:24.148+01:0022:32 isn't, and thats what brought 22:47s com...22:32 isn't, and thats what brought 22:47s comment.<br />Educate yourself ffs before trying to do so to others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-50112241062995423722014-06-15T23:22:29.640+01:002014-06-15T23:22:29.640+01:00It is a probation instruction not the probation i...It is a probation instruction not the probation institute that they ate referring to ffs!!!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-951752586976665292014-06-15T22:47:13.872+01:002014-06-15T22:47:13.872+01:00I fear that in a world where market forces are pri...I fear that in a world where market forces are priority and are dictated by supply and demand, the qualification and standards that will be required to obtain a licence to practice may suffer greatly.<br />Thats just my own personal concern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-54688372662049972982014-06-15T22:32:02.523+01:002014-06-15T22:32:02.523+01:00There has been some discussion regarding the Proba...There has been some discussion regarding the Probation Institute and some evidence of unjustified paranoia about what it might be either intended or unintended. Sure it got a £90k MoJ startup bung (apparently no strings attached) and there are things the MoJ won't allow it to do at the moment such as the licence to practice. I think it is best understood as a formal meeting point between those interested in probation in the UK (academics, practitioners, new players etc). It is so far non-political and may provide a useful focal point for those who want to fund research and allow probation practitioners some of the same functions offered by other professional institutes. Membership of the institute is not a substitute for trade union membership and the professional association functions already provided. It does however have the potential to be further infiltrated by those with a political agenda and subverted from within allowing it to be a potentially very useful tool in the fight against TR by simply accessing some other circles of interest whilst maintaining a veneer of respectability. With any luck someone else will pay for your membership. So as many radicals and activists whether academics, practitioners, or other need to get in there and radicalise it. Alternatively ignore it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-55484369860178699182014-06-15T21:19:31.715+01:002014-06-15T21:19:31.715+01:00£9.5m & counting for consultancy fees, £61m &a...£9.5m & counting for consultancy fees, £61m & maybe more to pay off staff - presumably treating those who collaborated with the TR agenda to handsome packages. What's the cost of agency staffing to 'fill the gaps'? How many staff are now sick, limping along or worse? How many staff now feel undermined, mistreated, ignored, de-skilled, discarded?<br /><br />We won't get paid a £30k resettlement fee for losing our jobs, unlike MPs. Thats a few bob more than the mantra of "£46 in your pocket". We can't claim £tens of thousands in expenses.<br /><br />The neolibs, the condems, the bullingdon bullies - all are in full flow now. The true extent of their callousness is yet to come.<br /><br />Why am I still hanging on? In hope of VR? Perhaps. But mainly because many moons ago I made my own poor choices then eventually clambered over the wall, and now feel very reluctant about leaving clients at the mercy of a pot pourri of global jackals, weasels and parasites. It was always a tough enough gig to change your life with the support of a high quality, vocational service.<br /><br />I dread what's to come, but imagine that the meltdown of JSA, ESA, PIP are clear indicators of the shitstorm brewing, The Perfect Storm?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-89549557391029983872014-06-15T16:02:45.880+01:002014-06-15T16:02:45.880+01:00I would agree to a 'minimum' turnout for t...I would agree to a 'minimum' turnout for trade union votes if the same applied to national elections. No strike votes if less than 50% turnout if no Government if less than 50% turnout for national elections. Reasonable enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-13542708059297561772014-06-15T15:30:20.445+01:002014-06-15T15:30:20.445+01:00To anon 13.06 have you confused PI meaning Probati...To anon 13.06 have you confused PI meaning Probation Instruction as in Jims blog above with PI meaning Probation Institute?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-16618975829571557472014-06-15T15:22:17.651+01:002014-06-15T15:22:17.651+01:00Well I'm deeply suspicious, but read what Prof...Well I'm deeply suspicious, but read what Prof Paul Senior says here:-<br /><br />http://probationmatters.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/the-case-for-defence.htmlJim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-56046227734212330782014-06-15T15:21:37.999+01:002014-06-15T15:21:37.999+01:00'...a degree of misunderstanding,' about t...'...a degree of misunderstanding,' about the redundancy scheme. So Napospeak. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-78976393225862688592014-06-15T14:39:50.158+01:002014-06-15T14:39:50.158+01:00ROFL!!
Almost forgot how good laughing felt. Thank...ROFL!!<br />Almost forgot how good laughing felt. Thankyou.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-18049641902096742012014-06-15T14:19:28.962+01:002014-06-15T14:19:28.962+01:00I'm wondering if this is the first step in get...I'm wondering if this is the first step in getting all those badgers that out smarted the government in the cull behind bars?<br /><br /> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2658318/How-deal-rioting-prisoners-make-sure-not-explode-rampaging-rage-Get-guinea-pigs-course.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490<br /><br />Sorry for being off topic and flippant, but I just got an image of probation offices in this new world full of little furry animals with a G4S brand mark on their rump to enable staff to placate difficult clients.<br />Tools of the job?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-10937111633247847932014-06-15T13:51:03.549+01:002014-06-15T13:51:03.549+01:00I am in favour of a professional register in princ...I am in favour of a professional register in principle, because this would sink TR once and for all. If the privateers can't just employ anyone they find on the street (or anyone sent to them to work for free under the Work Progamme), they can't make a profit from a business where staff costs are a huge proportion of the overheads.<br /><br />But precisely because it would sink TR, either the Government will never let it happen, or the register will be toothless - which appears the most likely thing at the moment. Exactly what is the point of a voluntary register? It's just a list of names, which is liable to be incomplete and so of little to no use to anyone!<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-76982075736049407772014-06-15T13:06:47.415+01:002014-06-15T13:06:47.415+01:00Any views Jim. I note Napo have referred to the PI...Any views Jim. I note Napo have referred to the PI which is surprising as it is neither an authority nor source of reference for probation staff.<br /><br />From the PI website - outsourcing a professional register which will be further comprised by being dictated by the MoJ and private companies! Now I'm even less convinced there's any point to the PI, and still no statement against privatisation and TR. PI is lucky probation staff are too nice to start a 'boycott the probation institute campaign'.<br /><br />The Probation Institute is inviting proposals for developing a Voluntary Register for Practitioners, ready to be implemented from April 2015. Interested bidders should submit their proposals to admin@probation-institute.org by 31 July 2014.<br /><br />http://www.napo2.org.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=641&start=10#p3165probation officernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-10551243107930495842014-06-15T10:41:42.590+01:002014-06-15T10:41:42.590+01:00Another interesting clip here in the Independent a...Another interesting clip here in the Independent although not as comprehensive as the above, that suggests that the Tories may be focusing on some assault on the unions.<br /><br /> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lib-dems-fall-out-with-coalition-partners-over-vindictive-attack-on-trade-unions-9538053.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-42904003468132107882014-06-15T10:32:59.011+01:002014-06-15T10:32:59.011+01:00Link for above article. Lies or not it is somethin...Link for above article. Lies or not it is something that was raised in several papers around the time of the most recent tube strike ( that didn't happen), and 50% plus vote required from membership before strike action is considered legitimate is something thats featured in political interviews on TV around the same time. <br />It may not happen, but I'm sure it's in the suggestion box.<br /><br /> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/10900142/Tories-plan-new-anti-strike-laws-for-2015-election.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-25065644464564269202014-06-15T09:19:14.712+01:002014-06-15T09:19:14.712+01:00My guess would be the Telegraph. It's blatantl...My guess would be the Telegraph. It's blatantly copied from Conservative Central Office propaganda, but it's not quite rabid, 'reds under the bed' stuff enough for the Daily Mail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-21597771338856542014-06-15T08:31:03.801+01:002014-06-15T08:31:03.801+01:00Which paper is this from please?Which paper is this from please?Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-2981548853491623622014-06-15T07:58:30.551+01:002014-06-15T07:58:30.551+01:00Napo expressed serious concerns about authority to...Napo expressed serious concerns about authority to practice?<br /><br /> Sweeping measures being considered for inclusion in next year's Tory manifesto would put an end to rolling strike campaigns by forcing union bosses to re-ballot their members every three months<br /><br />The Conservatives are drawing up radical anti-strike laws to stop trade unions bringing Britain to a standstill with industrial action.Under existing laws union leaders can call their members out on strike until a dispute is resolved to their satisfaction, with repeated waves of industrial action over issues such as pay or pensions continuing for months or years.However, sweeping measures which are being considered for inclusion in the Tory manifesto for next year’s election would force union bosses to re-ballot their members as often as every three months, putting an end to rolling strike campaigns.A Cabinet source said: “We need to look at this quaint rule which means that unions can hold endless strikes as long as their first walkout comes within 28 days of members backing action.”Changing the law so that a ballot in favour of industrial action elapses after three or six months would give union general secretaries a greater incentive to reach a deal.“It would also force the unions to go back to their members and re-ballot if they wanted to continue with strikes, rather than letting them roll on forever,” the source said.The Conservatives are also considering a law to set a minimum turn-out requirement in any ballot before industrial action could take place.Some unions have launched strikes on the basis of very low numbers of members voting in the ballot authorising industrial action.Tory plans could set a minimum of 50 per cent turn out for such a ballot to provide the necessary legal authority for a strike.A first draft of the Tory manifesto is expected to be delivered to David Cameron later this summer.The proposals follow a call from Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, to outlaw strikes when fewer than 50% of a union’s membership has taken part in the ballot authorising industrial action.Mr Johnson was responding to a strike by transport worker on the London Underground in February, which took place after fewer than half of members voted in a ballot. Ministers are particularly concerned about limiting the disruption caused by teachers' strikes in schools, because of the impact on the ability of parents to go out to work.At present, only a simple majority of union members voting is required to authorise industrial action. Downing Street has said the issue of a new voting threshold was “on the table”.Only members of essential public services, such as the police, armed forces and prison officers are currently prohibited by law from taking strike action.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com