tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post1580131961553771618..comments2024-03-28T23:10:52.046+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Pick of the Week 46Jim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-23975669505032003522018-03-13T06:02:49.551+00:002018-03-13T06:02:49.551+00:00"I don't think probation is dead."
..."I don't think probation is dead."<br /><br />Is an interesting comment - might there be mileage in a Blog post that invites submissions on what is meant by "probation"?<br /><br />My initial suggestion is that it includes applying the skills that became identified as "social work" by about the 1950s, in the UK and USA among other places.<br /><br />The concept cannot die but the practice can.Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-10121935225946042202018-03-11T22:41:06.245+00:002018-03-11T22:41:06.245+00:00Probation is a poorly paid dead end job, NPS and C...Probation is a poorly paid dead end job, NPS and CRC. Bullying managers, bad conditions, scarce promotion or career development, no reward or recognition. It takes new recruits year or two to realise they made the wrong career choice, most quickly move on. For the longer-termers remaining, for many it’s because they’re stuck with probation qualifications and experience that are useless elsewhere. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-71406353730624368472018-03-11T21:07:49.517+00:002018-03-11T21:07:49.517+00:00Only today did I discover that there is a hierarch...Only today did I discover that there is a hierarchy of 'earworms' i.e. 'Achy-Breaky-Heart' is replaced by 'Never Gonna Give You Up' which in turn is displaced by my personal favourite, the original 'Magic Roundabout' theme tune. This is proven & documented research by the esteemed Dr Cooper Clarke.<br /><br />As for Probation? "Y'all dead to me mo'fkr."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-14726595671107715612018-03-11T20:10:27.933+00:002018-03-11T20:10:27.933+00:006.5 pay rise NHS staff, teachers less workload . A...6.5 pay rise NHS staff, teachers less workload . Already earn thousands more, I have never known such apoorly regarded and treated bunch of workers as probation staff. Why unless you can't get out does anyone stick this job ? The clients hate and don't trust you and the public government employer treat you with contempt .... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-54285137273895056872018-03-11T16:30:39.925+00:002018-03-11T16:30:39.925+00:00“Until now, hostels were staffed by highly skilled...“Until now, hostels were staffed by highly skilled, and well-trained professionals.”<br /><br />Utter shite and too little too late from the unions! Security staff have SIA cards and DBS certificates, it is misleading to call them “unvetted”. Probation only recently began using police-style vetting to buddy up with their police mates. Misleading to call security staff unprofessional when currently many Probation hostels are staffed mainly by PSO’s who have hardly any training and experience. Shortages in staffing on the weekend are met with PO’s doing a bit of sessional work, it’s hardly a complex role. I’m against private firms taking probation work, but TR has already allowed this and minimally trained staff are already present in all frontline probation work, NPS and CRC. Probation hostel managers will make it work, just as they already are.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-40963853334091721682018-03-11T15:20:12.670+00:002018-03-11T15:20:12.670+00:00Basically the Unison press release:-
UNISON has w...Basically the Unison press release:-<br /><br />UNISON has warned today (Monday) that the privatisation of night time supervision in probation hostels is compromising public safety.<br /><br />UNISON believes there are considerable risks involved with the outsourcing of probation hostel staff. It has raised concerns over the calibre, training and vetting of private sector staff who will now be looking after hostel residents requiring close and skilled supervision.<br /><br />Until last month the National Probation Service ran night time supervision in probation hostels. But as a result of the service being privatised, half the night staff have now moved to private companies Sodexo and OCS. They began co-running night supervision last Thursday (1 March).<br /><br />Justice Secretary David Gauke MP confirmed to UNISON last week that the private companies will be allowed to employ unvetted staff for the first two months of the contract.<br /><br />Recent figures from HM Inspectorate of Probation show that more than one in ten of recalls to prison nationally were from probation hostel residents, with 2,962 sent back behind bars for breaching the terms of their prison licence in 2015/2016.<br /><br />The National Probation Service runs 88 hostels in England and Wales, providing over 2,000 residential bed spaces for offenders in the community and housing mainly high-risk residents.<br /><br />Most of the residents in these hostels have served prison sentences murder, violent crimes, or sex, gang or terrorism-related offences. They are sent to hostels after serving a prison sentence as part of their supervision and rehabilitation, because no other type of accommodation is suitable for them.<br /><br />UNISON national officer for police and justice Ben Priestley said: <br /><br />“Probation hostels are meant to add to public safety, not diminish it. Until now, hostels were staffed by highly skilled, and well-trained professionals. Allowing employees who are potentially neither trained nor vetted to look after high risk ex-offenders is placing probation staff, other hostel residents and the communities in which the hostels are located at risk. Hostels look like ordinary houses in ordinary streets so the safeguards required are high. People stay there after prison because they continue to present a high risk of harm to the public and require skilled supervision. With this dangerous experiment, ministers are gambling with public safety.”Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-31458375825217328272018-03-11T14:30:46.414+00:002018-03-11T14:30:46.414+00:00Have to register to read, but its free to do so.
...Have to register to read, but its free to do so.<br /><br />http://touch.policeoracle.com/news/article.cfm?id=97172<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-17570119555678967242018-03-11T13:12:09.726+00:002018-03-11T13:12:09.726+00:00If UPW is run with enough staff, Supervisors, Proj...If UPW is run with enough staff, Supervisors, Project Managers and there are enough places to go then the Public and media would be able to see this as a punitive alternative to prison. This will surely need to happen as the prison estate is way too high in numbers and the "New" GPS system aint going to happen anytime soon as we have seen before. Problem is at the moment nobody seems to bother too much about UPW from higher Management, resulting in too few staff and a blinkered mantra of paying projects or no projects. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-7452112941525959672018-03-11T12:10:35.602+00:002018-03-11T12:10:35.602+00:00So many offenders being sent away from UPW because...So many offenders being sent away from UPW because there is nothing for them to do. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-85682045091422465642018-03-11T11:05:26.436+00:002018-03-11T11:05:26.436+00:00Smh @ anon 8:47:
“How will the substantive PO'...Smh @ anon 8:47:<br /><br />“How will the substantive PO's relationship with their offenders be maintained whilst they're away” <br /><br />As if the NPS cares about that! I’m sure ‘your offenders’ will cope without you!<br /><br />“and what impact will that have in managing any risk posed?”<br /><br />Stop overrating yourself. Probation has limited impact on why people stop offending.<br /><br />“How will they know which local services to link on with in the new area as well as build links with other local organizations i.e. community mental health, drugs services, local police?”<br /><br />Try google!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-44514653034092723302018-03-11T10:53:17.005+00:002018-03-11T10:53:17.005+00:00“support the XXXX XXXX LDU Cluster”
Why the blood...“support the XXXX XXXX LDU Cluster”<br /><br />Why the bloody X’s you idiot? This is the problem with probation staff. You can’t even properly comment on a blog without withholding details and protecting your employers. <br /><br />It’s so bloody hard to transfer offices in NPS for some staff this will be an opportunity to work closer to home.<br /><br />More evidence of recruitment problems because nobody is thick enough to join the shitty NPS, and those already there are leaving hand over fist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-33634916007903093872018-03-11T08:47:52.229+00:002018-03-11T08:47:52.229+00:00Due to an immediate and critical resourcing need, ...Due to an immediate and critical resourcing need, substantive Probation Officers are invited to volunteer and support the XXXX XXXX LDU Cluster via periods of detached duty. <br /><br />Looks like they will pay for overnight accommodation and evening meal but no extra pay. Talk of doing one or two days a week and keeping your current caseload the rest of the week or going full time for a few months then reverting back to old post once the "immediate and critical resourcing need" is over. <br /><br />How is this an effective use of already overstretched staff? How will the substantive PO's relationship with their offenders be maintained whilst they're away and what impact will that have in managing any risk posed? How will they know which local services to link on with in the new area as well as build links with other local organizations i.e. community mental health, drugs services, local police? <br /><br />All this away from home and family for NO EXTRA PAY. I don't know what NPS are thinking. <br /><br />Does anyone have any more info that could help explain what is going on? I really hope I'm missing something here. <br /><br />And let's not forget, this immediate and critical resourcing need created by TR. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com