tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post1454274956786785908..comments2024-03-28T17:27:56.016+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Dedicated to Kevins EverywhereJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-68475863571733152212014-10-17T14:55:04.817+01:002014-10-17T14:55:04.817+01:00Who are the winning bidders? I know St Giles are r...Who are the winning bidders? I know St Giles are recruitingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-49412002380772690082014-10-15T06:34:56.443+01:002014-10-15T06:34:56.443+01:00The same day they get the fairy dust that turns mi...The same day they get the fairy dust that turns mice into mentors and the magic beans that provides charities to signpost the offender population to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-60555196609079530102014-10-15T05:47:44.844+01:002014-10-15T05:47:44.844+01:00Oh good, I'm glad that Chris 'I see no cri...Oh good, I'm glad that Chris 'I see no crisis' Grayling's one-size-fits-all, mentors-for-everyone solution to re-offending has been picked up by the bidders. I was worried that he'd been too subtle in his constant repetition of the idea.<br /><br />Have they said when they expect their first delivery of magic wands (for the provision of jobs and houses)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-6749436697319798622014-10-15T02:43:25.692+01:002014-10-15T02:43:25.692+01:00anon 19.13 - we didn't think it up as we went!...anon 19.13 - we didn't think it up as we went!, I started 20 yrs ago,and it was so organised and thorough - you couldn't have a high risk offender, or resettlement case for 12 months, or lifer for 2 yrs. There were excellent staff sex offender courses -standard or extended, and then you had to shadow an experienced PO; you'd interview a PSR DV case with a trained specialist PO; attend Court training for 7 days. Detailed contact notes were handwritten- typed by admin. Some oldies might remember Pt A's, B's and C's; A- background précis, B - quarterly supervision plan, C -contacts. Info was easy to access on file. We made reg prison visits, wrote them reg letters, stayed in touch with families, did preventative work in community,sat on neighbourhood action panels, visited youth clubs to discuss our role,had monthly court liaison meetings in teams;gave charities lists of vulnerable families at Christmas and delivered pressies; applied for money from befriending fund; transported clients to meetings or activities we'd arranged. shopped with them to ensure they bought what was needed; took and collected families at NEPACS caravans. PSR's were checked by other PO's before sending, often with amendments until perfect. (I have been known to cry with frustration when I thought I knew best but though I say it myself, I became a damn good officer.) And there's more -we'd do home visits for every PSR, to check accuracy; and they would require 2 interviews, to take details,and one to check it with them after. When training, we got Probation handbooks about processes/ policies which guided me through whole of my training. We were trained to assist in running groupwork programmes, and we made frequent home visits, often impromptu. We checked accuracy of given addresses, and supervision appointments were usually from half an hour up to 2 hours; we worked with people in hostels, alongside hostel worker; used flipcharts to encourage offenders to address behaviour and supervised volunteers who'd befriend and support more vulnerable offenders.We had Nat Standards so drilled into us I could chant them. And, we had to know every Crim Justice or Social Services Act, We had the Social Services handbook, and I could quote every Sch 1 offence, some very strange. We worked with yp's from age of 14 -demanding though often petty offending, until pilot in 1997 for YOS. We worked with parents and schools and would attend their meetings. Case loads were from 30 to 50, but we were still expected to produce about 3 PSR's a week, And take clients to first groupwork programme, sit with them through introduction, and attend at end, to celebrate success. But that was all before computers. And targets were not rammed down our throats. We didn't have to obey computers, but we did develop initiative through our hands- on managers. And it WAS very satisfying, and I know what you mean, we had more lee way. Just thought I would give you a pic of days long gone, of 'advise, assist and befriend'., when you'd pop in on someone who was giving you cause for concern, on way home (health and safety wasn't high on agenda those days) but on the whole, we were respected. (I once got card and chocs from client's partner.The card just said -' thank you for listening'- I felt quite weepy, as she was not the client, I just took time to enable her to get her head together) You know exactly what I mean Jim, as you sit sobbing with nostalgia. -aaah - the good old days.. who'd a thought it now..(the retired PO)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-62534605456282115982014-10-15T01:20:51.222+01:002014-10-15T01:20:51.222+01:00Khan will accept it, as he has accepted the whole ...Khan will accept it, as he has accepted the whole TR concept. Brennan won't upset her Minister. It will be pushed through regardless, as with anything and everything this half-arsed bunch are allowed to play with. Want to capture some votes? Give the electorate a jingoistic victory (Scottish referendum was easier on the bodycount than Falklands) and a cash 'windfall' (help yourself to your own pension pot) and you can do whatever you wish!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-73770178605605664412014-10-15T00:13:35.135+01:002014-10-15T00:13:35.135+01:00The winning bidders are already recruiting. Two pe...The winning bidders are already recruiting. Two people I know have been offered jobs. It is common knowledge in some areas especially where third sector providers have been told and started expanding their mentoring staff. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-66119894009361722082014-10-14T23:25:16.579+01:002014-10-14T23:25:16.579+01:00i think Anon 23.06 is old CG himself...shades of H...i think Anon 23.06 is old CG himself...shades of Hitler in his bunker having to do everything himself, even the propaganda! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-69233719531084443472014-10-14T23:20:32.856+01:002014-10-14T23:20:32.856+01:00Anon 23:06 how do you know who the winning bidders...Anon 23:06 how do you know who the winning bidders are slready?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-77670317384973108732014-10-14T23:06:53.800+01:002014-10-14T23:06:53.800+01:00The winners of the bids already know they've w...The winners of the bids already know they've won. They're already hiring staff. The timetables are not changing due to JR possibility. The MOJ is not at all concerned by that. Timetables had already changed due to external factors. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-41212752312776147002014-10-14T22:57:16.383+01:002014-10-14T22:57:16.383+01:00It's getting riskier by the minute . I am apal...It's getting riskier by the minute . I am apalled by That Man's lack of concern for staff and public safety and his disregard for our client group. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-92062590294321224872014-10-14T22:48:18.336+01:002014-10-14T22:48:18.336+01:00There are no winners here. I predict tears across ...There are no winners here. I predict tears across the piece. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-43836163164329133032014-10-14T22:46:04.513+01:002014-10-14T22:46:04.513+01:00Sign off Christmas Day!! Grayling dressed as Santa...Sign off Christmas Day!! Grayling dressed as Santa coming down each bidders chimney with a CRC to stuff in their stocking. This tragedy is getting funnier by the minute. What a bunch of shysters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-81152545918860499982014-10-14T22:40:02.756+01:002014-10-14T22:40:02.756+01:00NAPO take note , this is what happens when the mem...NAPO take note , this is what happens when the membership gets it's MOJO back ! <br />Grayling is running scared and any threat to bring the share sale forward from the "end of 2014" must be for a reason.<br />We won't know if it is because of the JR plan but there is some coincidence if not.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-68233881832623032702014-10-14T22:39:40.155+01:002014-10-14T22:39:40.155+01:00Will go on twitter Will go on twitter Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-54634583123230602632014-10-14T22:35:29.815+01:002014-10-14T22:35:29.815+01:00This just on twitter from Dean Rogers...@deanroger...This just on twitter from Dean Rogers...@deanrogers25: @NapoMcr think confusion arising from rumour of slip in preferred bidder naming. Was due 22/10 now Nov. Bidders nervous. Signoff c23DecAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-19605540041809969312014-10-14T22:17:21.173+01:002014-10-14T22:17:21.173+01:00Interesting to see whether Brennan accepts that th...Interesting to see whether Brennan accepts that these expidited timescales are not dangerous. And what will Kahn say in the House and in the media? This is political skullduggery of the most extreme kind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-90001251818105604972014-10-14T21:32:52.072+01:002014-10-14T21:32:52.072+01:00When not trying to be an arse, Mr Brand is actuall...When not trying to be an arse, Mr Brand is actually quite a conservative (with a small c) and principled individual. If you can get him on board then this would be quite a feather in your cap!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-35744487587946468712014-10-14T21:29:45.487+01:002014-10-14T21:29:45.487+01:00I just hope that when NAPO launch their JR they ma...I just hope that when NAPO launch their JR they make sure it gets plenty of Press attention. Tanya, take note!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-3665623504688330562014-10-14T21:28:26.824+01:002014-10-14T21:28:26.824+01:00Our Probation Service is due to be sold in 5 weeks...Our Probation Service is due to be sold in 5 weeks yesterday. Providers have been told to mobilise in 1 week, will be told in 2 weeks who has won the contract but will not be allowed to make it public. On 17 Nov it will then be for e.g. Sodexo Probation. On 1 Feb they will take over sole responsibility and from that date they have until April 2016 to implement TOM. They have obviously reacted to the JR and have moved the contracts forward before any provider is ready. The MOJ's lawyers can ask to expedite the JR as a spoiling exercise and the lapse between the 2 hearings can be very short. The only person who has actually handled a JR in Napo has told me all this, so knows what he's talking about. We need to get everyone who can to give evidence asap and the lawyers have about one week to get this JR in. There is no message from Napo but they need to let the members know and we need to keep the pressure up. <br /><br />I have been thinking about different ways of publicising this now and we need to tweet to everyone, keep retweeting this info (as noted above, Harry has given us the facts in tweets) and does anyone know anyone famous to get them behind us? I thought of Russell Brand, Stephen Fry and will continue to try and get in touch constantly. This kind of behaviour will not stop us but we need to impress on Napo the urgency. <br />Joanna Hughesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-43273861898332187192014-10-14T21:28:16.972+01:002014-10-14T21:28:16.972+01:00I have a feeling that the staff will be of a great...I have a feeling that the staff will be of a greater problem than the damage caused by the offenders. There will not be a dodgy email, unscrupulous written instruction or mendacious act that will not get faxed to the local press!! Once the new owners have handed back the contracts I very much doubt there will be a queue of new buyers.<br /><br />Either way we win :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-87798907562287309512014-10-14T21:19:14.630+01:002014-10-14T21:19:14.630+01:00I meant fully op- April '16!I meant fully op- April '16!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-33265229673194394912014-10-14T21:15:32.892+01:002014-10-14T21:15:32.892+01:00Fully op in name only - we haven't had the imp...Fully op in name only - we haven't had the impact of the TTG changes yet, let alone the shambles that will follow when all and sundry turn up on the doorstep and expect a 'service'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-32552433946290288612014-10-14T21:14:24.013+01:002014-10-14T21:14:24.013+01:00I presume you mean Ch 4's Simon I? He is extre...I presume you mean Ch 4's Simon I? He is extremely busy but he does get back to you - He has phoned me several times in last week, wanting evidence. I think he will listen to all evidence, selecting what he needs, whether field team, prison or wherever. I will send him an email, and so could you - do you have his address? Keep squealing - spesh to him!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-48540728731125840452014-10-14T21:13:18.350+01:002014-10-14T21:13:18.350+01:00Worryingly, the bidders presumably think they can ...Worryingly, the bidders presumably think they can still make money, and with the track record of civil service procurement - particularly the contract clowns in the MoJ - who can blame them?<br /><br />Of course, any profit will come with a huge reputational damage, so what price the good PR of taking a good look and deciding, nah, cheers anyway Crisis Chris, we'll leave it? Still the best option in my book...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-77773897111288129292014-10-14T21:06:55.765+01:002014-10-14T21:06:55.765+01:00have you seen the most recent comments on Probatio...have you seen the most recent comments on Probation Twitter today from Eve Chester, AGM endorsing JR ?- I clicked onto the NAPO/org/uk/ blogs-agm endorses the JR strategy (in her tweet,) and there is a report/thank you from Ian,saying loads of evidence from PO's, passed on to lawyers. **With Harry's more sobering announcement 11 min ago, as I typed the above, signed over Nov, semi-op Feb, fully op April.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com