tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post1205751337880473114..comments2024-03-29T14:15:33.681+00:00Comments on On Probation Blog: Incompetence, Deception, Lies and QuestionsJim Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-71556793097409893692015-09-02T00:27:24.532+01:002015-09-02T00:27:24.532+01:002359 THANK YOU ! I can never reconcile how litera...2359 THANK YOU ! I can never reconcile how literally readers take this blog. Of course I have absolutely no truck with practice in the late 80 through the 90s Some idea of social model social intervention confidence building and day centre occupational support work including integrated baseline services. Many of us rejected the old Home office ideals and welcomed the CQSW as a way to integrate all the best of social reform by choice. The problem is that POs are their own worst enemy. Over complicating reinventing continual quest for the grail of the answer. Not once holding dear what many currently do now. I mean at the point of abandoning at the time practice for something new. We saw the programmes revolution destroy case management and lone case work. Priestly and McGuire rubbish. IT may work for some but we lost eclecticism for single shot beliefs. An industry born out of new language. Their on here with desistence . What they really mean is stop. Is it that POs just use overly complicated language to sound clever. In relation to the changing out of already good work practice. I have seen too many new brand managers on their way up looking to make change for the sake of wrecking a stable office. Well they did it really well this time. We have to take some responsibility for that. Compliance , discipline, regulation, maintenance and complicit attitude to do what we are told with open arms. Complicit neglect of what we already did was already the general best just wildly under resourced. Now the privateers are well cashed up and we are never going to be resourced to deliver anything that actually works. Except counting and figure fixing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-9370130545878960552015-09-01T23:50:24.456+01:002015-09-01T23:50:24.456+01:00because 23:55, it was and is. You may need to eith...because 23:55, it was and is. You may need to either leave or start revising your perspective, desistance theories are about to throw your comfortable us and them, punishment and enforcement little bubble out of the ball park. <br />It wouldn't hurt to remind, or perhaps even find out, that it was many of those 'old' probation officers that invented the job you have now, all of it..oh and what has been done over the past 15 or so years is not actually showing up as that effective,prisons full, discriminatory practice on the rise, no solidarity so easy for the takeover... great job Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-6712062214873481912015-09-01T22:27:02.114+01:002015-09-01T22:27:02.114+01:00Of course not.Of course not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-39336140199091425362015-09-01T19:49:17.231+01:002015-09-01T19:49:17.231+01:00Good idea Anon 20:28 I'll ponder on it in one ...Good idea Anon 20:28 I'll ponder on it in one of my quiet moments - should be fairly easy with the search facility :) Jim Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00258147767051200157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-51459972847818346812015-09-01T13:59:36.884+01:002015-09-01T13:59:36.884+01:00Has there been any clarity on the email Ian Lawren...Has there been any clarity on the email Ian Lawrence sent out about over 55sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-49182201601813885282015-09-01T06:43:52.804+01:002015-09-01T06:43:52.804+01:00Huge respect and hugs to netnipper!Huge respect and hugs to netnipper!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-91360103146721431182015-09-01T00:08:51.231+01:002015-09-01T00:08:51.231+01:0023:51 - how does stating that public sector jobs, ...23:51 - how does stating that public sector jobs, you know, the jobs Brits don't want to do, or the other catchphrase 'there are lots of myths about immigration', embody borderline racism?. Anti British racism, maybe - given that the majority of colleagues who have cut and run aren't eastern European or African. Our jobs are being re-defined. Just like traffic wardens and big issue sellers. It's happening. Celebrate Diversity!. Doesn't taste nice but eat it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-12022514385359117872015-09-01T00:07:15.792+01:002015-09-01T00:07:15.792+01:00"tried to defend his dyspraxia"
I am ve..."tried to defend his dyspraxia"<br /><br />I am very sorry if I gave that appearance -<br /><br />Reflecting on a post that I began: -<br /><br />" OFF TOPIC for probation nerds only - look away if you want to read about Sodexo and the severance shenanigans.<br /><br />One of the reason's probation is in the current mess is because of a tendency for folk to focus mostly on the most newsworthy event of the moment ....... "<br /><br />I began another post immediately after beginning: -<br /><br />" postscript - <br /><br />More for nerds - Sodexo and severance is not mentioned. "<br /><br />and whilst acknowledging difficulties of being a po and social worker with dyslexia and dyspraxia (They often go together, sometimes in combination with other specific learning disabilities) I wrote a little about benefits such conditions can give that I realised only after others pointed them out to me.<br /><br />My main point of posting <br /><br />- albeit at the peak of the shameful Sodexo severance debacle - which sadly some seem surprised to realise is actually happening, despite numbers of blogs and commentaries anticipating such bad behaviour since early 2013 - <br /><br />was because - I had a hope that some readers who will now be supervising unrecognised dyspraxic and dyslexic people, might be prompted to reflect & help them be assessed thereby saving misery and crime.<br /><br /><br />I was - using myself as an example - I did not begin to suspect either condition until I was fifty years old - but then realised it explained things about my behaviours that I had not understood since criticisms I attracted and remember from when I was at infant school.<br /><br /><br /><br />I obviously failed - and so am attempting to highlight the issue again.<br /><br />Maybe another older person will explain to those with little real understanding of probation/family court & social work from before the mid 80s ways in which, although the job was different, it was nonetheless constantly busy and very arduous for many workers.<br /><br />I doubt that it has ever been as demanding as now though when additionally for many there is a much greater level of simultaneous uncertainty than is usual for a large group of workers. Also now there are seemingly more senior managers, Civil Servants & Ministers at the MOJ/NOMs with malevolent attitudes towards caseworkers and support staff than in my earliest days.<br /><br />I knew of two young. in the job probation officers, who were dyspraxic but due to difficulties having the condition understood by their employer left the job within 5 years of starting in the late 1990s & early 2000s., and it is possible that there are colleagues among you are trying to manage such conditions on top of the other uncertainties which most are facing.Andrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-8708242177167856042015-08-31T23:59:12.577+01:002015-08-31T23:59:12.577+01:00Excuse typos in last comment!Excuse typos in last comment!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-63274014937653659222015-08-31T23:55:57.164+01:002015-08-31T23:55:57.164+01:00Ok so the 2 cases is tongue in cheek but, serious ...Ok so the 2 cases is tongue in cheek but, serious question, how you know what is being done know is any more effective than the practice 20 years ago because being absolutely honest I remain to be convinced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-85757565705919565102015-08-31T23:52:11.849+01:002015-08-31T23:52:11.849+01:0022:04 I'm interested, how long have you worked...22:04 I'm interested, how long have you worked in probation? I'll be honest, when I joined in early 2000s the focus was on enforcement and I couldn't understand the 'old' probation officers with their social work views. Over the years a lot of what they had said began making more and more sense to me. So even if you don't get it now, it might not be a good idea to dismiss it altogether. Plus, it's bloody bad manners. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-62843591301390102732015-08-31T23:51:58.662+01:002015-08-31T23:51:58.662+01:00A few days ago we had borderline racism when someo...A few days ago we had borderline racism when someone referred to migrants being employed in sodexo CRCs as cheaper labour once the current cull is over. 22.04 is now targeting the older officers. Jim, boot out 22.04!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-86456809942731128922015-08-31T23:47:00.716+01:002015-08-31T23:47:00.716+01:00Jim, expel 21.58 and 20.19Jim, expel 21.58 and 20.19Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-33856265758902590662015-08-31T22:04:23.168+01:002015-08-31T22:04:23.168+01:00old age retired and the weary seem to clog the blo...old age retired and the weary seem to clog the blog with how pleasant a land it used to be. In a world pre IT and with rosie coloured retrospective views of all the good they did on 2 cases a week with a few part Bs and Cs to do and hand out bus fares and money requests. Days gone by eh ? Just does not compare today go somewhere else out of date as this dreary walk in the past . Get a job flower arranging perhaps. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-14886353209272382482015-08-31T21:58:46.127+01:002015-08-31T21:58:46.127+01:00hahaha ru a napo monitor gotten lost 2035 hahaha ...hahaha ru a napo monitor gotten lost 2035 hahaha idiot !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-73830529448925657862015-08-31T21:57:45.803+01:002015-08-31T21:57:45.803+01:0020:38 the comments section on this blog have alway...20:38 the comments section on this blog have always gone off topic because it gives people an opportunity to raise other relevant issues that others may not yet know about. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-29509564952794941992015-08-31T21:23:09.557+01:002015-08-31T21:23:09.557+01:00@21:08I 'm no linguist, but did you just call ...@21:08I 'm no linguist, but did you just call him Mr Hat?? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-11807784098689044312015-08-31T21:15:01.135+01:002015-08-31T21:15:01.135+01:00Hey Andrew, I've missed you. Your posts are we...Hey Andrew, I've missed you. Your posts are welcomed, it's good to consider wider and associated goings on, sometimes I have time to look into them, sometimes not. Sadly, some of the views on here are held by people who have a very different, and not uncommonly narrower perspective. When the old days are spoken of they seem not to want to learn or draw inspiration, their way or no way it seems...sadly. and it's not an age thing either !!!! Thanks for all you have done, do and tried...much appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-50368371360824787902015-08-31T21:08:07.337+01:002015-08-31T21:08:07.337+01:00M. Hatton has rattled some cages - chapeau, monsie...M. Hatton has rattled some cages - chapeau, monsieur. Vive la difference!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-15946795042155398162015-08-31T20:57:58.905+01:002015-08-31T20:57:58.905+01:00WE never banished Andrew or anyone else for that m...WE never banished Andrew or anyone else for that matter. If off topic bamboozles you and makes the voices return, perhaps the blogosphere isn't for you. Welcome Andrew. Tony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-46656661937017507532015-08-31T20:38:28.500+01:002015-08-31T20:38:28.500+01:00Do you promise to stay on topic Hatton and not dev...Do you promise to stay on topic Hatton and not deviate from the topic of discussion if we allow you back in? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-20571658890162931432015-08-31T20:35:40.651+01:002015-08-31T20:35:40.651+01:00Shut up 20.19. Jim boot 20.19 outShut up 20.19. Jim boot 20.19 outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-91126399167684617402015-08-31T20:28:53.439+01:002015-08-31T20:28:53.439+01:00Jim, could you do a collection of netnipper commen...Jim, could you do a collection of netnipper comments. No-one else writes with such clarity. If I ever need a psr written on me I want it written by netnipper. Where is he/she ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-49439387253108497102015-08-31T20:19:45.621+01:002015-08-31T20:19:45.621+01:00I hope not and 18 18 have you not got something el...I hope not and 18 18 have you not got something else to do . I am sure the guy needs to take a back seat and let us not notice he might have gone. I don't mind either way just helpful to be reminded to think about the topic in hand . Bless. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8578343158425987632.post-33709647721087764132015-08-31T20:15:42.021+01:002015-08-31T20:15:42.021+01:00Do not fret for meDo not fret for meAndrew_S_Hattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115192522317353139noreply@blogger.com