Monday, 26 January 2026

The Discussion Goes On 5

If Wales Is the blueprint, God help us when England follows, it’s genuinely head-in-hands stuff. The scale of denial on display needs saying out loud. Let’s not pretend otherwise. Wales and England are already operating from the same script, driven by the same senior culture, quietly agreeing the direction of travel behind closed doors and then rolling it out to staff with a familiar message: JFDI, make it work.

The plan itself is pure managerial theatre. It responds to inspection failings with process rather than honesty. Instead of tackling workload limits or making the system credible, we get more dashboards, more audits, more templates, and more “embedded expectations”. It assumes a service that simply does not exist: properly staffed, experienced, well-paid, and capable of absorbing endless new demands from prisons. What it actually does is provide cover for those at the top, while pushing the pressure further down onto a diminished frontline.

If we add the Sentencing Act to the mix, we are told this will supposedly help by strengthening community sentences. What it actually does is dump more work into the system with no additional resources to manage it. The much-trumpeted £700 million is not investment in people at all; it is overwhelmingly for electronic tagging. Surveillance replaces supervision. Technology replaces people. The service is not being strengthened; it is being automated.

At the same time, staff are left hanging on pay. The union has been talking about a pay rise for over a year. We were told something would be announced “this week”. The week is over and we have nothing. No figures. No clarity. Just more silence. Instead, we get propaganda and recruitment campaigns celebrating “extraordinary” work, as if heroics under impossible conditions are something to be applauded rather than urgently fixed. These campaigns expose how far the service has drifted and set up new recruits for failure. Extraordinary effort, goodwill, and a pat on the back for being a “hidden hero” has become a substitute for proper resourcing.

The reality on the ground is captured far more honestly in Guest Blog 107 and the Open Letter, which describe what still remains unanswered after serious assaults on staff. The response of metal detectors, body-cams, and self-defence kits, not proper security, not systemic change, not meaningful protection. Staff are left to manage themselves while being told this is “progress”. And if you really want to understand how far we’ve fallen, go back a decade and read Guest Blog 26: Advise, Assist and Befriend, in the first comment. Reading it now is painful. It describes a service rooted in relationships, humanity, and professional trust, one that believed in rehabilitation and social justice, not just enforcement and compliance. Compare that vision with where we are now: tagging, AI-assisted case recording, endless escalation, and dashboards. It beggars belief how far we have drifted and how little appetite there is at the top to admit it.

The most galling part is the cowardice of leadership. Senior figures enjoy the power of their little regional empires, but when it comes to standing up to ministers or the centre, they fold. They mouth concern, nod sympathetically, and then fall back into line. They do not stand for the service. They manage its decline while unions look the other way. People are tired of saying this again and again. Frontline staff have been shouting for years. The uncomfortable truth is that unless someone at the top is finally prepared to step out of line, to actually challenge government rather than absorb pressure and pass it on, nothing will change. It will just be more of the same. And we all know it.

Anon

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What’s happening is systematic hollowing-out. This model is not designed to improve probation. It is designed to make failure administratively survivable at the centre while pushing risk, blame and workload further down the line. Dashboards replace judgement. Templates replace thinking. Technology replaces people. When harm follows, it is “complex”, “unforeseeable”, and never owned.

We are being asked to deliver a service that no longer exists: safely, relationally, and professionally, without the time, staffing, pay, protection or authority required to do it. Workload is unmanageable by design. Pay is delayed by choice. Safety is addressed with pilots and optics, not action. Recruitment propaganda fills the gaps left by attrition rather than fixing the reasons people leave.

This isn’t confusion or poor implementation. It is deliberate. A system engineered to function on compliance, goodwill and silence until it breaks, then quietly replaces the people who broke with cheaper ones. Probation hasn’t lost its way. It’s been taken there. And unless those responsible stop hiding behind process and start owning the damage, this will not improve. It will only continue exactly as intended.

Anon

68 comments:

  1. "Surveillance replaces supervision. Technology replaces people. The service is not being strengthened; it is being automated".

    Finally, somebody has realised what's really going on. Well done.
    sox

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    1. Well done sue but no revelation is it unless you been hiding 10 years the references to it are spelled out on this blog by many contributors.

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  2. It’ll all be okay when we get lockers !!

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    1. … and 1000 more trainees !

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    2. ... and stab vests, and parva spray, and bodycams, and new contracts with death-in-service benefits removed

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    3. And many staff complaining of being over 100% happy to do overtime for prison cases yet interviewing in works time. So overworked they cannot see the harm they're doing. Madness work to rule is needed.

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  3. Yes, lockers, bodycams and another wave of trainees will tick the box nicely. They’re visible, auditable, and completely miss the point.

    Meanwhile the real issues are ignored: impossible caseloads, collapsing experience, and pay that’s delayed, diluted or quietly offset while staff are told to be grateful. This is substitution, not reform -kit instead of people, volume instead of skill, optics instead of honesty.

    You can’t gadget your way out of a broken service.

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    1. But you *can* line the pockets of shareholder chums, fill the media with bullshit PR & talk tough... is this what happens when US Vice President Vance goes drinking with Angela Rayner & David Lammy?

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002qghl

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  4. Where is our pay rise? Have been waiting nearly a year. This isn't good enough and I think we should down tools until we get an immediate offer and back pay that is owed.

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  5. Choices, choices. Option 1. Focus to the exclusion of all else on Pay and workloads. The immediate crisis yes, and deserving of action and amplification of the issue. If ONLY on those then that pre-supposes that a major increase in pay will solve the recruitment and retention problem, thus the caseload problem, and that in the exisiting governmance and management arrangements, all will be well. So, stick with the status quo and argue for improved pay, as our glorious leaders are getting everything else right and THEY are working on the assumption that if they just keep going, it will all eventually resolve.
    Option 2. Of course, work hard and urgently on getting improved pay and conditions. No brainer. At the same time, sieze any and all opportunity to get a conversation going with those in positions of power and influence to rethink, ground up, what the Probation Service is for. And how best it can contribute to better justice -both criminal and social. Sue, and her buds in Wales, is doing what there is precious little of elsewhere, pushing back against the assumption that a better Probation Service is not possible. Some of it is hopelessly naive and idealistic but at least it is being said.

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    1. No no they deliberately run the service pay and recruitment down. Any relief by way of tech comes in it's welcomed they don't want to recruit staff unless replacing . The idea the employers want what you think is beyond me .

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  6. 4 percent pay offer. Absolutely disgusting and another year of below inflation pay

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    1. When did you get this? I've not seen any communication about the pay offer yet?

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    2. NAPO have sent a letter recommending rejection.

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    3. Haven't received anything yet - if it is 4% though it's another kick in the teeth! Delay on top of delay for 4% - it's insulting

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  7. Well can we see the wording then?

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  8. Over a year has passed since the Probation Trade Unions submitted a joint pay claim for 2025 -2027, and despite meetings with Government Ministers who failed to deliver their promise to produce a pay offer by Christmas and after several complaints, pay negotiations between senior Probation Management and the unions resumed last week after a totally inexcusable delay

    Following the conclusion of these, a formal pay offer was received which was immediately considered by your Probation Negotiating committee. Napo is a
    Member led union and the role of the PNC as a nationally elected body is to arrive at a recommendation based on the merits of the employers offer. Having done so the PNC voted unanimously to advise our members to reject the offer. The employer proposes 4per cent increase to all pay points and bands and to the London Weighting, prison supplement and Standby

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  9. 4 %, absolute joke! I will definitely be voting against accepting this.

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  10. So after more than a year of deliberate delay, broken ministerial promises, and endless rhetoric about probation “doing the heavy lifting”, this is what lands: 4%.

    Not 12%. Not pay restoration. Not even inflation.
    Four per cent - after inflation has already eaten our wages, after workloads exploded, after risk escalated, after staff were told repeatedly that probation was critical to keeping prisons from collapse.

    NAPO’s unanimous rejection tells you everything you need to know. This isn’t a marginal disagreement. It’s a collective judgement that the offer is fundamentally unacceptable.

    Let’s be clear about what this actually is:

    • A real-terms pay cut, following years of inferior awards
    • A confirmation that CBF was always intended to be rolled into and used to cap any future uplift
    • A pay offer that fails to match inflation, let alone restore losses
    • A settlement that leaves probation less competitive than prisons, local government and the wider Civil Service
    • An insult to experienced staff who received no CBF progression and carried the service anyway
    • And a political choice, not a financial necessity

    The most damning line in the letter is this: “We are not in the room with those who make the final decisions.”
    Exactly. Probation staff are expected to absorb risk, violence, scrutiny and public blame while Treasury and Cabinet Office quietly decide we are not worth paying.

    Meanwhile:
    • £700m is found for tagging
    • Billions are found for prisons
    • Private contractors remain funded despite being unfit for purpose
    • £100m sits underspent in probation
    • And staff at the bottom of Band 2 will fall below minimum wage again

    This isn’t incompetence. It’s contempt.

    The service is being hollowed out, automated, deskilled and run on goodwill — and when staff finally ask to be paid properly, they’re told this is the best that can be done.

    It isn’t.

    This offer doesn’t stabilise probation. It accelerates its collapse. And anyone surprised by the anger that follows hasn’t been listening for the past decade.

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  11. A year’s delay, broken promises, and endless praise for “exceptional effort” and the outcome is 4%.
    That isn’t recognition. It’s a pay cut dressed up as an offer.

    Money can be found for prisons, tagging and private contractors, but not for the staff holding the system together. Even now, some will drop below minimum wage next year. That tells you exactly where probation sits in the hierarchy.

    NAPO's unanimous rejection says this clearly: this isn’t bad luck or fiscal reality it’s a political choice. And it confirms what many already know: probation is expected to absorb risk, blame and damage on the cheap.

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  12. Well don’t say I didn’t say it would be derisory and that the unions would once again let us down. Even the benefit claimants have done better than us out of the budget! That’s it done retirement paperwork in tomorrow reinvest the pension and lump sum and get a job that will reduce my current commitments to this shady government.

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  13. Absolutely shocking. 4% is all we’re worth.

    https://www.napo.org.uk/news/probation-pay-offer-2025-2026-finally-received-napo-recommend-rejection

    Some reasons why you are being asked to reject the offer

    It’s an insult

    Following a disrespectful delay of over a year since the union claim was submitted, a 4% rise after years of inferior pay rises for Probation staff is an insult. The offer fails to come anywhere near to our original claim of 12% and doesn’t reflect the fact that Government Ministers have praised the huge efforts of Probation Staff in terms of their efforts to deliver Government initiatives, for example on numerous schemes to relieve prison overcrowding, in the midst of an ongoing workload crisis. It’s time that our pay should reflect that fact, and that our pay award should match the words of praise from Ministers and HMPPS senior managers.

    Inadequate funding and failure to recognise the rise in the cost of living suffered by our members

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    1. Are we now in all out strike territory?

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    2. I sincerely hope so!

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    3. It says in the announcement that 'You are not being asked to vote on industrial action and your decision to accept or reject the pay offer will be personal to yourself. If the offer is rejected, then Napo is mandated to organise a separate statutory postal ballot where you will be asked to agree to take action and action short of strike action. '

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  14. 4% is an absolutely disgusting offer. I will be voting against this in my ballot. Is there anything else I can do to express my disdain towards this despicable offer? I was thinking of writing to my MP, but that is likely fruitless and will result in a generic response from the minister responsible no doubt. I will be incredibly frustrated if colleagues across the service accept this horrendous offer.

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    1. Boycott ftr56 briefings and other all staff calls

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  15. 4% is disgusting. Why wait 12 months only to offer us the exact same amount as prison were offered almost immediately?

    It demonstrates quite clearly where they see us in terms of priorities and value. All the waffle about Probation doing the heavy lifting and the extra stuff they asked from us, then give us such an insulting offer.

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  16. Also no mention of next years offer, or do we have to wait another 12 months for that?!!

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    1. Well yes clearly it's next year's pay. What should be sought is inflation levelling claim. Not a percentage over 12. We need to look back a few years to pay at cost of living then stage above inflation pay claim over 3 years with additional percentage should inflation jump. Eg year 1 3.5 plus 0.5 if inflation jump. Year 2 3.5 plus 1same jump protection
      Year 3 3.5 plus 1 jump value and then re negotiate fresh at current inflation. It's slower climb to recover the 10% loss but it's easier to climb back a pay rise without a massive 5 or 7 % rejection. We should also be staging a pay point increase over 6 months and a bigger percentage for the lower paid for once as the gap is massive for the higher salaries.

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  17. The fact POMs and VLOs are on the same band as COMs is ridiculous. POMs come out of prison, stop getting in the way of prison officers and do days work for a change.

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    1. Why do some people think POMs sit around all day feeding each other grapes? I worked for years in the community as a COM before taking up the probation POM role due to it being less of a commute. Both jobs are just as busy and difficult as each other. If you are concerned about POMs not doing a “days work” I would suggest you raise it with their line manager instead of moaning on here. The POMs I work with work incredibly hard, like I’m sure we all do across the service. I would love further clarification about POMs getting in the way of prison officers. What does this mean? Anyway, back to my 18 OASYS that are due before the end of January. Perhaps I have so may due to just sitting around all day, or perhaps it’s due to a population crisis? Who knows.

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    2. 18 OASys that have already been written either by court staff or COMs. Also, 8 weeks to get them done….How about you get cracking with those reports for the PB, oh no wait you don’t do them anymore. There is a reason OMIC is getting reviewed, best get them grapes finished soon and get your big boy/girl pants and pick a community office or get that laminated sick note squared away ;)

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    3. What's ridiculous about vlo pay on the same scale it was job tested against criteria it came out at the graded level. Clearly pom comes think they are everything yet appear to me to know nothing. Pay parity is a good deal. From that position to seek skill based equitable pay you renegotiate a higher rate. Of course Napo have the incompetent lead so he won't raise his cup of tea let alone a pay regrade for POS poms Dom whatever.

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    4. No they are 18 OASYS with no previous COM involvement and no PSRs as a lot come through court without one. I will happily take up another role in the community as I like to change roles every few years anyway but thank you for the advice!

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    5. How can you say Poms don’t know anything when they are registered probation officers…

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    6. There are no COM roles advertised in my PDU so clearly you’re all fully staffed and should be working as a green PDU?

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    7. 18 Oasys with no PSR and over 10 months still to serve….. come on hard working POM it’s not Lammy your talking to here.

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  18. James Mc Ewan CEO of HMPPS told everyone on all staff call the pay offer is a good one. Clearly has no idea of strength of anger of 15 years of pay cuts below inflation!

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    1. I know, my expectations were actually hopeful for that very short window! Clearly no idea of the history and strength of feeling.

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  19. Lammy hikes JAC chair's pay by 30%

    By Monidipa Fouzder13 January 2026
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    The Ministry of Justice is raising the pay rate for the chair of the Judicial Appointments Commission by 30% ‘to better reflect the demands of the role’, justice secretary David Lammy has confirmed in a letter to MPs. Did not do much for us

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    1. JAC remuneration: "Lammy said he had secured agreement from the Treasury to increase the daily pay from £577 to £750 ‘to better reflect the demands of the role’. Recruitment consultants have also been engaged."
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      Also: 14 July 2023
      Posted by Neil Rose

      Judges: Quality of appointments falling

      The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) has accepted a recommendation that judges receive a pay rise of 7% this year to combat recruitment problems, twice what the government said it could afford.

      Judicial pay rises:

      Year Pay award
      2025/26 4%
      2024/25 6%
      2023/24 7%
      2022/23 3%

      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/687e2c6a8adf4250705c96a0/judicial-salaries-2025-2026.pdf

      7% of £110k = £7,700

      4% of £35k = £1,400
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      https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/economic-evidence-to-the-pay-review-bodies-2026-27-pay-round/economic-evidence-to-the-pay-review-bodies-2026-27-pay-round

      "The government has continued to make progress on delivering more timely pay awards, having delivered both the 2025-26 pay awards and remitted the 2026-27 pay round two months earlier than the previous year."
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      Someone earlier summed it up in one word:

      CONTEMPT.

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    2. I saw lammy shooting his chops off about reparations of billions to an ethnic community. Of course it's blister but shows he is an idiot. Of course he won't do anything for us as we are so low on the importance scale.

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  20. Let’s be clear about where we actually are, because the anger is justified but the process still matters.

    No one is voting on strike yet. This ballot is about accepting or rejecting the offer. If members reject it, Napo is then legally required to run a separate statutory ballot on industrial action (including action short of strike). That’s not weakness or delay, that’s the law.

    What does matter right now is unity. The employer will happily watch us turn on each other – POMs vs COMs, prison vs community – because division does their job for them. This offer didn’t land because of colleagues in other roles. It landed because probation, as a whole, has been deprioritised for 15 years.

    If you want to express your opposition:
       •   Vote to reject.
       •   Engage with the union consultation.
       •   Challenge management narratives that call this a “good offer”.
       •   Stop donating goodwill.

    Arguing sideways only weakens the one bit of leverage we still have: collective rejection.

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    1. Vote on pay offer rejected does not equate to a union being obliged to run a strike ballot. The NEC may well consider a range of responses. We have seen the general secretary in the last pay vote dump on members without any guidance to reject the crap offer. That way he evaded a ballot as members were so fed up they took the appalling offer. The old chestnut best that can be achieved . Having done nothing.

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  21. It really saddens me comments about POMs and VLOs - attacking each other should not ever be the case. I resonate with the comments by the other POM and I am a current POM and have a lot of respect for all in any role. The POM role for me has been incredibly challenging, emotive, pressured and dangerous at times. I will never undermine the work of my community colleagues, I see my role to work as hard as I can with people in prison to help them understand their risk and make the changes prior to release. I also see it as invaluable to monitor ongoing risk, escalate where necessary and do as much as I can prior to anyone’s release. Until we have worked in each others please don’t judge. We have always had Probation Officers in prison

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    1. Yea well when the poms attacked the vlos on pay we saw blue on blue. The naivety of pom not recognising different jobs get different pay and some jobs actually do warrant the same grade. Since that time I don't think much for pom qualified. Also the jobs while different have some pay grade distinctions that equal the pay level like emotional stress. Protective inputs and advocacy for victims. Enforcement and protection. When we are properly respected it might come back to pom.

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    2. I think the argument about VLO being paid the same band as a PO a valid one . It’s not saying that they don’t deserve the Banding that was given, but given that PO’ s have to work hard to gain a qualification and keep a registration now (whereas all a VLO needs is maths and English) , along with working directly with offenders , the level of responsibility to safeguard and rehabilitate, the demands of the role, the level of reports written, open to SFO’s , also the emotional impact of hearing details of multiple victims / offences - the PO role - whether COM / POM deserves to be paid at a higher banding than the VLO role. Also, PSO role given the same demands should be paid at band 4 . Again this is not taking away the important work VLO do- but just highlight the fact that a JE is now needed for PO and PSO roles

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  22. So when the system decides a role is important, money appears quickly and without drama. JAC chairs get a 30% uplift “to reflect the demands of the role”. Judges receive 7%, then 6%, then 7% again, explicitly to protect recruitment and quality. Treasury objections melt away when the work is seen as valuable and the risk of failure is politically uncomfortable.

    Probation doesn’t get that treatment. After a year of delay, we’re offered 4% — below inflation — while being told it’s “good value” and should be welcomed. That isn’t economics. It’s hierarchy. Some roles are protected. Others are expected to absorb decline quietly.

    And this is exactly why the blue-on-blue arguments are a distraction. POMs, COMs, VLOs didn’t design this system or set these pay priorities. The contempt runs upwards, not sideways. Division just makes it easier to keep doing this to us again next year.

    The message is simple and consistent: probation work is praised rhetorically, but priced as expendable. Until that contradiction is confronted collectively, the pattern won’t change and the figures already tell us everything we need to know.

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    1. I like your views and respect what your saying I don't easily agree with this though. The above pom posted directed attack at vlos pay as ridiculous. This is stupidity at its best. Pay jealousy is what your really indicating . We now have a leveling down on all po related work. So we need to find exactly the parts they need and slow that down until it's paid for in negotiations .

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  23. 4% no one will fight it

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    1. That’s exactly what they’re banking on. Not that 4% is fair, but that people are tired, divided, and convinced resistance is pointless. That’s how below-inflation pay becomes normalised.

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    2. And to lose more pay that can’t be afforded to strike with likely no better outcome in the short term, if ever.

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  24. Surely the agreed 3 year ‘lock in below inflation’ deal had the increments costed out in advance. Why are they now part of any rise?
    2025/26 probation pay offer confirmed. Part 1
    Following the announcement that pay negotiations with trade unions resumed last week, we can confirm the details of our pay offer for probation staff.
    What is the offer
    The 2025/26 pay offer for all probation staff includes:
    a headline uplift for all probation staff of 4%
    a 4% increase to all cash allowances including London weighting
    an average increase of 3.44% in pay progression paid in June last year to all eligible colleagues
    With the 4% headline uplift and the increases to allowances plus pay progression, the total increase in the probation pay bill would be 6.3%, which is higher than many other public sector workforces.
    If agreed, the headline uplift will be backdated to April 2025 and you would then receive your uplifted and backdated pay as soon as possible, likely to be April 2026.
    What does this mean for me
    The 4% headline uplift will be in addition to progression payments made in June. Through progression, some colleagues have received increases of up to 4.8%, with an average increase across the 10 pay ranges of 3.44%.
    This offer is among the biggest increases agreed across the public sector, including the Prison Service Pay Review body's recommendations for prison officers. It goes further than the Civil Service guidance that limits headline awards plus pay progression to 3.25%.
    Taking into account pay progression paid in June 2025, and the additional headline uplift confirmed today, then the value of the increase to pay for probation as a whole is 6.3%.
    You can find more detail on the impact of this offer on different grades in the pay tables below, including actual amounts and increased pay points. For example, a Band 4 probation officer now at pay point 2 of their pay grade would expect to receive an increase of £1,470 for their 2025/2026 pay award, in addition to any progression pay already received.
    Weekly drop-in sessions will begin this Wednesday, 28 January, where you can hear more about this offer and ask questions (see below for sign up details).

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  25. Part 2: What happens next 
    Each recognised trade union now invites its members to vote on the pay offer in a ballot.
    To vote in the ballot and have your voice heard, you must be a member of one of the three recognised trade unions (Napo, Unison or GMB-SCOOP). You can find out more about trade unions, your rights and how to join on the Probation Hub.  
    We recognise the time it has taken to get to this point, and we are keen to not delay payments any further.
    If the offer is accepted by the majority of each trade union membership, it will be backdated from April 2025 and paid as soon as possible, which is likely to be April 2026.
    What you can do
    You need to be a member of a recognised trade union to vote, and it is important you feel you can make a confident, informed judgement on what you are voting for. It is also important that everyone understands the pay offer and what it means for them.
    You can attend upcoming staff events and use our resources to understand what the pay offer means for you.
    Learn what the offer means for you
    In the coming days and weeks, we encourage you to:
    hear directly from leaders about the proposed offer at weekly drop-in sessions, starting this week with Kim Thornden Edwards and Ian Barrow at 11am on Wednesday 28 January (please use this link to join the call: Probation All Staff Call - Update on pay - Wednesday 28 January_)
    look out for upcoming session dates on the intranet and in probation news so you can mark the dates your calendar
    review the full pay scale tables provided below
    use our pay calculator, available later this week, to check your specific circumstances
    take a look at more resources such as pay journeys in coming weeks to see what the offer means for different roles
    Reflection on the deal from Kim Thornden-Edwards:
    “In announcing the 2025/26 pay offer, I firstly want to acknowledge the time it has taken and thank you for your patience and understanding. I am also acutely aware that this prolonged process happened during a time of significant change and increased pressures on you.
    Your unwavering commitment to delivering vital services, supporting people on probation, and keeping communities safe represents the very best of public service.
    Through concerted efforts and constructive negotiations, we have secured a headline pay award of 4% for 2025/26. In practice, the increase will be far more for many colleagues, following the pay progression paid in June 2025.
    This is one of the most generous offers made in public sector pay, which goes well beyond the government's own guidance on how much public sector pay can increase this year.
    We now want to help you to work out precisely what this award means for you. Today we’ve outlined the headline numbers, but this is just the start of our engagement with you on the offer. Your input matters. Please don’t miss the chance to understand the offer to make the right decision for you.”
    Pay tables
    This offer proposes an increase of 4% to the following allowances:

    London weighting would increase from £4,250 to £4,420 per annum
    Prison Supplement would increase from £737 to £766 per annum
    Standby would increase from £46.07 to £47.91

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    1. If this from the grinder over at Napo the new legislation requires employers to consult widely and that means members of a non recognised union in greater consultative process. Someone had better start organising because there won't be any chance of a strike or whisper of it as Napo don't like spending money on members views.

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  26. This is exactly the sleight of hand people are calling out.

    CBF progression was already costed, agreed and paid in June under the existing three-year deal. It was not new money, not a concession, and not part of this year’s negotiation. Folding it back in now to inflate the headline figure is double-counting.

    The only new money on the table for 2025/26 is the 4% headline uplift. Everything else being cited – the “average 6.3%”, the “generosity”, the comparison with other sectors – relies on re-labelling progression that staff had already earned and already received.

    That’s why the offer feels dishonest. If the deal were genuinely 6.3%, it would be paid as 6.3% to everyone. It isn’t. For anyone at the top of their band, or anyone who didn’t receive progression, this is a flat 4% after a year-long delay, backdated and paid a year late.

    Calling this one of the “most generous offers in the public sector” doesn’t make it so. It’s an accounting exercise designed to mask a below-inflation rise by recycling money that was never in dispute. And staff are right to be angry about it.

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  27. This isn’t spin, it’s gaslighting. The only new money in this deal is the 4% headline uplift. Everything else being claimed – the “average 3.44%”, the “total 6.3%”, the talk of generosity is money already agreed, already costed and already paid last June under a previous deal. Recycling that progression to inflate the headline is double-counting. If this were really a 6.3% pay rise, everyone would be getting 6.3%. They aren’t. For anyone at the top of their band, this is just 4% after a year-long delay, below inflation and paid late. Staff aren’t angry because they don’t understand the maths, they’re angry because they do.

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  28. As a COM, I cannot wait to go into work tomorrow to read emails from POMs and more laughable the PRT, requesting i do all the CRS referrals, HDC home visits, ROTL home visits, safeguarding checks, DTR’s, AP referrals, licence (don’t forget EPF) and CAS3 referrals for the bloke (PoP) that is literally sat in a cell 50 meters away from them. You never see a POM coming back into a COM role…. I wonder why?

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    1. Everyone knows the POM role is a step back. A rest. None ever come back to being COMs. No pressures, few responsibilities, no carrying risk. Even the parole board aren’t interested in what they have to say about the bloke who has lived in the cell 50 meters away from them for years. The COM role should attract a substantial premium payment, or a lot of the current COM role should be pushed back on POMs. All ROTL work for a start! Years ago, we went to programmes for a rest, now we go to prison to die. And we should all have a much better pay offer. 4% is an utter insult. I hope they lose all their experienced COMs in droves over this. I am disgusted.

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    2. As a COM I’ve always found the level of tasks the COM does unfair . The person who should know the offender more is the POM , but the COM has to do most of everything. It’s like they assume we have the time to manage persons in the prison and the community . It’s makes me angry that the POM hardly does anything for Parole

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  29. Please don't get drawn into argument about pim/ com roles that is what the Government is seeking to do: decide and rule. Probation was a special case however this basically a below inflation pay increase. I am sick and tired of writing reports on indiduals either on benefits completing low skill jobs for more monet than me after 25 years service. This is a once in a generation opportunity to stand up and fight for improve terms and conditions as well as improving health and safety through appropriate security in all offices.However in order to facilitate this change we need to strike in a way that it inflicts pain on the criminal justice system by increasing delays in sentencing through PsRs not being available in the timeframe and also refusing to implement new early release programmes. This is the only way we will get a quick solution. Staff members need to understand strike means having a direct effect on you employer. None of this clearing your desk the day before. Various Govs of either ilk have manipulated power and control to put us in the position we are. It is time to turn the table......?

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    1. Pay jealousy mentioned while a better hourly rate is great the client won't be drenched in you massive pension subsidies. Annual leave bank holidays possibly. Full sick pay and eye test paid. Touch of the forgetful ungrateful here.

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  30. Devide and rule

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  31. We also should be settling next year at the same time
    10 % for the 2 years

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  32. I’ll be voting against it

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  33. Gas there been any comms yet from Unison ? They are very quiet !

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