Sunday 6 May 2018

Napo at Work in the South West 13

Subject: Joint announcement from the Probation Trades Unions and Working Links

JTU 14-18
To all Napo Members in BGSW, DDC and Wales CRCs

Dear Colleague,

The recognised Trade Unions across the three Working Links CRCs met with senior management in London last week. This meeting was separate from the ongoing dispute with the employer and was an exploratory discussion around pay and reward and the relevant financial issues.

It was agreed that the parties would meet again at the earliest opportunity, and that the following joint statement would be issued by the employer and Unions today. More news will be issued by your union representatives as soon as it becomes available.

Joint announcement from the Probation Trades Unions and Working Links on behalf of the DDC BGSW and Wales Community Rehabilitation Companies

To: All staff in DDC Wales and BGSW CRC's

The Probation Trades Unions and Senior Working Links Management met last week to explore the prospects for establishing some continuity in talks about pay and reward, contractual incremental progression and the areas which the unions would want to take forward as part of a future pay claim.

It had been previously established that these talks would be independent of the ongoing dispute between the parties.

The employer reported that they are currently involved in talks with the MoJ and explained the work that they are undertaking as a result of the recent findings of the Parliamentary Public Accounts Committee. This has led to some reassessment by all CRC contract holders around future funding streams and their capacity to meet the costing implications of the unions likely pay claims.

It was agreed to establish a series of further meetings at the earliest opportunity where Senior CRC Management as well as the directors of Working Links would meet with an equivalent number of union representatives to exchange information on a range of issues relevant to future pay and reward.

Further announcements will be made as soon as more news becomes available.


Napo, Unison, GMB  

14 comments:

  1. Joint announcement - let's peer through the smoke & into the mirrors...

    - explore the prospects: there's nothing to see
    - independent of the dispute: the dispute is sidelined
    - reassessment around funding streams: we're changing the rules
    - capacity to meet costing implications: there is no capacity
    - series of further meetings: stalling, delaying, obstructing
    - as soon as more news becomes available: there is no more news

    The Message: "you aint gonna get jack, folks"

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    1. Couldn't agree more. Don't see why a joint statement was ever agreed to.

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    2. Probably a lot more to it than that.

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    3. There's always a lot more it...and Napo has always loved keeping its members guessing.

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    4. Its right up there with the 'no redundancy for 37 minutes post-sale' clause, the nationally negotiated EVR that didn't apply to CRCs, or the Probation Institute.

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    5. Was there redundancies ? Where when I missed these. I thought everyone who left agreed to sign on a line and take a pay off and they all volunteered.

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  2. There must come a point when just talking becomes an impediment to progress?

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  3. Well, that statement was certainly helpful.

    Well done NAPO, you show em.

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  4. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end, fingers crossed. Thank the powers that be for Dino and his team on our side.

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    1. Give over: nonsense. The longest running dispute in history is in a quagmire and the latest stuff is a classic non-communication. Napo ain't working.

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    2. Naïve and off the cuff rubbish 17:37 Read the document properly.

      "The employer reported that they are currently involved in talks with the MoJ and explained the work that they are undertaking as a result of the recent findings of the Parliamentary Public Accounts Committee. This has led to some reassessment by all CRC contract holders around future funding streams and their capacity to meet the costing implications of the unions likely pay claims "
      Napo is doing what it must do ask for more pay in line with any Union function. The dispute me well be on going but pay is a matter of all sides to attend to. What the report says is there is no money for pay claims and the MOJ are in talks. What does that really mean Working Links Cant pay staff so what ?

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  5. So will the majority of PO's who left in the last year to go to NPS etc get any back pay? Seriously folks there are virtually no non agency PO's left in working links now. It will take more than a miserly few quid to sort that problem out. Sooner they fold the better. You can't run a service like this on agency staff. No offense but it is bad economically as well as in terms of overall comittment to the service users and employers. Or do I misunderstand the meaning of transformation?

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    1. Can you see WL tracing ex-employees to give them money?

      Sadly the 'joint statement' bears no resemblance to previous slash, parry & riposte of Dino; sounds like another Napo HQ fudge-up. Are we sure HQ aren't in the pocket of Spurr & MoJ? They seem determined to take everything down a cul-de-sac, leaving members in the shit.

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    2. No we cannot be sure if a Napo Spurr MOJ allegiance is a factor but there is no way Dino would be any part of that not a chance he is pro member pro rights pro union full stop.

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